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A Grueling Free Trial With Earthlink

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Sep 20, 2007 at 10:22:41 AM PDT

Earthlink has borrowed from the AOL playbook before in terms of luring users in with free trial offers and then making it hard to cancel the account. But one reader says Earthlink has added another offensive weapon -- namely, harassing customers by phone.


"My mother is having a horrendous problem with Earthlink," the reader wrote. "Last year, we set her up with a computer. She's in her 70's and not an avid Internet user, so we established an Earthlink dial-up free trial relationship. She never really used it, so when the bill came, she wrote to cancel. But the bills kept coming."

The reader's mother then tried to cancel the account by phone. "Apparently that was an invitation to begin harassing her with phone calls to collect past due accounts. Further phone calls to cancel were to no avail. She continues to receive threatening phone calls and the bills keep coming in the mail. She never even used the service!"

While it's possible the reader's mother may have failed to cancel the account before the free trial expired, what really has the reader upset is Earthlink's unwillingness to honor any of their attempts to cancel the account. "She sent them a cancellation notice more than once, but they continue to harass her about past due bills. She can't seem to shake them, even after my brother called and got assurances that it would be resolved. I imagine the hours and cycles spent by Earthlink to collect have far exceeded the original bill which was for a service that was cancelled and never used."

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A couple of notes...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 08:25:11 AM PDT

While it's possible the reader's mother may have failed to cancel the account before the free trial expired, what really has the reader upset is Earthlink's unwillingness to honor any of their attempts to cancel the account.

Here is the first problem. Failing to cancel the account on time. This automatically makes it difficult for you to claim to be blameless in this matter. You should have signed her up with a billed ISP from the start, preferrably a smaller local one that gives a care about its customers.

When a situation like this occurs, the first thing you should do is inform the customer service representative you call that you are recording the call; state your name, the date, and the time. Ask them for their name and their employee ID. Inform them of your intent to cancel; if they attempt to deflect it, tell them firmly "I am informing you that I wish to cancel NOW. You are legally obligated to honor my request." Get a confirmation number (or cancellation number, or whatever this ISP calls it), and document all of this. If they fail, you have a paper trail. Nothing replaces good documentation; if you don't document it, it didn't happen.

One other method is to send a written request via registered mail (requires a signature) with all of your pertinent account details. In your case, it has gotten far enough that I would pay $50 and have an attorney write up a short letter on your behalf indicating what has happened, your insistence that the account be canceled, and that you be only obligated for the amount you truly owe.

Should you have to do a lot of this garbage? No, but it has dragged on long enough that this is the only way. And in the future, remember that if you have a free trial, you MUST cancel within that time period or you're on the hook Getting off the hook once you're on is what has made this far more of a pain than it ought to be.

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Eh[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 11:24:07 PM PDT

This is nonsense. Even if the trial period expired, they are obligated to cancel when the customer says "cancel" and the customer is only legally on the hook for however much time/usage/whatever elapsed between the end of the trial period and the first time they said "cancel" and discontinued any use of the service.

On the other hand, I personally would never sign up for any "free trial" where they insisted on having payment information up front. A truly honest vendor providing a free trial would not request such until the free trial period was nearly over, and then notify you that the period was nearly over and service would be discontinued on such-and-such a date unless they received payment information and authorization to bill you.

Of course, there doesn't seem to be such a vendor in existence, for internet or any other sort of service...

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Get Off Your Soap Box![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Tue Sep 25, 2007 at 04:52:30 PM PDT

Good grief, what a pretentious bunch of crap.

It is your contention that if the account had been canceled within the original trial period, Earthlink would have honored the cancellation despite the fact that they have failed to honor every other request? Why would that be?

What do you mean "when a situation like this occurs"? Should she have magically known when she tried to cancel the account that they would not honor the request?

This woman is being mistreated by Earthlink and you are lecturing her on what *she* has done wrong. Sheesh.

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by Anonymous User on Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 12:32:04 PM PDT

Sure, she's being mistreated, and I agree with that.

At the same time, if the customer had cancelled prior to the free trial period, there would be far less hangups with them accusing her of owing them money --she would owe them NO money, still being under the trial period. It would be difficult for Earthlink to make the excuse about being owed money.

Furthermore, (and I realize I came off a little harsh here, but it is true) we live in an age where if you do not document everything on your end when trying to resolve a dispute, or terminate a contract, that large corporations are likely to just claim (through either incompetence or malice) that they have no record of your call. Documentation is, time and time again, your only friend in this matter. And if you have ever dealt with a large ISP such as AOL or Earthlink, when things do drag out and you have little or no documentation, time is on their side, and they know it. Some companies like AOL have a clause that says they only owe you a maximum of 2-3 months worth of fees in the event that a billing mistake is made on their part (something I found out from personal experience over a decade ago). Remember also that the poor sods in the call center get raked over the coals when they lose accounts, and so creative incompetence ("losing" cancellation records) becomes very convenient, as miserable as this is.

My advice for her still stands, and she has to be harsh, or a big company like Earthlink simply isn't going to care about what they perceive to be a little problem --and remember, the poor sods in the call center. Does it stink? Yes. Is Earthlink at fault? Yes. If I came off harsh, it is more due to my belief that most people who read this column are of technical bent, and came from the belief that the original (assumed somewhat technical) person who signed their mother up should have known better than to go with a large company known to treat neophytes (like his mother) like this. I wouldn't let my enemies use a national ISP like Earthlink or AOL, let alone my friends.

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Stop screwing around with this[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by kamnet on Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 07:13:28 PM PDT

Call customer service back one more time and tell them flat out, cancel the account, amend the bill for AT MOST, one month past the free trial.

Then, threaten them.

If they attempt to bill your mother again for anything beyond that, threaten to report them to the state attorney generals office for fraud. Demand that they never again contact her by telephone, because if they do you will report them to the FTC for violations of the Fair Debt Collection Act. Also make mention that if they report this problem, which is their fault because of failure to honor your mother's request to cancel her account, to any credit agency, and it damages her credit, that you will pursue a lawsuit against them for damages far in excess of whatever their bill is.

This should be sufficient to send them backpeddaling and begging for forgiveness.

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Tiscalli plays games as well[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Mon Sep 24, 2007 at 01:29:13 AM PDT

Couple of years ago I setup a Tiscalli dialup account and was happy with it, but last year switched to broadband with another supplier. Then came the games with Tiscalli to cancel. Their rep said that I could not cancel my account without an account reference that came with the original dial-up contract. Of course I could not find that one piece of paper from several years previously so asked for them to tell me. They could not tell me what that was even though I had all the other information including payment scheme / billing references, username, password etc. I rang up several times and got the same story from different people so it was obviously not just a rogue response. I even started to go down the road of just writing a recorded letter of cancellation and just stop payment. They informed me if I just stopped paying they would put a non-payment on my credit reference and send in the debt collectors. I finally resolved it by ringing up and pretending that I had a query from my accountant and that he need the account reference number for my tax records. They gave it to me straight away. Someone slight more cynical could conclude that there was a deliberate policy to give this run-around to anyone who used the word `cancel' - but Companies don't do that sort of thing do they?

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bbb info on earthlink[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by nicievans on Mon Sep 24, 2007 at 10:57:45 AM PDT

http://www.atlanta.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=679

Earthlink, Inc.
1375 Peachtree St NE
Atlanta, GA 30309-3173
Telephone: (800) 719-4664
www.earthlink.net

Principal: Mr. Michael C. Lunsford, Interim CEO
Consumers may contact Earthlink Service & Support at 888-327-8454 or http://support.eartklink.net/contact/.

Additional Phone Numbers
Tel: (404) 815-0770
Tel: (888) 327-8454
Tel: (404) 815-8805
If you send a certified letter, try sending it directly to Mr. Lunsford. It will almost certainly be opened by a secretary, but is still MUCH more likely to be taken seriously.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
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Tried Your Attorney General?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Tue Sep 25, 2007 at 12:37:53 PM PDT

The solution to the AOL problem should also work for Earthlink: get your state's Attorney General involved. While this woman may owe up until the point she cancelled, she should not owe anything past that, and this harassment is surely illegal.

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This always happens with free trials[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 06:24:09 PM PDT

Magazines, newspapers, record and book clubs - this is nothing new. "You can cancel at any time" means nothing. Scam-of-the-month club all over again.

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A Grueling Free Trial With Earthlink[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Stagelight on Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 07:23:38 PM PDT

If someone does not pay their water bill, their electric bill, and their cable TV bill, their house soon becomes dry, dark, and quiet. I'm not offering legal advice here, but it seems that Earthlink has a duty to mitigate damages by suspending service. The argument would then be about the cost of two months service, not an ever-increasing amount.

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Eh.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Sat Oct 13, 2007 at 12:07:11 PM PDT

As long as she isn't using it, it isn't costing them anything, so by leaving the service "on" they can make her owe them more and more money, so why shouldn't they? It's called capitalism. :P

Actually, it's a variation of the old scam of unsolicitedly washing someone's windshield and then intimidating them into paying for the service afterward.

Earthstink is organized crime masquerading as a legitimate corporation (much like AOL). Avoid them.

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