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A EULA Edited to Help the Customer

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 01:45:29 PM PDT

I guess I must be losing my edge in my old age. After all, earlier this week I published a story that had more kudos for Costco than gripes about other retail stores, and today I'm writing about a surprisingly good EULA from a software developer. But I can't help but agree with the reader who sent me the license agreement for JGsoft's EditPad Pro that seems written in a way that, rather than taking away usage rights, actually gives the product more value for the customer.


Our recent discussions about licensing the machine or the user led the reader to point out how JGsoft deals with that issue in its EditPad Pro text editor. "The folks at JGsoft have gotten it right as far as EULAs are concerned," the reader wrote. "Basically, they say use the software with either licensing model, one machine or one user, but not both. Finally, a have-it-your-way EULA."

The EditPad Pro EULA, which I've posted in our EULA Library here on the Gripe Wiki, explains it this way:

"If a single user license was bought, the Licensee has the option of installing the Software on a single machine possibly used by one or more persons, or installing the Software on several machines used exclusively by a single person. Any combination of these options, or installing the Software on a network server, is not permitted."

The reader points out that JGsoft on its website makes it quite explicit that its purpose is to provide a completely portable license for those customers who need it. "All this makes it easy for you to put EditPad Pro in a removable medium, such as a floppy or CD, and carry it with you wherever you go," the JGsoft website states. "You can use it on other people's computers without leaving any trace on their hard disks. As long as you are the only user and you do not install the software on other people's computers, this is perfectly acceptable under the EditPad Pro license agreement."

That's certainly an unusual attitude for a software company adopt. And there are some other things the EditPad Pro EULA says that I think can be commended. For the most part, it steers clear of the worst disclaimers of express warranties and limitations on use. And, with my long-standing interest in how licenses and software bugs interact, I was intrigued with this section on how the company handles bug fix releases:

"When errors are found in the Software, the Vendor will release a new version of the Software that no longer contains those errors a reasonable amount of time after the Vendor is given an accurate description of those errors. Which amount of time is reasonable will depend on the complexity and severity of the errors. The Vendor will mention the release on the Web Site and, at the Vendor's option, directly contact the Licensee to announce the new release. The Licensee can then, at their option, upgrade to the latest version or to continue to use the older version the Licensee already has. In either case, no payment to the Vendor is required. In the latter case, the Licensee will no longer be entitled to technical support until the Licensee has upgraded to the latest version."

You won't find many license agreements that acknowledge customers have a right to bug fixes for free. Of course, the JGsoft EULA is not completely without its faults. It's much longer and complex than it really needs to be, and it gets particularly confusing to no good end while trying to explain its policies regarding distribution of its evaluation version. Like so many EULAs, its ban on reverse engineering activities would only seem to limit fair use rights rather than code stealing. And, given the license's liberal stance on using a single license on different machines, it's hard to understand why it doesn't allow multi-user licenses to be used in concurrent fashion.

But, then again, maybe I'm just nitpicking to prove I haven't turned into a total Pollyanna. The important thing to get out of this is the fact that there really are software publishers, albeit mostly small ones, who try to give customers a fair shake with their license agreements. We've seen evidence of this before while we were developing the FEULA, and readers have posted a few other examples in the EULA Library in the last few weeks. So while we don't want to lose our edge when it comes to criticizing the many outrageous terms still to be found in most EULAs, let's keep in mind those vendors in the real world who demonstrate that a more balanced approach is viable.

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Bug fixes[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Jarulf on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 12:00:18 AM PDT

>You won't find many license agreements that >acknowledge customers have a right to bug fixes
>for free.

Why should they? Typically any sensible consumer sale law gives you the right to have a product error or defect fixed (free of charge). Actually, you can, in many countries at least, go to the SHOP or wereever you bought it, for the fix. How they then deal with it is up to them. So why should a additional contract have to acknowledge something that is allready in the law, expcet possibly as information?

My personal opinion is that just because something is "a little bit less worse than most" does not make it good. The whole EULA issue in total is a mess and doesn't at all follow in line with typical consumer sale laws or contract laws in relation to sales and in many cases doesn't have anything even remotedly to do with copyright which usually is used as the reason why they are needed to start with.

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by JGsoft on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 12:51:33 AM PDT

There are two reasons for reiterating the customer's right for defect-free products (or money back):

1. Most EULAs disallow it.  Even if the law overrides such EULAs (it doesn't in Thailand, where JGsoft is based), it doesn't hurt to remind the customer that our company does want to provide good customer service.

2. Many consumer protection laws *require* merchants to clearly state consumer's rights.

The key purpose of this section of our EULA is to instill confidence in prospective buyers, to encourage them to buy our product instead of buying a competing product, not to mention using a freeware or pirate alternative.

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by Jarulf on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 02:56:16 AM PDT

>1. Most EULAs disallow it.

That doesn't nessecarilly make it a requirement for you to start writing the opposite though.

>Even if the law overrides such EULAs (it doesn't
>in Thailand, where JGsoft is based),

The important is not were a company is located, the important is the laws of were it is sold. Sure, if you only sell in Thailand or only over the net, then it might matter but not otherwise.

Still, are you saying that in Thailand, there is no law requiring a seller to fix faulty products they sell? Do note the difference between seller and manufacturer also, typically in most countries the seller is the one that has to fix it, they then handle the issue with the manufacturers or from whoever they bought it from. I doubt Thailand has no laws regulating faulty products sold, but who knows.

>it doesn't hurt to remind the customer that our
>company does want to provide good customer
>service.

True, but is the only way to remind your customers to force them into a contract that turns out having a huge part of it as just marketing information about how good you are? If one indeed take the example of Thailand, will they only have good customer service if the customer agree to a big contract, possibly make restrictions in other areas?

>2. Many consumer protection laws *require*
>merchants to clearly state consumer's rights.

Please note the difference between merchants and manufacturer (which is only the same if you buy directly from the manufacturer). Considering the typical EULA does not at all tell all the rights of the consumer I fail to see how this requirement is fullfilled if it is indeed a requirement. Further, borrowing inside lenghty contracts is NOT "clearly stating". Further, puting it inside a contract is hardly the way to inform either.

Why not slap on a big sticker with text saying you do indeed follow all consumer sales (and other) laws? And if you go further, state that also in an easy to see and read way. THAT would be a way to show that you are good and possibly better than others and something I might be impressed with.

Please note that I have direct experience with either your company or your EULA, I was just commenting on the information of the original article which expressed surprise to see "acknowledgement of consumer rights" in a contract (and now to what you wrote), perhaps you do indeed have such a big sticker with information on your products or are great in other ways.

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