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Legit Sites Imitate Phishy Behavior

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:49:42 AM PDT

It's getting next to impossible to tell the good guys from the bad guys on the Internet. And, as several readers have pointed out recently, it's not just because the scammers are getting better at masquerading as legitimate entities. All too often, the real site seems to be impersonating a phishing scheme impersonating it.


"I recently received a message claiming to be from Consumer Reports," a reader wrote. "It is a 100% perfect duplicate of a phish message to steal my credit card info. It has all the pitfalls that articles on identity theft warn us to look out for and avoid, including warnings in Consumer Reports itself. With the help of SpamCop, I reverse engineered the header and proved that yes, Consumer Reports DID send the message. They have done their bit to make account theft the fastest growing crime in the world."

The reader wrote to Consumer Reports to complain and got a response that essentially said the difference between their message and a spoof is that their suspicious-looking link really does send people to ConsumerReports.org when clicked upon. "Right. Maybe one or two percent of e-mail users would know how to look at the code behind the link to find whether this is a spoof. There are any numbers of tricks that could send users who think they're going to Consumer Reports off to phish mill in Albania. That's why there must be zero tolerance for e-mail clickable links - phishing schemes require them; real e-mail never does."

Another reader sounded off on how fast and loose many sites are about e-mailing passwords that users already know. "I continue to be frustrated and amazed at the number of websites who, when you register, send your password and sometimes your user name as well in a plain text email as 'confirmation' -- as in 'Thanks for registering, you password is xxxxx,'" the reader wrote. "I can't count the number of websites that have done this to me. I'm not talking about system-generated temporary passwords, but passwords that I created myself and have not requested be sent to me. Does no one understand how insecure e-mail is? It almost feels unfair to single out a specific site, but a couple that have done it to me recently include hanes2u.com and the PA State Employees Retirement System (which when creating the account warned me to keep the password safe!). Both agreed to change their procedure when I complained, which will help others in the future, but my passwords were already compromised, and there are still countless other sites doing the same thing. What makes web site designers think that sending out passwords unrequested is a good thing?"

And another reader hit very close to home. "My gripe concerns Computerworld, which I know is your sister publication," the reader wrote. "Or at least I think it's Computerworld, but it might be a Russian mobster for all I know. I received an e-mail saying I'd been 'randomly selected among Computerworld subscribers' to participate in a survey. I'm not nor have I ever been a Computerworld subscriber, but even if I was, the 'secure' link they want me to click on to take the survey didn't even have 'computerworld' in the URL. I'm supposed to click on that? Thanks, but no thanks."

Which good guys are you having trouble telling from the bad guys? Post your comments below or write me at Foster@gripe2ed.com.

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I think you have it backwards[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by LasVegan on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:31:27 AM PDT

I suspect the original e-mail came from them and then the phishers copied it except for changing the URL.

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refuse [ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 08:56:11 AM PDT

Even on emails I get from my normal sites, I refuse to click on the links. Do you like tiffany & co jewelry .including gucci jewelry

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No Click Me[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Krelgar on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:51:31 AM PDT

Even on emails I get from my normal sites, I refuse to click on the links (I am totally paranoid.) I know what their URL is so I just type it in and go to their website and try to navigate to the information given me in the email. If I can't find it, Oh well.

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I think[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:51:00 AM PDT

Following those link will not harm you until you'll allow to do this (e.g. before running ActiveX objects browser will always ask your permission).

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Exterminate It! - my personal security solution

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Re: I think[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by veritek on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:51:52 AM PDT

If a web site contains code that exploits a security flaw in your browser, or if your system settings are set such that it will run anything without asking, then simply visiting the site could infect your computer with whatever nasties the site's owner wants to send.

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Use Firefox[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 23, 2008 at 11:54:24 AM PDT

One more reason to use Firefox.

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Re: Use Firefox[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by veritek on Wed May 28, 2008 at 06:47:50 AM PDT

Of course you should use Firefox. But not because Firefox never has any security flaws. Yes, Firefox is a great browser. It's pretty fast, reasonably secure, and has lots of great plugins. What it is not is an invulnerable program that is immune to hackers, viruses, and malware. Regardless of the web browser you use, you must be careful. Many, many malware attacks require the user to perform some kind of action to get the malware to run on your computer. (Click a link, enter a password in a fake form, run a program named "nekkid_brittany_spearz_pics.jpg.exe", etc.)
No web browser in the world can stop you from doing stupid stuff, or just plan be tricked into doing something foolish. And if you do something like that once to often, you will get burned.

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Eh?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:10:00 AM PDT

I never claimed that Firefox had no security flaws. But it has fewer, more obscure, and quicker-fixed ones.

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Have to agree[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by TonyK on Tue May 20, 2008 at 09:40:44 AM PDT

I don't click on links in e-mails. If I need to go I will sometimes copy the link in to notepad (or another text editor). That strips the underlying link URL information. Then I can copy that and paste it in to the browser.

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You think that's bad?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Thu May 22, 2008 at 03:51:43 PM PDT

My employer, a major bank, recently began using a 3rd party mass mailer called Responsys for its internal communications. This firm has been on my blacklist for years for repeated spam, so imagine my surprise at receiving a series of emails directing me to use embedded links to sign on to our travel and health care providers. The links showed our domain but actually led to Responsys (BIG red flag). As far as I know I am the only one of our 160,000 employees who thinks there's anything wrong with this, although one would think banks should be leading the fight against spam.

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