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More Games Rebate Baiters Play

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2008 at 12:56:43 AM PDT

It's time once again for the umpteenth installment of our rebate bait-and-switch chronicles -- the gimmicks companies use to keep from having to pay off on their rebate offers. As always, readers are finding that vendors have a few new tricks up their sleeves.


"Here's a new twist for me at least on issues with rebates," wrote one reader. "I bought a D-Link cable modem for my son last month with a $20 rebate. Last week I received a rebate check but when I got out my saved rebate forms, I discovered it was only for $10, half what it should have been. I called up the fulfillment house, WebRebates.com, and after being on hold for a while, they agreed I was right. They said I had a choice of them putting a stop-payment on the check I received and they would send a new one, or they would just mail me a check for the other half. Of course I chose the latter -- half a rebate in-hand is better than a promise for a whole rebate later. But how many people would remember or notice that the check was not for the right amount? Most people are just happy to get a check at all."

Another method vendors are increasingly adopting to shortchange customers is to send a rebate card rather than a check. "AT&T recently offered a phone via its website with a $200 rebate," wrote another reader. "The rebate came in the form of not one, but two prepaid 'credit cards' whose value totaled $200, and which expire three months after they were issued. If the rebate came in the form of a check, the recipient could cash it, deposit the $200 and earn interest on it. With the cards, however, AT&T not only gets to keep the interest on the money between the time the cards were issued and they are used, but also gets to keep any money left on the cards when they expire. How many cards will get lost, or forgotten in a wallet or purse? How many will get partially used, and have some amount, even a few cents, left on them? The other gotcha with the cards is that they cannot be reloaded. I've tried to use the cards very carefully, but I have one that has 17 cents left, and the other has $2.36. How do you use a credit card with 17 cents on it? It bugs me that my $200 AT&T rebate is turning out to be a $197.47 rebate, even with my best efforts. And I'd guess that most recipients of the rebate cards will end up with MUCH more cash left on them."

The more the rebate is for, notes one IT director, the more ways the company is likely to find to misplace it. "We bought a fairly expensive network storage device from Netgear that had a very sizable rebate attached to it. Netgear proceeded to misfile the claim about a month later. When we provided copies that everything had been filed correctly, they finally processed it correctly. But wait, that's not the end of it. After a couple more months of waiting and bugging them, we are finally told it will ship. Well, about a week after that made-up date, we ask for a tracking number ... only to be told it has been processed and will be shipping about a month later. Each inquiry seems to result in further excuses. To add insult to injury, if you reply to the e-mail address they provide with their responses, you reach a bot that tells you it does not service requests. Calling them is even more laughable. There is absolutely no way to reach a human at any of the rebate center numbers. Needless to say, they have probably lost all of our future business, not that they had much respect from our IT department to begin with."

Some technology companies demonstrate more innovative thinking in their rebate gimmicks than in their products. "Microsoft and Symantec, to name two, have both used one especially sleazy trick," wrote another reader. "Their official rebate forms are printed on ultra glossy stock which cannot be written on with ball point or fountain pens, and copies of the forms on regular stock are not accepted. The area to be filled in is smaller than a book of matches. In both cases, the forms in question were stickers that had to be peeled from the box to show the rebate application (and all its fine print) on the reverse side. The coating on these forms was not your typical casein gloss -- it was more like bonded cellophane. So, unless one gets a fine tip Sharpie and writes with the patience and precision of an engraver, the form will be illegible. Even assuming one does just that, if time isn't put aside for the ink to dry, the form will smear and become unreadable. In fact, even after the ink has dried, it is easily obliterated by finger contact. The point is that if companies really wanted to deliver on rebates, they could make the process easy to pursue. Instead, the difficulty in securing a rebate is by design."

What tricks have you seen vendors design to keep from paying their rebates? Post your comments about this story below or write Ed Foster at Foster@gripe2ed.com.

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Slick forms[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 08, 2008 at 03:03:37 PM PDT

I've also run across those small, slick rebate forms. So far, the best pen I've found to use on them is a Sharpie Ultra Fine Point Permanent Marker. It produces a thin line and writes on just about anything. After the ink dries I carefully cover the form with a piece of clear adhesive tape to prevent smearing.

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Those Rebate Credit Cards[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 09:57:14 AM PDT

You can buy a PayPal or Amazon.com gift card in any amount (I think there may be a $2.00 minimum on Amazon). As soon as we get one of those gift cards, wether it be rebate or gift, I use it to buy an Amazon gift card for myself in the exact amount of the card. I can usually find something I need on Amazon at SOME point, and then I don't have to worry about loosing the card, ringing up fees for not using it, or having it expire. I just wish I had thought of this before my husband let a BellSouth rebate card die in his wallet.

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Grocery Gift Certs work even better[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 10:27:31 AM PDT

An even better idea is to pick up gift certificates from King Soopers, Safeway, or Albertsons. Or whatever other grocery store is in your area. You can get the exact amount in either certificates (coupons) or gift cards. And you know for sure you will be buying groceries before they expire.

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Just say no[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Rey on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 12:48:20 PM PDT

Is it so hard to understand? This emperor is not wearing any clothes. Issuing a "rebate" is to attract customers in the way a sale does, while keeping most of the money.

The ONLY reason for a rebate is to avoid paying it. If they wanted to make good on the low price they would simply lower the price. The reason they pay a rebate fulfillment house a fat fee is because schemes to avoid making good on rebates save a ton of money over merely lowering the price the same amount.

The percentage range of rebates actually honored is a contract matter negotiated between the rebate issuer and the rebate fulfillment house. Can anyone doubt that rebate fulfillment houses have ample data to show, when they pitch a client a rebate deal, what percentage of buyers will fail to achieve the rebate?  

Around here we just say no to rebates and stores who use them. We search out the web for the best price and buy it. It takes a lot less time than visiting a store, finding a clerk (when possible,) filing for rebates through a thicket of rules, keeping receipts and paperwork, and remembering to follow up when the check doesn't come.

Anyone screwed in a rebate deal has only himself to blame. No one forced you into it.
Rey in Virginia
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I never consider rebates when buying a product[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 14, 2008 at 08:44:58 PM PDT

I never look for a rebate when I am shopping for a product. I make purchases on the basis of what the product is going to cost me out of my own pocket today. Initially I will shop for the best price on the specific type of item. When I find a reliable supplier who has consistently-good prices, I tend to go back to them whenever I need that same type of product.

It's only fair to point out, however, that a few suppliers have very good rebate programs. Costco has what may be the best. The rebate coupon is automatically printed on the bottom of your receipt, even if you weren't aware that there was a rebate.

Generally, all that you have to do is fill in your name and address and mail the coupon to Costco's own rebate center. I've never had to do anything else, such as cut out a UPC bar code. You can also submit your rebate request at their online store, which is even better. My rebate checks have always arrived in a reasonable length of time, and they have been checks, not credit or gift cards.

Note, however, that if you are an executive member of Costco, once a year you get a rebate equal to two percent of your purchases. This is a rebate coupon, not a check, and can only be used toward purchases at Costco.

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Rebate Credit Cards[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 07:39:07 PM PDT

Just use those leftover small amounts to buy gas. Put the card in the pump and it automatically cuts off when the card is emptied.

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Credit cards[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 11:51:32 PM PDT

Two thoughts.  The credit cards with just a few $s are easy to use.  Most retail stores can handle these.  If you have a purchase for say 10$ and you have a card with $.17, just give them that card first.  They will swipe it and then you will owe $9.83.  Just pay the balance.

I have also been told that you can take the card to your bank and deposit them like a check.  Have not done this so not sure if it works.  

I agree with the previous posts, when you get them, dump them ASAP!!!  Buy groceries, or convert to cash.

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small amounts[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 01:55:00 PM PDT

Sprint lets you pay your wireless bill with one of these stored value cards. Just enter the card number and the amount you want to go to your bill - $2.36, 17 cents, or whatever it is. Maybe other wireless carriers offer this feature, too.

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cor-pirate greed creep[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by wawadave on Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 04:45:13 PM PDT

Just more forms of Corporate greed creep and other ways to nickel and dime you till they get it all.
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