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Recalling a Dell With a Cracked LCD

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Thu Aug 17, 2006 at 11:57:48 PM PDT

Here's an interesting take on Dell's recall of over four million laptops due to battery problems. How many of those four million customers no longer have the original unit because Dell blamed them for damage caused by an overheating battery? That's what one reader is convinced happened to him.


"In March, less than six months after I purchased it, I opened up my Dell Inspiron one day," the reader wrote. "Immediately, I could see the screen was badly cracked. The notebook had been sitting there untouched on my desk since the last time I had used it, at which time it was working fine. But now the screen was too distorted to use."

Even at the time, the reader could think of only one explanation. "I had always thought that the notebook ran rather warm, but I attributed this to the wide screen and other features," the reader wrote. "But when I saw what had happened, I was certain it must have been heat from the battery after I closed the lid that had caused the LCD to crack."

As the laptop was still under warranty, the reader called Dell and shipped it in. Of course, he was soon told that Dell had determined the cracked LCD was due to customer abuse and repairs would therefore not be covered under his warranty. "They wanted almost a thousand dollars to replace the screen," the reader wrote. "I told them I could buy a better computer for not much more money, which proved to be the case. After many phone calls and e-mails, I told them to keep it. I hope Dell is enjoying my Inspiron."

One has to wonder how many other Dell customers already had a similar experience with a Dell laptop that would now be eligible for the recall. When an LCD is cracked, the easy thing for Dell - or any other portable manufacturer, for that matter - to do is to blame it on the customer. And perhaps that will turn out to be the real lesson of the Dell recall. A flawed product is the manufacturer's responsibility only after enough customers force them to acknowledge it.

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And Dell could have known this how?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Aug 18, 2006 at 06:05:50 AM PDT

Seriously, how was DELL supposed to know that the battery had caused a crack in the monitor. How are we supposed to believe that somehow the hot battery caused the cool screen to crack? It seems to me that the battery would have to be awfully hot and the screen awfully cool to cause cracking. I don't believe the person even now.

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Testing, maybe?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Fri Aug 18, 2006 at 07:41:46 AM PDT

"How was Dell supposed to know?"

If the customer tells Dell that the battery was too hot, Dell could turn the thing on and use a thermometer to test the theory.

Why would the screen need to be cool?  Heat expands.   Screen's locked in place with nowhere to expand. The middle would bend inward or outward until it cracked, yes?

It's a shame the customer told Dell to keep the laptop.  Too many people do that with all sorts of things.  If I spent several hundred or thousand dollars on something, I'd be sure to hang onto it, even if broken.  It could be useful in a lawsuit later.  Or, in this case, a recall.

If the customer still has the RMA or trouble ticket number, he might be able to get Dell's decision reversed and get a new laptop.  If he doesn't need it anymore, he can sell it on eBay. *grin*

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We don't know enough[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 06:15:33 AM PDT

The screen is not locked in place. Remember that the metal around the screen expands also.

We don't know that Dell didn't turn the laptop on and check the temperature.

What we do know is that Dell has owned up to bad batteries and has issued a recall. Someone with a broken laptop screen has jumped to the conclusion that the thing that is wrong (a hot battery) must have caused their screen to crack. I don't believe them. And neither did Dell apparently.

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We don't know enough[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 11:03:20 AM PDT

Wow - the Dell marketing folks are sure monitoring customer complaints on the Internet very diligently. They even got the first post to this story. I wonder if spend as much money on customer support and service as they do on this type of damage control monitoring and advocacy posting?

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We don't know enough[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 12:02:14 PM PDT

Yes the metal around the screen expands as well as the rest of the device; however, when an enclosure expands the inside perimeter gets smaller as the outside gets larger.

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Wrong[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 12:36:19 PM PDT

Aside from the main issue, you said, "inside perimeter gets smaller as the outside gets larger." That is wrong. Both get larger.

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c'mon mr. physics[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 10:57:21 PM PDT

Regardless of whether the expansion of the metal case surround would increase or alleviate pressure against the screen, application of heat to cool glass is known to cause the glass to crack or even shatter because of pressure from the surrounding glass which is not trying to expand. If you've ever taken a laptop apart you'd know that the case isn't that tight against the screen anyway; the metal or plastic you're looking at is little more than a decorative trim ring in most cases.

An open screen in an air conditioned office could be quite cool, and when placed in close proximity to a hot battery it is at least a plausible explanation for a cracked screen.

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edit for precision[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 10:58:42 PM PDT

"pressure from the surrounding glass" should read something more like "pressure against the surrounding glass" if you want to be technical about it.

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by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 05:46:48 AM PDT

This is a question I was asked in school (K-12). If you have a ring of metal and you heat it will the interior diameter grow or shrink? Does the metal expand inward as well as laterally (along the ring)?

You've stated that it will expand inward and thus the  interior diameter would shrink (pinning or cracking the screen glass in this case). Now imagine that the ring of metal is actually a disk (i.e. the ring is filled in with metal). The interior disk is going to expand when heated and this would interfere with the external ring IF it expanded inward. But a uniform disk of metal doesn't exhibit this behavior. The entire disk expands and gets bigger (larger external diameter).

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by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 09:26:26 AM PDT

If the FAA can reconstruct the pieces of a wrecked plane and determine the cause of the crash, it seems that Dell - with their resources - could very easily reconstruct the damage to a simple laptop. As the next reader said, plug it in, check the battery temp, and...there you are. At some point, the screen will crack, and I have no doubt that Dell knows that point within a tenth of a degree. I wouldn't trust them any farther than I can throw Texas (which isn't far enough).

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Cracking up, not funny at all[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 04:06:08 AM PDT

My Dell Inspirion LCD is cracked too. Opened it up one day, and there it was. I keep my laptop on for extended periods, then shut it down and shut the top. After contacting Dell I was told I too was out of warranty. Checking out sites to replace this screen - could buy a new laptop, upgraded, for just a bit more. Saw this site. As I was typing, I felt the screen panel. the plastic border at the bottom gets VERY hot; likewise, the screen is hot about one inch up. I'm thinking this hot battery/cracked screen is not a coincidence. If the battery can heat up enough TO CAUSE A FIRE it can certainly heat up enough to compromise the LCD screen ( which is liquid filled ). I'd like to know how many people are out there experiencing this - there is power in numbers. Seems to me for us heavy users this would explain the unexplained crack - which shouldn't be happening at all, requiring us to buy new systems. Over the past two years, i've bought four systems for my use and my family, a printer and various other items. Not looking for a freebie but am looking for what I paid for and not getting ripped off by Dell for what they admit was their mistake in manufacture. Please post with your stories...

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Cracked LCD Screen on Dell Inspiron[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#42)
by Anonymous User on Fri Sep 01, 2006 at 06:19:35 AM PDT

I was reading these post as looking for a fix for my laptop screen. The same thing happened to my laptop as in these post and the part under the screen where Dell is written is very very hot. My screen crack looks like a sunburst crack in the left of the center and then from the top left hand corner a strong black line. The sunburst crack is clear however you can see that is started there. When I contacted Dell I was told that my warrenty would not cover. My laptop is only 6 months old. I have been looking for a replacement however I am finding to replace the LCD screen is just as much as another laptop. Has anyone else had a similar problem and was able to get it fixed cheap? Please let me know. Thanks,

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Dell Inspiron - LCD cracked[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#59)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 30, 2007 at 10:51:08 AM PDT

I have just experienced the same thing. Closed my screen with the computer in hibernation and my wife opened it the next day to use it only to find the screen cracked as you all have discovered. My computer also is only 9 months old and I have been told by Dell it is my problem, I have to have damaged it some how, warranty does not cover it, and it will be $400 to fix it. I have no idea hopw Dell can pull this off. I can not explain how disgusted I am with Dell.

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