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Wondering About Maintenance Plus Insurance

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 03:23:47 AM PDT

As we know, software companies feel perfectly justified in annually charging 15 to 20 percent of a corporate customer's original license costs for maintenance and support. (Unless the software company is Microsoft, of course, in which case they feel justified in charging a lot more for maintenance, and forget about the support.) But customers have to wonder just what it is they are paying for when, on top of the annual maintenance, they are also expected to take out license insurance.


A reader was already looking somewhat askance recently at his annual maintenance and support bill for the Wonderware industrial automation software his company uses when he noticed the following in the boilerplate printed on the invoice:

"Lost or stolen software licenses incur replacement costs of 80% of original purchase price. We suggest that you insure them against theft, loss and damage."

Since he's already paying a hefty chuck of the original purchase price for maintenance every year, should he really have to pay 80 percent if there's an accidental loss? "Seems pretty burdensome, doesn't it?" the reader wrote. "I'm not even sure what percentage of our original cost this charge represents, but it seems especially wrong to put this on an annual bill."

It's doubtful this kind of thing is limited to Wonderware publisher Invensys Systems, but I think we all can and should wonder along with the reader just why the license insurance the company recommends should be necessary. All too many software companies deliver precious little for their steep annual maintenance and support charges, since they usually find a way to require a whole new set of licensing fees for any significant release or even bug fixes. It seems that the least they could do is replace lost, stolen, or damaged licenses without cost for those who already paying for maintenance. After all, when you think about it, maintenance really is supposed to be a form of insurance for the customer. If it's not, what is it?

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Stolen license[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by nytmare on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 06:32:06 AM PDT

I thought a license was a contract -- impossible to steal. If you are paying "maintenance" fees, then you have an ongoing relationship and recorded proof of ownership. Both parties would have to lose all their records in order for a license to be considered "lost".

If they are talking about theft of the little piece of paper with your number on it, replacing that should only be a few bucks. (A replacement driver's license, for example, is 10 dollars in my state.)

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Not a real concern[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 07:03:47 AM PDT

Wonderware offers their licensing in a rather straightforward file (You can copy it). So, encourage your client to make backups and move on. I think what you're reading is the more lawyer-approved verbiage.

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by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 11:12:07 AM PDT

I am in no way affiliated with Wonderware but I used to purchase and manage Wonderware licenses for my company. In the past when you purchased Wonderware you would get a sleeve of CD's that had every software module/option available. What this meant was you could load the software on as many PC's as you wanted. However..... You would also get a way to activate the software options that you had paid for. This used to be a hardware "dongle". Then went to a disk activation method. (I am not sure of the method Wonderware is using today.) The license was always tied to the software activation method, not the sleeve of CD's that had all the software on it. This way you could transfer the license to whatever PC you needed to have the software activated on. The problems came if the dongle or activation disk got lost or damaged. A damaged dongle was easy. Send it in for a free replacement. If the computer crashed with the activation key loaded on it you had to call Wonderware to reset the activation disk. Wonderware never failed to do this (and it was not an uncommon occurance). This trust by Wonderware I am sure led to some abuse by customers (i.e. hey I lost my activation, get it reset then load it on a second computer). That was a way for a customer to get a free license of the software. This software is not cheap. The full-blown development version was over $6k 3 years ago. In my opinion this clause is a way for Wonderware to protect themselves from abuse of their trust. In my past experience, if you had a long-time working relationship with Wonderware they would work with you to ensure you had working copies of the software you paid for. I have to believe if Wonderware has changed this policy it's because they were losing too much money from dishonest customers.

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It's not new[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 02:37:47 PM PDT

I'm a former WW employee. This is not a new policy. It's been in effect for at least five years. I never understood the need or reason for it. Having said that, I know of no instance of it having been enforced.

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Industrial Software Prices[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 12:30:10 PM PDT

Another issue with this type of software is the price and volumes Invensys does. It's specialized software, sold at prices to match. It's not MS Office for $399, it's Wonderware for $4000 to $10,000 per license. For that price they can keep track of who bought what.

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Promoting good business practices[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by bilyji on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 06:55:10 AM PDT

If that is the sum total of the text regarding insurance, I don't see anything wrong with it. They aren't necessarily promoting their own insurance program, only stating that like any asset, expensive software should be insured against lost and damage. You wouldn't expect Dell to replace a monitor that an employee wandered off with, would you? In the case of software that is activated by a hardware key, it is appropriate for them to say "If you lose your key, you're not going to get a free one from us." It is suprising how many companies I've dealt with that don't insure software, or make necessary back-ups of license paperwork or files.

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Thankfully someone has a clear, unemotional head![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:03:17 AM PDT

Bilyji is absolutely spot on. (1) The Wonderwall license structure is specialized and NOT "common", and therefore (2) the license clause is NOT found in most products' license agreements, (3) the clause as written and practiced it NOT encouraging or requiring the buyer to pay additional fees TO Invensys Systems, and (4) unequivocally it IS the responsibility of the buyer to properly manage ALL of their assets - including maintaining adequate insurance. So, what is the problem?

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Most license agreements specifically state that you have a non-exclusive right to use the software and that you do NOT own it. So how do you insure something you don't own???

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This is totally absurb. I can't believe that one has to pay a sum up to 80% of the original just to get a replacement. They might as well buy a new one or go for another alternative. And yes, I do agree the part of charging far too much for maintenance. If the gadget is going to cost so much to maintain. They better do release the product in tip top condition, which is usually not the case.
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Loss of License[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by glenn354 on Tue Mar 07, 2006 at 06:45:54 PM PDT

Don't most companies have insurance for loss or theft? It would seem that you could insure the software through your own insurance company for a lot less than 80% of the original cost.

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