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Hyperbowl DRM Still Making Kids Sad

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 04:12:40 PM PDT

While the Microsofts, Symantecs, HPs and Dells make many appearances in the Gripe Line, one repeat performer I wouldn't have expected is software game vendor Hyperbowl. A couple of years ago I wrote about Hyperbowl's product activation depriving one reader's child of a favorite game. Unfortunately, a recent message from another reader shows that Hyperbowl has not changed its ways.


The reader writes:

"Last year we purchased Hyperbowl Arcade Edition online for our son's birthday. He struggles with a major brain disorder and several other life-impacting syndromes. The one thing he is able to do pretty well is play some computer games and video games. He was thrilled to get the Hyperbowl, and played it very often until the computer it was installed on died."

"Because of his learning disabilities, we have home-schooled our son for several years. He could hardly wait until we could replace his computer, which we did with a refurbished computer. I dutifully installed all the old programs onto the replacement computer and thought everything was 'good to go.' Upon coming home the next evening, my son told me his Hyperbowl wasn't working. I sat down, and discovered that Hyperbowl only licenses the program for the single computer. If you have to replace the computer, you're out of luck!"

"I sent an e-mail asking why on earth I couldn't have the license transferred to the replacement computer and they sent a lame e-mail reply telling me how costly it would be to do that, etc. etc. but that I could BUY a new program at a discounted price - not much, mind you! I had a son crying, asking me why he can't play the game we had bought him for his birthday the previous year. Tell me, how do you explain the disgusting greed of a software company to a child? Needless to say, I will never buy anything from that company, and if I can dissuade even one person from making the same mistake we did, I'll be one happy camper!"

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that is pretty sad[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 06:16:25 PM PDT

hopefully they will rethink their policy if they get enough publicity. not that i care a bit about them, but hopefully your son will get a replacement game.

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Just do the "wrong" thing...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by jabba17 on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 06:23:49 PM PDT

It's times like this you just have to break the rules, ignore the DMCA, and hit a warez site to find a cracked version of the game.

Vigilante justice is usually pretty icky and generally not recommended, but sometimes it's all you got to get back what you had before.

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Two suggestions[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Fri Jun 09, 2006 at 01:36:11 AM PDT

One, they pirate the game with a stolen activation code or similar. They did pay for a copy, so it wouldn't be immoral to do so, even if you believe in all that copyright mumbo-jumbo, despite how little it obviously has to do with "progress of the sciences and useful arts" these days and how much it has to do with monopolies and making a very few people very rich at the expense of very many people.

Two, we kill DRM and the DMCA once and for all now. This is the one piece of ammunition we lacked and needed. This incident is perfect -- the kid's the perfect poster child for a "repeal the DMCA, this isn't what it was for" movement. Someone get on the horn to the EFF. Maybe they can try fighting this with a pro-bono EFF legal assistant in small-claims court before resorting to cracking the game -- it's the ideal test case, with the most sympathetic possible good guys and the usual unsympathetic greedy bad guys, never mind the fact that it clearly pushes use of the DMCA way beyond what was ever intended and clearly infringes on traditional fair use, which includes "they can't come and take the copy of a copyrighted work back from you for arbitrary reasons after you paid fair price for it", which would seem to fall under first sale...

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Go warez[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by LasVegan on Fri Jun 09, 2006 at 05:51:01 AM PDT

Another vote for a warez solution. Their DRM is in the way of legit use, there's no moral issue in breaking it.

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A paraphrase that comes to mind...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by sremick on Fri Jun 09, 2006 at 11:06:04 AM PDT

When you have to break the law to exercise your rights, the only ones with any rights will be the lawbreakers.

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DRM?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Sun Jun 11, 2006 at 10:29:13 PM PDT

Oh please... go buy a copy of the 7 year old game on eBay for less than $2 bucks ($1.57)...

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NO![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 05:00:37 AM PDT

He already bought a copy, why buy another? That's just stupid and wrong. Go for a no-CD-crack or whatever you need to get the copy you already bought running.

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Oh?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by LasVegan on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 07:02:50 AM PDT

Zero correct hits.

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EBay[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 08:40:34 AM PDT

As near as I can tell, none of the copies listed are for the PC. The other issue is the OP would have to make sure they weren't buying a used game, otherwise they're right back where they started from.

Frankly, I wouldn't do anything to even remotely support this company and it's products, not even in the secondary market. Let the company die the slow, painful death it deserves.

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Resale[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 10:16:38 AM PDT

I bet the eBay sales are not legit either. I'm sure some where in the EULA is a stipulation that the game can not be resold.

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Read the FAQ[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 11:26:16 AM PDT

Since each download license of HyperBowl Arcade Edition can only be installed and activated on one computer, this message indicates that the computer hardware that you are currently attempting to use your authorization code on does not match the computer your license has been locked to. Substantially modifying your computer hardware, such as replacing the motherboard or several other core components, may make it impossible for your computer to be recognized -- while more typical upgrades such as adding memory or changing a peripheral device will not prevent re-activation. Each computer must have its own license to play the downloadable version of HyperBowl Arcade Edition. An additional computer license may be purchased for a discounted price, through a special link found on the download page. The CD-ROM version does not require online activation and can therefore be used to play on any compatible computer, without hardware locking.

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Apologists and astroturfers aren't welcome here[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 12:28:44 PM PDT

And you think this is fair? "Them's the rules, ma'am" doesn't cut any ice with me, or any other smart consumer advocate, I'm afraid. And we can spot industry apologists and astroturfers miles away. What ever happened to concepts like "fair use" and "first sale"? Why is it that simply slapping a "license agreement" on a copyrighted work, which generally isn't visible until after the money already changed hands and usually isn't human-readable anyway, somehow magically makes all those inconvenient parts of copyright law just disappear and turns the copyright holder into God and everything they say into commandments with the force of law? It's not as if the customer and you actually got together, negotiated, and then signed a written contract or anything.

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Fair use? Um....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by davidspalding on Mon Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:30 PM PDT

Feel free to explain to us how the Fair Use concept applies here. ;)

Frankly, quoting from teh FAQ is not Dark Lord of the Sith behavior. If that's the license, that's the license. I don't like their policy any more than the rest of you, that's why I buy software from firms like Adobe and Microsoft that DO allow multiple system installations, within limits. Likewise, these DRM solutions turn me off. If it's too much trouble just to activate and use the software that I'VE PAID FOR, I'll find someone elses.

I'm probably lucky, I don't buy things like this. But when I do ... I got for the CD version, with docs, etc. It's just more comforting to have the physical stuff in hand.

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bug off it's a reply not a new thread[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jun 13, 2006 at 07:36:14 AM PDT

A license on a copyrighted work can provide for additional distribution and public performance beyond what is allowed under fair use and first sale. It cannot further restrict it.

A negotiated contract between a vendor and a client can limit the client beyond copyright law (or other laws), but I don't think there was any negotiated contract here.

Or do you honestly believe that anyone can write some list of rules on some sheet of paper, make it look like lawyer-Newspeak, stuff it in a box with something that happens to be copyrighted by them, and have those rules magically develop the force of law over anyone who obtains and opens said box later on, even when the rules have nothing to do with distribution or public performance of the work they enclosed in the box?

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Hyperbowl has no excuse[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by GoFigure on Tue Jun 13, 2006 at 10:51:18 AM PDT

Anyone who has bought Alcohol 120 knows that they license it for one computer. However, you can install it on several and just go to their website, login, and activate it on the computer you want to use it on. When it is activated on one it is automatically deactivated on another. Simple system that Hyperbowl could use to enforce its EULA and users would still have access to the software they bought. Otherwise I say go the warez route and let hyperbowl hyperdie.

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Hyperbowl has no excuse...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 03:02:41 PM PDT

How about this... you cannot even buy the game anymore... Had a massive lightning strike --- wiped our computer --- and now I find that there is no possible way to obtain replacement of the Hyperbowl upgrade (downloaded purchase) and the CD is not available anywhere... and even if it were, will it activate? Help? Bill (bilbobagg1@hotmail.com)

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    Unfairly restrictive[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
    by The Masked Marauder on Tue Jun 13, 2006 at 11:58:19 AM PDT

    If Hyperbowl is going to limit installation to one PC, it needs to have the ability to deactivate the current hardware ID and activate a new one. Not allowing the owner of a legitimate copy the right to transfer it to a new PC is pure, unadulterated b*llsh*t. If the company refuses to allow this, then I say to go for a program crack, and license be damned.

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    You are now a happy camper[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
    by Anonymous User on Tue Jun 13, 2006 at 01:27:16 PM PDT

    I e-mailed the following to Hyper Entertainment's sales dept. You got through to at least 1 person. You are now a happy camper: Is it possible that the comments made at http://newsletter.infoworld.com/t?ctl=12988E8:1F5EAA4 about your company are true? Could you really sell a product that, if a machine is replaced, can't be reinstalled, in spite of having bought it from you in good faith? If I buy a navigation system for my car, am I not allowed to use it in any other car than the one for which I bought it? And, if I want to use it in another car, I can only do so by buying another system? Surely, there are two sides to every story, though I find this one very disconcerting. I buy a great many games, and have heard good things about Hyperbowl. The remarks in the blog noted above have insured that I will not be buying this or any other product from you. How sad and unnecessary.

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    Similar to Prior Dell situation ??[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
    by Anonymous User on Wed Jun 14, 2006 at 08:54:42 AM PDT

    Wasn't there a situation in Gripeline regarding reinstalling M$ on a computer from Dell where the end user contacted the Attorney General's office in Texas (Dell's home) to complain?

    Maybe the same tact should be used here, as well as the spreading of the word to not buy Hyperbowl.

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