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Sprint Makes Customer a Blade Runner

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Fri May 12, 2006 at 12:58:10 AM PDT

It seems like almost everyone has a long horror story to tell about mistreatment by their cell phone service, so I try not to do too many of them for fear they'll drown out all our other gripe topics. But I have to make an exception for the grueling but well-told tale one reader has been relaying to me about her struggles with Sprint in acquiring a Samsung A900, aka the "Blade" (as opposed to the Motorola "Razr") cell phone.


The reader first wrote me in mid March:

"I've had my cell phone for seven years, and decided it was time for a new one -- the new features finally outweighed the pain of re-entering all my stuff. I'd had good experience with Sprint in the past. They bought the company that bought the company that bought the company I bought my phone from -- once, someone even called to tell me I could have a better plan with hundreds more minutes for $5, and also fixed a longtime error in my record. So I decided to stick with them. Ah, hindsight."

"My last phone had been the top-of-the-line model, so I decided to opt for that again, and selected the Blade, whose reviews I had seen. OK, I went to the Sprint website and found a number to call to order the phone and also to get a new plan with more minutes. I called, and the sales guy said the phone would cost me $199, after my $150 discount for being with them more than two years. But because I was an existing customer, he couldn't make the deal for me, I had to go through customer service. He did eventually send me to customer service for a new plan, after pushing me to agree to a two-year contract in order to get a 5 percent discount. OK, so I got the new plan, for two years, in time to start the new month with more minutes. But the customer service person said that the Blade phone was available only in the stores."

"The next day I went to the Sprint store. The nice fellow there said they were out of the Blades, but I could order one on the phone. I was about to explain how I had tried to do that, but he picked up the phone right there and even dialed it for me, and I talked to a jovial fellow who found my account info, agreed that I was entitled to the discount, and said that the phone would be shipped out right away. I asked how I would pay for it, if I should give a credit card to the fellow in the store, and he said no need, the $199 would go onto my statement that would be prepared after midnight that night. I was happy with the way it had (seemed to) turn out."

"The next afternoon, I got a call from a Sprint guy in India. He said he was with the shipping department. Yeah, right. I recognized his accent and asked if he was in India and he said he was. I didn't bother to question whether the phone was really being shipped from India. He said the price of my phone would be $349 because I couldn't have the discount on a telephone order, just in the store. I said that wasn't fair -- I went to the store and they didn't have any, and the guy in the store even dialed up the order-taker for me. He allowed as how maybe I had a point, and told me to call Customer Care and explain, and then they could do a manual override so I could get the discount."

"Maybe he gave me a number, maybe I got the number off the Web again, I don't remember now. But I did get a salesperson who was literally unintelligible, her accent was so strong. I kept asking her to repeat things, hoping she would use different words, but she appeared unable to deviate from the script. I asked if there was someone else I could talk to, but she wouldn't let me. I did get enough understood that she was able to tell me I needed to talk with Customer Care, but then she wouldn't transfer me! She was repeatedly pushing me to take some offer I honestly could not decipher, and she wouldn't transfer me until I said she had to or I was hanging up. I couldn't believe she was so intransigent. And I couldn't believe Sprint had someone on the front lines with customers who couldn't even speak understandable English. I am, ahem, of a certain age -- I know what COBOL is -- and have NEVER had such a frustrating experience with a salesperson. Never had one I truly could not understand, never had one who was so unhelpful! Never had to threaten to hang up."

"OK, she transferred me finally and I got someone else, who was, thank goodness, intelligible. She was also understanding. She kept me on the line for a good while, as she figured out how to do the override. But she was pleasant and finally she said it had gone through. Then she asked me for my credit card number. I told her that it wasn't needed, that it would go onto my statement, as the other guy had said on the phone in the store. But no. I said I had a confirmation number -- she said that was just an order number, it didn't mean my phone could go on the statement. I had to pay then or no phone. OK, I gave her the info -- after all, I had expected to pay in the store -- but jeepers, how come every person I talked to had different rules?"

"Well, that was on March 1. Guess what -- I still haven't got my phone. But my credit card has been charged the $199. Should I bail on this? Darn it, I want the phone now, I really got into the features. Can I even bail now if I decide I want to? And, is this normal? If so, what the heck have we come to?"

I suggested to the reader she might want to consider disputing the credit card charge while it would still be easy to do. Perhaps that would spur Sprint to either send her the phone or cancel the whole deal. But a few days later she wrote back with another development. "There is a wrinkle that should give you a chuckle," the reader wrote. "I just got my latest Sprint bill, and it included two credits, one for $100 and one for $50. That's how the customer service rep overrode the out-of-store price of $349! So the phone, which I still don't have, would cost me only $49, if I were to keep this to myself. But I won't, and that's because I am a human being with ethics, eve if they're not. Sigh. But even $49 is too much for a phantom phone. I will let you know what happens."

Over the next few weeks, the reader valiantly did battle with Sprint Customer Care, but without much success. Although not quite as bad as her first experience, most didn't quite seem to speak her language. "You might think I'm tone deaf by the way I have gone on about the accents, but it's the contrary," the reader wrote. "I have quite a good ear, and I live in an area where many people's first languages are not English or even Romance languages, and I don't have problems with them. I am harping on this because it is so removed from my experience, and so strange."

Finally, the reader tried calling the Sprint sales line again and managed to hook up with a rep who looked up her order and assured her it would now go through with the proper discounts. "And in just a couple of days I got my exciting, sleek, space age phone delivered to my door!" the reader wrote. "The phone is very nice, I am pleased with it. The manual leaves much to be desired -- the instructions are often not fleshed out enough to tell you how to actually DO something, just that it can be done. The camera is pretty good though. So I have been playing with my luscious new toy and thinking that all's well that ends well..."

"Not! A couple of days ago I got my invoice for March, and guess what? I bet you can guess ... Yep, there was the original $349 for the phone."

Essentially, Sprint has double billed the reader for what has become, from her point of view, quite an expensive cell phone. "Yes, indeed, a veritable Faberge phone," the reader wrote. "Let's see, $199 on the credit card plus $349 on the Sprint bill, plus $12 shipping -- a nice $560 total. Then $150 in credits, so it's $410 for a phone that was supposed to cost me $199. I don't know what I am going to do now. It makes me feel tired to even contemplate it."

Not wanting to brave Sprint Customer Care again, the reader is hoping that perhaps she can dispute the original $199 charge with her credit card company, since nothing was ever really shipped for that order. Or perhaps some kindly Sprint person reading this will want to look into her case -- phone order number PZW1224001 is what's on the packing slip, she says -- and see if they can straighten it out. One way or another, hopefully we will still eventually hear a happy ending to this very long cell horror story.

Update [2006-5-12 19:4:51 by Ed Foster]: Good news -- the reader reports she was contacted by several Sprint officials today who apologized for the problems she's had. Her account will be credited so she pays $199.99 plus tax and shipping for the cell phone.

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Sprint Bad[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by srynas on Fri May 12, 2006 at 05:46:53 AM PDT

Two years ago we cancelled our Sprint service for giving us the appalling run around. Like the poster, we had been long time Sprint Customers, six years.  Well two years ago we ran into three simultaneous issues with Sprint, we were stonewalled on all three. Like the poster we spent a significant amount of time talking to Sprint employees, who gave conflicting assurances, all to no avail.

What I found particularly aggravating is the false image they portray in their media advertise. They are currently advertising how YOU control the plan and the plan does not control YOU. At the time of my issue, Sprint's webpage had a policy statement that the employees were ENPOWERED to solve your problems.  Yet when I needed a resolution, I was told "It is not our corporate policy".

Well two years later and long term customers are still getting screwed. Must be one of those undocumented features of your phone plan.


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Class Lawsuit Settlement[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#31)
by srynas on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 04:19:46 PM PDT

I received notice of a class action lawsuit against Sprint. http://www.sprintclassactionsettlement.com/Benefits.htm

As is typical of these lawsuits, I would receive a credit towards future Sprint billings, but no cash.  Of course the lawyers would receive cash, I assume.  Anyway, the settlement is useless to me since I am no longer a customer of Sprint.

Settlement option #2 is particularly egregious: "An immediate invoice credit of $15.00, upon their agreement to a two-year contract for Sprint wireless service". Who in their right mind would agree to a two year service agreement for $15.


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by Anonymous User on Fri May 12, 2006 at 07:09:11 AM PDT

As a sprint representative, i have called the customer and left my number to discuss her issue.

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Yeah..... right. But if you are a Sprint rep.....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 16, 2006 at 12:40:23 PM PDT

You should see to it that the customer gets the phone for free. With all the hoops they had to jump through just to keep from getting screwed, I would think you should pay them.

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My experiences with Sprint[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 12, 2006 at 07:42:08 AM PDT

I had a Samsung SPH-a460 as a second cell phone, since I wanted a phone for long distance (work pays for my regular phone, a Verizon Treo 650). Sprint had an excellent deal several years back at Christmas: 300 anytime minutes, unlimited nights and weekends, $30 a month. I signed up.

Fast forward several years. I got married, and gave my wife the phone so that she'd be able to contact me. My wife uses the phone for about 8 months, then loses it. I called Sprint, and went to a Sprint store, and while I could get a free phone, since I was out of contract, we couldn't keep the cell plan we had that was perfect, and would have to pay more. That wasn't an option, so I signed up with Verizon and got her a new phone, since I get a discount from work. Not quite as good a deal, but better than Sprint's new plan.

I call Sprint to cancel, and they send me to the cancellation department. The rep tells me that they are willing to honor my expired contract and send me a new phone! I was a bit miffed and told them I had tried this both at a Sprint store and a phone Sprint customer service representative and was told "Well, we have authority that the other divisions sometimes do not". I politely told her "That's too bad, because if your store or your phone representative had had that authority, I'd still be a Sprint customer. I found a plan competetive with you somewhere else, but if I had gotten what I asked for without having to call three people, I'd still be with you."

As advice to the original poster: Now would be a good time to call Sprint. Tell them you wish to cancel. Get forwarded to their cancellation department. Explain your problems, tell them customer service hasn't been able to work them out for you, and unless you can find someone who can, you're afraid you'll have to cancel your service with them. Watch how quickly they get things done. If I'd only known, I'd still have my wife's $30/month plan with a brand new phone. Ah, well...at least reception is better with the new one from Verizon.

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P.S.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 12, 2006 at 07:49:07 AM PDT

One detail I forgot to mention: I'd have been willing to pay to replace the phone we lost, provided we retained the old plan (the phone plan is always more important to me than the cost of the phone, as it should be for every informed consumer). I didn't expect something for nothing. Until I talked to the cancellation dept., this was not an option either.

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Cancellation Department honor expired contract[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by srynas on Fri May 12, 2006 at 08:16:14 AM PDT

At least you got further than we did. When we cancelled, the representative made no such offer. Before cancelling, we had requested from customer service a new local phone since we moved and we were told that we had to sign up for a new more expensive plan for two years.  Since this seemed unreasonable we cancelled.  

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by Anonymous User on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 11:15:50 PM PDT

I work in the only business account cancellation department in the U.S. for Sprint. As a employee of the "retention" dept we make a salary plus commission. The commission is based on "saves". How many accounts we save results in a extemely large commision. The reps will do basically whatever it takes to keep you as a customer. By sending out a free phone or getting you a "retention plan" is much cheaper than going out to get a new customer.....about $350.00 cheaper. Keep in mind that Sprint's in house policy is "yes we can" and "Don't say no!" So when a cust care rep tells you no.just ask about the "yes we can" and "don't say no" policy...........

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Retention Changes for Sprint[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#38)
by Anonymous User on Sat Aug 19, 2006 at 10:42:17 PM PDT

I was offered a deal for $300 to get a 700p Treo and a better plan (1000 min, PCS-PCS, 7pm, ulimited text/vision, etc.) for $62 a month. The rep said I could call back and get the deal, but did not give me a window for when to do this. I call back, and they say the deal is no longer valid because management has tightened up the reigns. Has anyone else heard of such a thing?? D

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Sprint Makes Customer a Blade Runner[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 12, 2006 at 11:46:24 AM PDT

I have spoken with customer about her billing issue and explained reasons why Sprint did not charge her more than what was agreed to, 199.99 for her new phone. customer is happy with resolution. Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

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What the heck does that mean?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by beamdriver on Fri May 12, 2006 at 12:10:59 PM PDT

Obviously you charged her more than was agreed to, you double charged her. As for me, I'm happy with my pay-as-you-go plan from T-Mobile and if it means I have to use an older phone without all the fancy, new features, I''m fine with that.

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Customer Should NOT be Satisfied[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 16, 2006 at 10:59:37 AM PDT

Don't you think Sprint owes customer MORE than was originally promised, given how much time she put into obtaining what should have been sent immediately and priced as expected! Like maybe a FREE PHONE!!! And what did Sprint learn about its system that caused these problems? If nothing, then isn't THAT idiotic, as there are clearly systemic problems at play, and they will surely recur!

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The beat goes on...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 12, 2006 at 05:35:54 PM PDT

Nearly 4 years ago, I had 2 phones with Sprint. One had 6 months left on its contract, the other had 18. Going to work for a telco which owns a large portion of another large cell provider...with whom I'd been happy at another time...I qualified for the employee discount. At that point, a friend of ours was in short term need of a phone, and, as such, we offered her our 6-month-left phone. She didn't need as high priced a plan as we had, so I tried to get the plan reduced. Sprint told me that they no longer had a plan that was "compatible with my contract", and that, if I wished to change my plan, I'd either have to agree to a new/extended contract, or terminate my contract and pay the early termination fee. This, after I'd been assured, over and over again, that my contract was for the service, itself, and that I could change my plan at any time prior to the next billing cycle, and it would go into effect. After going round and round with customer care, our friend eventually agreed to take the phone with the current price plan. In the meantime, I cancelled the phone with 18 months left on it (better to pay them $100 in penalty than $900 over the life of the contract), and got my wife a phone with provider, with me. As to Sprint? Never again!!!

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So you're a mature adult, but...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Sun May 14, 2006 at 07:17:00 PM PDT

...you didn't *know* this was going to happen? Come on!

IMHO, this is *exactly* how business is done these days: Get hold of a credit card and hit it so hard with unjustified charges that it will make your head spin. Check out ANY consumer-oriented web site... you'll see. No ethics, anywhere.

You should have used a one-time credit card. Easy.

Failing that, you should have pursued a chargeback with your credit card company. Easy.

Also, a 5% discount for  two-year contract? Sounds dangerous. I've read that TracFone does a good job, at least you pay as you go.

You got lucky, I see, since your problem was resolved.

Andy

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Business as usual[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Mon May 15, 2006 at 01:14:31 PM PDT

This is why I don't have a credit card.

People like me are why there's a constant ratcheting up of pressure to get a credit card, from junk credit card offer snail-mail to all kinds of mail-order and online businesses that won't do business with you unless you climb in bed with either a credit card company or (worse) Paypal.

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The worst part of this....[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by CowboyinBRLA on Tue May 16, 2006 at 10:37:48 AM PDT

Sprint says it's "solved the customer's problem", but nothing--NOTHING--can repay her for the untold numbers of hours spent trying to resolve the problem; for the short-term loss of available credit caused by Sprint's malfeasance; for the stress and aggravation caused by dealing with such incompetent twits.

The proper thing for Sprint to do would be to offer her the phone as a courtesy, or to give her a month or two's service free. What really pisses me off is "Customer Service" reps thinking that because the customer, after tons of fighting and aggravation, FINALLY gets what she paid for, at the price Sprint agreed to originally, everything is "okay".

Well, it's NOT okay, even if the customer has been bullied into thinking it is. Even knowing that Sprint finally "solved" the problem, I wouldn't use them for anything after this horror story. Ever.

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Response to The worst part of this....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 16, 2006 at 11:01:43 AM PDT

I agree with you. I was in a restaurant the other day. When I went to pay the clean up crew worked so fast and efficiently that they cleaned up half my lunch and the newspaper I hadn't paid for yet but the owner agreed to give me for free. So what the owner did was give me the whole lunch again free AND aNOTHer free newspaper. You can be sure I'll be going back to that restaurant again and again. Thank you, Stewart's Root Beer.

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