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Terms of Ridicule

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:10:48 AM PDT

Dilbert is a great comic strip, always good for a laugh. In fact, as one reader points out, there are even a few chuckles in Dilbert.com's Terms of Use.


"Hey, Ed, I know how you love nonsensical, stupid, and impossible EULAs and Terms of Service," the reader wrote. "Well, I've got a priceless one for you, and from a sorta unlikely source. Check out this paragraph:"

"You must be 13 years of age to use the Web Site and if not of majority (18 in most states) your parents must complete your registration and supervise your use."

The reader puzzled over that one a bit. "OK, great, I'm 54. Am I out? Not to mention this is missing two words - 'at least' --that would make sense of this. Just a typo, but if this is a legal and binding agreement, seems as if no one can really use this -- what with being 13, but if not 18 ... but wait, this makes no sense."

Well, maybe it makes sense if you're 13 and living where the age of majority is 12. Otherwise your parents would have to help you, and they would need to be 13 as well, I guess, which seems a little improbable. Anyway, the reader then pointed out another paragraph:

"Content you submit is owned by you and you are responsible for all third party rights and payments. You grant us and other users the right to use and exploit your submissions."

"Honest, to the point, does the job," the reader wrote. "Expectations are set clearly. Scott Adams may have done this intentionally. Of course, he does have minions that do his Web stuff, but these terms certainly could be fodder for a good strip."

Even though I'm not 13, and would therefore be violating the sanctity of this contractual agreement by reading it, I decided to see for myself if there were other interesting provisions besides those the reader had pointed out. Indeed, there are. One I like is that if you suffer any damages or injuries, including death, due to acts or omissions by the Dilbert.com publisher, you agree that the damages you suffered are not irreparable and their liability is limited to $10. But maybe the most intriguing provision of all is this one:

"In addition, your activities on the Web Site and in connection with the Materials will not ... Disparage, tarnish or other harm, in Scott Adams' sole opinion, Scott Adams."

We've seen no-disparaging-us terms before, but I think this is the first one I've seen where the definition of disparagement is left up to the disparagee. But the reader, for one, is by no means trying to disparage Scott Adams. "I love Scott's stuff, and will visit his site no matter that I'm violating the terms. He can bill me."

I also am sure this is not Scott Adams' fault. In fact, I have a theory about who is responsible. I noticed at the top of the Dilbert.com terms page that it says it's "Beta," and the whole thing contains many grammatical mistakes and strange errors. In other words, what we have evidence of here is a remarkable combination of hasty incompetence and unthinking malevolence. So there's only one explanation for iti all -- obviously someone decided that writing the terms for Dilbert.com was a job for the Pointy-Haired Boss himself.

Want to defend Dilbert's honor? OK, then help us find a ToS or EULA that's even worse. Tell us about your nominations by posting your comment below or write Ed Foster at Foster@gripe2ed.com.

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Look no further than here[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:37:53 PM PDT

I can't put a link to this topic on my website nor can I email a link to a friend according to the InfoWorld TOS: "You may not modify the Content or re-publish, re-transmit, or otherwise distribute directly or via links any Content to any third person except for your personal, non-commercial use, as permitted by the license granted above." I just hope I don't get into trouble for re-tranmitting the content of the TOS. :-(

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Ah but you can[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:51:57 PM PDT

It allows for personal use, so aslong as it's personal, say a practical joke or somthing on those lines, then it's perfectly all right.

And incase any one missed it, I'm fairly certian this is intended to be a joke.

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Re; Look no further than here[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Ed Foster on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:07:25 PM PDT

That's a fair comment. But just so folks don't get confused, the InfoWorld ToS is to be found on the InfoWorld version of this blog here. I don't have a ToS here on Gripe2ed.com. -- Ed

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So...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 04:58:33 PM PDT

I suppose posting "Scott Adams is a poopy-head" is right out then? Heheheh...

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Slightly off topic, but still fits pretty well[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by SteveJ1 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 12:58:25 PM PDT

Not exactly a EULA, but another of those lists most folks don't actually read carefully. This was sent by a new hire at my company a few years back, following his New Employee Orientation session, with the subject line "Dilbert is closer than you think!". I have, as you can see, verbally pixellated the company name. *********************** "As the 'new guy' I was expected to go through orientation last week including a review of the "Code of Business Conduct." Imagine my concern when I read the following Dilbert-like quote on page 8 (Conflict of Interest): ***You may not engage in any activity which may influence decisions you make during the course of your work for <insert pointy-headed-company name here>.*** So much for the coin-flipping regime I was about to inaugurate as the basis for all my future decisions!"

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Stopped being funny a while ago[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:27:07 PM PDT

Scott Adams stopped being consistently funny a while ago. He still has his moments (The dual monitor bit came out just as I got a computer similarly equipped), but most of the strip has become somewhat bizarre, political, or just not funny. It's also an aggravating site, when reading from the comics.com web site, Dilbert is one of two strips from which you cannot navigate to the next strip. Peanuts is the other one, but it's still fun even though it is re-running 40+ year-old strips.

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Slight correction[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by mklange on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:32:07 PM PDT

Peanuts lets you get to other strips on comics.com by selecting from the comics.com menu that still appears on peanuts.com, there is no "next" button to take one to the next comics.com in the series. Dilbert, however, doesn't even provide that option, you have to navigate around the dilbert web site to run through the series.

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Worst TOS = Joymax.com[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:12:42 AM PDT

Joymax.com as a independent game developer has the upmost worst TOS to me. Check it out if your a gamer or have played Silkroad Online you will understand why.

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