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Quicken Users Can't Put Stock in Intuit Reliability

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:00:24 AM PDT

Intuit's never-ending campaign to force customers to upgrade by crippling older versions of its software has reached a new low. Quicken 2005 owners have been receiving "discontinuation" notices that as April 30, 2008, all the program's online functions will be turned off. That's become Intuit's standard M.O., of course, but what makes it worse than ever is how the company has been ignoring complaints that one of those online features - downloading stock quotes -- often gives wildly inaccurate data.


Around this time each year we hear from Quicken (and QuickBooks) customers who've just discovered that a perfectly fine program they bought a few years ago is about to be rendered useless by Intuit under its arbitrary sunset policies. One cosmetic change this time is that Intuit is apparently sunsetting the "sunset" term itself, opting instead to now call its crippleware tactics a "discontinuation" policy instead. So Quicken 2005 - a program that can hardly do anything without phoning home for the latest popup ads Intuit wants to force on its users -- has recently been displaying this "Critical Notice for Quicken 2005 Users":

"As of April 30th, 2008, in accordance with the Quicken discontinuation policy, Online Servers and live technical support will no longer be available for Quicken 2005 users. Immediate Action Required."

This notice has been particularly unpleasing to those who have had problems getting accurate stock quotes via Quicken's online download feature. "Unfortunately, the problem does not appear to resolved by upgrading to the 2008 version," says a reader who first told us early last year about Quicken downloading stock prices incorrectly and Intuit's indifference to the problem. "I got the notice that Quicken 2005 would no longer be able to retain online functionality, so I did upgrade because updating stock quote info is one of the primary reasons I use the software. But it's having virtually the same problem I originally wrote to you about - specifically you go to update stock and mutual fund prices and it's hit or miss whether they update or not. There have been a large number of frustrated users writing about this on the Quicken community forums, so perhaps they are now taking action. However, as a long time user I do think it is wrong to market a product that seems to have become less and less dependable. Worse yet, until now it seems Intuit was unwilling to take the time to listen to their customers and respond to what many of us feel were serious errors with the product."

For some reason, the biggest problems of all involve Canadian stock quotes. "Since June of last year, the Intuit servers have been distributing inaccurate stock quote data to both Mac and PC users of Quicken," wrote a Mac Quicken user. "A large percentage of equities traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange are generally quoted at ten times the actual value. Others are quoted at one-tenth reality. For example, in the download I just did, they quoted Bell Canada (BCE) trading at $385.00. In fact, BCE is trading at $38.50. It's a great way to make one's portfolio grow! Even the Quicken web site consistently misquotes Canadian equities, and has been doing so since June. Intuit's response has been 'please be patient, we're working on it.' Intuit issued a patch for the PC version of Quicken back in the fall, which according to some PC users was problematic, but none has been forthcoming for Quicken for Mac. In fact, a senior contact in Quicken tech support told me that they are NOT working on a patch for Mac users. Instead, they are prioritizing their development resources to work on the next Quicken release. Apparently, they'd rather get a bunch of new customers to buy Quicken 2008 than address serious defects in the current release. That is a recurring theme with this company. It's sad to see how far Quicken has fallen. They were once the leader in personal financial software -- now they can't even deliver accurate, reliable stock quotes."

Another reader explained how the bells and whistles that come with the forced upgrade can cause problems of their own. "I own Quicken 2005, which is expiring. I bought 2008, but the reports I created on previous versions were unusable and would have to be remade. My vision is low and I like the largest screen possible. Every time Quicken upgrades they add more tabs, buttons or features which take up more viewing room on the screen. It would suit me if they just charged for the connection for updates. I took 2008 off and reinstalled 2005. I bought my first Quicken in 1995."

What really bothers some readers is the presumptuousness with which Intuit interferes in their communications with their financial institutions. "In sunsetting my 2005 version of Quicken as of April, Intuit is threatening to disable my ability to download 'financial data from your bank, credit union, credit card, brokerage, 401(k) or mutual fund accounts'," wrote another Quicken 2005 user. "They might as well disable the ability to enter numbers! I can see them sunsetting 2005's ability to connect to Quicken and Intuit services, but third party banks? That means they either sold the program with planned obsolescence or they downloaded a patch that is going to disable a working feature. And it wasn't like they warned at the time of purchase that the software would stop downloading on April 30, 2008. Do I hear the sound of people calling their state attorney general?"

Some Quicken 2005 customers did have warning that this day was going to come sooner or later, because they were among the Quicken 2001 customers who three years ago were forced to upgrade in similar fashion. With both Quicken and QuickBooks crippleware policies, Intuit just keeps getting more aggressive in terms of how many features they shut down and how quickly they force customers to upgrade. Who knows how soon those who buy Quicken 2008 could face the next discontinuation notice?

But the real lesson to be learned here is that "discontinuation" can come from Intuit incompetence and indifference as well as Intuit's intent. Along with the Quicken stock portfolio problems, that point was also brought home by last month's incident where a buggy software update caused QuickBooks for the Mac to erase files. And if I were a Quicken or QuickBooks customers, I'd be pretty concerned about the security and privacy issues raised by Intuit's bugs, not the least of which is the question of just how much of your most important financial information is exposed, and where.

Intuit has always justified its sunset/discontinuation tactics with the absurd claim that it permits the company "to provide reliable high-quality products and services" in the future. But never has it been made more starkly clear that the crippleware policy only encourages Intuit to ignore defects in its software and support, in the belief that customers will be forced to upgrade anyway. Quicken customers who don't learn their lesson this time will therefore likely find that, be it inadvertent or intentional on Intuit's part, the next shutdown of essential features will be coming quicker than ever.

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Very Timely - Just "upgraded" to 2008[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by srynas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:39:04 AM PDT

Everything reported in the post, from my experience, is regrettably accurate. However, since I just recently received the 2008 edition, I don't have too much to report yet.

1. What is surprising to me, as a long-time user, is that useless cosmetic changes should not really have an effect on how well the program operates, yet (from reading the posts) it seems that it does. In response to this degradation of program quality several posters on the Quicken website have actually asked for a "subscription" option so they can retain the superior earlier versions.

2. My pet peeve with Quicken is that the program is riddled with advertising and come-ons. This appears to get worse with each new edition. Intuit's management must consist of snake-oil salesmen who simply don't know when to stop selling. Everything about Quicken is aimed to promote "purchasing" some sort of "service". In the "old" days your program simply did what is was supposed to do, accounting; not sales.

3. In the 2005 version, when making backups, you could select which Quicken file to back-up.  In the new 2008 version this ability was removed. Now you have to open each Quicken file individually in order to save it. (For reports,in the 2002 version, I could directly select a custom date, beginning with the 2005 version, I had to specifically select "custom date", an unnecessary click.) This reduction in functionality is unnecessary and speaks to "enhancements" as simply being churning of the program.

4. Retrieving stock data has been very problematic for the past several months.  I don't know what was going on.  Did Intuit forget to pay its "bills"???????

5. In visiting the Quicken forum, I have been quite surprised at how rude and defensive some of the senior forum members have been. I don't know why.

6. On a positive note, I am glad that Intuit has this forum, all software/retail companies should provide such a forum.  It makes customer support much easier since users can help users.  Recently I bought a new HDTV and could not get the control codes for the DVD player. Had the TV manufacturer provided a forum, I could have probably gotten the control codes without having to call the 800 number and talking to a representative after spending X minutes on hold. I hope that Intuit management actually visits their forum, learns something from the comments left, and takes action to provide a product that meets the consumers expectations.

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Why do you keep going back?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:57:49 AM PDT

Is the program *THAT* good that you would put up with such clown antics by the parent company?  This isn't a personal attack.  I am really curious.  The war stories from Quicken users completely turned me off to Quicken or any product from Intuit...then here you are upgrading twice to keep the app.

What gives?


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Alternatives???[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:24:27 AM PDT

I am a long time user of Quicke, currently on my third version - 2007. I have tried MS Money and MoneyDance. The thing about Quicken is that when it works - it downloads all of my Credit Card, Bank Account, and Brokerage Account data automatically. It had 'learned' to categorize most of my transactions automatically. I said, "when it works." That said, all of my Citibank accounts have been failing for the last few months due to 'server error.' I have to manually download and import QFX files to get those to update. If anyone knows of an alternative, I would love to get away from Intuit as soon as possible.

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Comfort of the Known Frying Pan[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by srynas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:30:50 AM PDT

Its a case of being being used to the program.  Also I have not heard of a compelling reason to switch to MS Money.

When I finally get around to switching to LINUX, I will change my accounting program.  In the meantime, I will publicly point out the flaws of Quicken and hope that the management at Quicken will finally sober-up, enter a 12 step rehabilitation program, and restore Quicken to the quality product it was when I first bought it in the late 1990s.

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Use another program?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#41)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:27:04 AM PDT

I have twice decided that I was fed up with Quicken and would switch to MS Money. Both times I simply gave up. Once you know Quicken and have scads of files in that format, going to MS simply does not cut it. I imagine if one had started out with MS Money they would feel the same way. By the way, another user mentioned a server problem with Citibank accounts, I have that same problem with Chase credit cards. The thing will work for weeks and then not work for weeks. As long as you manually download once a month, you don't really lose anything.

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Intuit - Just Say NO[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:17:59 AM PDT

I think that the comments from "Why do you keep coming back," "Why am I not surprised," "What a mess...." are coming close to the view I have. I used Quicken 98 for several years. When I was considering upgrading, I talked a friend into un-installing his copy of Quicken 2005 so I could install it for a trial. I installed it on a stand-alone machine and when I found (from the error dialogs) that it wanted to "phone home" in order to work, that was the end of it. I scrubbed off all traces of the software and gave it back to my friend and warned him that Intuit was playing Big Brother. Since then, I've just been using Excel. Before any of you groan, I'd ask you to take stock of how much time you're spending (wasting?) on trying to get Quicken's features to work, and compare that to the corresponding productive time you'd be spending in tracking your stuff in Excel. As I see it, there are three options: 1 - continue to be a masochist and try and use Intuit software, 2 - switch to "real" business-grade accounting software (those companies know that actual corporations won't put up with shenanigans like Intuit is pulling...) but be prepared to spend big bucks, or 3 - use something like Excel. Acutally I guess there is a fourth option -- pencil and paper. When Intuit finds their user base at almost zero, and their revenue stream to match, then MAYBE they'll change their ways. Not until then.

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Excel vs Quicken/Intuit[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
by wagnert on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:56:32 PM PDT

I quit using Quicken over a decade ago and have been using Excel for all my accounting and other needs. I used to use TurboTax till I found they were "Phoning home" and switched to Taxcut several years ago. I have been perfectly happy with both products and never intend to use any Intuit product again. One product they used to sell is Quickverse, but that is now put out by a different company and I am still using Quickverse (a bible & reference product).

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Intuit, always had a problem[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#42)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:29:13 AM PDT

Years ago I used PTE, a Parson's Tax product. When Intuit bought them out I used it once more, then it was murdered. They offered Turbo at a good price so U went with it, but shortly the news of the "call home" got out and I moved to Tax Cut. Never had a problem since!

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Done with Intuit[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#45)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:59:12 AM PDT

I started using Quicken and Quickbooks in the mid-90's. It was a great product. I liked that I could pay my bills and download all my transactions easily. But, over the years, it seemed to get more and more difficult and need more and more upgrades. I couldn't share files if the latest update wasn't the same on different computers and there was a new update every time I turned around. If I didn't buy an upgrade features would stop working. In Quickbooks, witholding wouldn't work if I didn't buy a subscription to tax table updates. Finally, last year I gave up. I pay my bills through my bank's website. I get credit card transactions from the card issuer and dump them into Excel. I'm using an old Quickbooks with all the cool internet features disabled, but able to do most of the things I need. I look up tax info from the IRS- its actually less of a hassle than dealing with Intuit. I don't miss Quicken at all, other than the hours of typing in data that I never really needed anyway. And my old Quickbooks will do for my business- when I really need more features, I'll find another software package. Maybe an open source alternative will come along without all the strings attached.

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Quicken - once a great program[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#37)
by jrseh on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:03:59 PM PDT

I've been a Quicken user since the 80s, but the version I run now is Quicken 2002. After reviews told me that later versions had, essentially, "improved" the program without really improving the product, thus slowing it down and making it occasionally unable to read older data files, I stopped upgrading (I'm slow to upgrade anything unless REAL improvement will be gained - I just recently upgraded from W98 to XP). When my version "sunset" a few years ago, I continued entering my stock data (weekly) manually and never did rely on any other online feature. I've been a TurboTax beta tester for many years, and can understand the need to upgrade that product on an annual basis. But Quicken? If it ain't broke, don't fix it! FWIW, I've applied to become a Quicken beta tester, but thus far haven't been asked to become one.

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Another customer trying to leave Intuit[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#62)
by Anonymous User on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 10:29:32 PM PDT

I started using Quicken 4 for DOS, and have upgraded several times, pretty much only when forced to do so by threat of a lost feature. I liked Checkfree just fine for electronic banking, but then have been using the Quicken services. Like you, I was told my Quicken2005 would no longer download my bills. I went and bought Q2008, realizing it might not work -- and it doesn't. See I switched to Linux a couple of years ago. Crossover Office for Linux runs Q2005, but they haven't caught up w/ Q2008. I suppose they will -- but maybe it's time to see the light and just dump Intuit like I dumped Microsoft. It's not that the Quicken features worked all that well. Something was always breaking. So I'll be researching open source alternatives which support electronic banking. Am happy to have your suggestions. I'd like to do better than "Excel" ... (Actually OOCALC). I liked Quicken just fine, and knew it well -- but rather than suffer through the next painful upgrade, I think I'll just cut the cord.

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Enjoy the forums while you can...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:22:43 AM PDT

Another technology company that I (have to) deal with is Matrox - they have fair to poor support for their products (slow patches, patches that won't install, no public bug or fix lists). Their forum was a convenient and useful place for reporting or researching problems and community workarounds for various issues. Unfortunately, since they are very secretive about what they are doing, a great number of posts were demanding answers or fixes for the worst of the problems. So Matrox found a simple solution - they got rid of the forum altogether - problem solved. Now, finding any information at all to solve problems is next to impossible since non-official sources don't exist and the official sources are silent.

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Matrox[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Reziac on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:45:06 AM PDT

I'm very sad to hear that about Matrox. I've been a longtime supporter/purchaser of their products, since their own-brand products have historically been ultra-stable and ultra-reliable. (I haven't had to upgrade in some time, so haven't direct experience of their newer products. Fact is, I've never had to use their tech support, because everything I've had from Matrox always Just Worked.)

I can understand a company not having the resources to tackle some issues (perhaps even critical issues); it happens in today's economy, and hardware products have razor-thin margins at the best of times. I can even be patient if they're up-front about it. But any company that won't even *acknowledge* issues, or worse, tries to hide them, I can't condone or support.

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~REZ~
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Why am I not surprised?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by sehlat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:35:47 AM PDT

I saw this coming a LONG time ago, when they went to "forced upgrades" in QuickBooks for "tax tables." and disabling payroll functions unless you paid them the danegeld to get the updates and reactivate that function.

This was while I was considering getting Quicken 2000. I *still* use Quicken 98 and have successfully moved it to new machines across the years. It does everything I need it to do (basic checkbook) and I don't have to care what Intuit wants.

Let's face it, when a company starts blackmailing its customers in order to sink a well into their wallets, it's time to quit doing business with them. Don't gripe about "on (their) demand upgrades." You were warned years ago.

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Sticking with an old version Quicken [ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:42:50 AM PDT

I'm with Selhat on this. I only use Quicken for check register, reconciliation, and budget reporting, and don't link to other financial systems so Quicken '98 meets my needs. I have been using Quicken since MS-DOS in the 80's, and used to periodically get updates on my schedule. When the updates just added more bells and whistles I didn't need, I stopped.

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Arrrgh![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#54)
by Anonymous User on Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 05:21:39 AM PDT

It's "sehlat", you uncultured redneck. Does no-one watch Star Trek anymore? Urgh. What passes for "civilization" these days -- nobody watches the classics!

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#80)
by maderikapapa on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 10:03:27 AM PDT

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#84)
by Anonymous User on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:53:23 PM PDT

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#88)
by Anonymous User on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:54:04 AM PDT

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Extortion not Blackmail[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#52)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 01, 2008 at 11:42:02 AM PDT

Extortion is what Intuit is guilty of, not blackmail.

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What a mess made of a once great product[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:42:45 AM PDT

I don't trust any financial entities to update my financial package. That's the point of me manually entering my receipts, stock prices and comparing statements every month. With that, I'm still happily using Quicken v6 until a better solution appears. I'm no Luddite and I haven't been sunsetted either.

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FIs don't like Quicken either[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:56:43 AM PDT

I work for a mid-sized credit union that provides downloads for Quicken. Although I have to hold my nose a little when I recommend a Microsoft product, our prefernce would be that everyone switch to Money. The reason goes back to the change that Quicken made in 2001. When they did away with the QIF file format infavor of the QFX format, they forced financial institutions that wanted to continue offering downloads to pay a license fee. We paid the blood money, which amounts to several thousand dollars a year (and we are not a huge institution), but we don't get any data from Quicken and don't really know if we are getting our money's worth. Many credit unions just stopped offering the downloads. The problem is that if we had done that, it would have made US look back to our members, even though it was Quicken that changed their policy. I will admit, however, that in exchange for our blood money we get free copies of the software for anyone internally who supports it, and we get fairly decent service--much better than end users get. Microsoft does not charge us anything to allow their downloads or for the custom branding they let us do. They also have a discount purchase policy that allow FIs to buy the product in bulk at a discount and give it away free. I know of some credit unions who stopped offering Quicken downloads and instead give Quicken users a free copy of Money. The problem is that it doesn't help Mac users since there is no Money for Mac. However, Microsoft does do the same thing Quicken when it comes to sunsetting. They force you to upgrade after a few years if you want to continue receiving downloads. It sort of seems like they warn you up front, but I could be wrong.

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I really don't need what Quicken offers[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:04:39 AM PDT

Back in 1990 (or earlier) I started using Parsons Technologies "Money Counts"  When Parsons got bought by Intuit They had an upgrade path from Money Counts to Quicken.  I soon discovered that nothing in Quicken was better, and in many ways it was worse.  I don't need to update my banking data or investment data from the internet so I made an easy decision and stayed with the last version of Money Counts (9.x) since 1995.


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Money counts, yeah![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#46)
by rodak on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:23:22 PM PDT

I LOVED Money Counts! (the old DOS text-only version). I switched to Larry Burkett's "Money Matters about 10 years ago, and while it was inferior and quirky, I've just gotten used to it. I'm still using the old 2000 MM "Basic" because their recent upgrades were buggy and weird. Thanks to forums like Ed's here, I would NEVER consider an Intuit product. I looked at MoneyDance a few years ago, but man, changing a financial management program is HARD - there's an incredible amount of inertia once you get used to one.

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Changing horses[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#56)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 07:29:50 AM PDT

>> ...changing a financial management program is HARD - there's an incredible amount of inertia... And THAT is what Intuit is counting on.

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nice formatting[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#57)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 07:32:26 AM PDT

in the comment editor........ I thought it would recognize a couple of carriage returns.... Apparently I have to put in HTML tags?

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by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:04:45 AM PDT

Does anyone have suggestions for a reasonable alternative to Quickbooks? We have a small professional services company and are on QB2006 at the moment. Being able to automatically transfer our data from QB to some other program rather than having to run parallel sets of books or re-enter data would be a big plus.

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Alternatives to Quickbooks, Quicken[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by PMCS Fox on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:46:37 AM PDT

Research open source accounting software.  You will be pleasantly surprised.

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by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:02:20 PM PDT

I use BillQuick (http://billquick.com/) for my own services company. The free version handles basic time and expense tracking, billing, etc. fine for my one-man-shop consulting business.

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