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Dell Gets a Failing Grade in School

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 12:44:13 AM PDT

What's a reasonable failure rate for new desktop computers? And if a computer does fail while it's less than a month old, what kind of turnaround time should the customer expect? While he doesn't know the answers to those questions, one reader is rather certain that what he's experienced with two recent batches of Dell desktops hasn't made the grade.


"Over the last two years, the high school where I am the technology coordinator purchased 15 Dell desktop computers," the reader wrote. "Within a month of receiving them -- in one case within twenty minutes -- four of the computers crashed. Dell refused to replace them, and instead insisted that our school district's tech support work with them as they shipped one part at a time. The shortest time for repair was seven work days. Two computers took a month to repair. These were lemons that Dell refused to replace. When you buy a new computer and it stops working properly within hours, you expect a new one to replace it. Also, isn't that an extremely high percentage of problems for new computers?"

While this experience was certainly enough to teach the reader his lesson, the public school district he works for has an exclusive contract with Dell. "At the end of this last school year, we replaced an old reading lab with new Dells that we are leasing," the reader wrote. "Of the twenty new computers, two stopped working within a day. Dell refuses to do anything until I run some system diagnosis in the BIOS settings. I don't have time to do their troubleshooting. So these two brand new lemons were just sitting in the classroom."

One out of six desktops failing within the first month certainly seems like a failure rate few schools would be happy with. What really upsets the reader though is the long periods of time it takes to get each system fixed, particularly when he feels Dell should just replace them with new systems that work. "The time between when they are removed and repaired has never been less than ten days," the reader wrote. "I have an issue with paying for new computers that don't work from the start. I don't work for Dell -- I work for the school district. I want new computers, not lemons that need me to help Dell figure out the problem."

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There was a time[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by TonyK on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 04:11:26 AM PDT

when Dell not only produced superior produdcts, it had world class support.

Then the bean counters got in charge. Moved all consumer customer support off-shore and for time even corporate customer support. When the business folks (large customers) screamed, Dell was wise enough to bring that back. Yet consumer customer support still lives off-shore.

As Dell pushed itself to a $60B (USD) company, it looked every way it could to cut costs and increase profit. I know as I survived six layoffs. In the end Dell no longer called them layoffs. It called them performance adjustments. When you see people you respect and admire being shown the door, you know performance probably was not the issue.

I wish the company well. I also wish they would return to their roots and do what they know how to do best: build good computers backed by a good warranty and customer service. That may not be realistic though as the company continues to grow as it did in the old days but this is a new market, a new world.

Peace,

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Business Support Off shore[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#34)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 01, 2006 at 08:01:41 AM PDT

I called in several times yesterday to have the hard drive on my Optiplex replaced. I called 6 times and they were all routed overseas. I think the only business support now left in the USA is the Precision systems, although when you're on Dell's site it says that Optiplex technical support is North American based.

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Exclusive contract with Dell? Good luck.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 06:28:01 AM PDT

Dell has fallen badly from grace, like Symantec. I will never buy any computer from Dell. It sells cheap things that fail easily and refuse to replace them. I have no sympathy for them, unlike the first poster. I hope Dell die a horrible death.

Who in the school district is/are responsible for this "exclusive contract" with Dell, I wonder? Should those people be held responsible as well?

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Troubleshooting[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 08:30:22 AM PDT

My biggest problem with Dell is the over the phone troubleshooting. Though I have not had the extent of a problem with the hardware you have, when I do call, they require troubleshooting. I don't buy enough to make it worth a Dell exclusive contract, so they require troubleshooting over the phone. I ask: Can't you make it a part of the contract to reduce the necessary troubleshooting? I know Dell offers this, but they require a certain # of systems and it costs more!

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Not the experience we have had...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 08:42:59 AM PDT

I work for a school district, as part of a small IT department. As a department, we support approximately 500-700 Dell computers (this includes workstations, servers, and laptops).

While I agree that Dell's temporary outsourcing of business-level phone support was at one time abysmal, to put it mildly (the resulting backlash led them to move business-based support back to the US), I have not had the overall problems that the above poster has had. As long as we have had US-based phone support, the problems we do have are fixed very expeditiously. I get parts within 24 hours of problem diagnosis, they are shipped overnight.

I would be interested to know the models of Dell computers the original poster purchased. It is known that several models (primarily produced a few years back) had leaking capacitor issues on their mainboards, the result of the capacitor manufacturer, not Dell. Dell has quickly replaced the mainboards on the few machines we have had that experienced this problem.

By the way, if you are a technology coordinator, it is your JOB to troubleshoot; that is why your school district pays you. Nobody's quality control is perfect. Admittedly, the defect rate appears high for you, but if I said "I don't have time" to troubleshoot the kind of problem you're experiencing, I wouldn't have a job for long. Doesn't seem like a lot of work to go into Dell Diagnostics and run the unattended tests on those two machines, allowing you to walk away and do other work while the units diagnose themselves

P.S. I have also found that many school districts cheaped out on the support end by not purchasing gold-level support from Dell. While standard support works adequately, gold-level support offers reduced phone-queue times and higher-level technicians.

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Torn[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by foxyshadis1 on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 08:15:40 PM PDT

I can't speak for the submitter, but as a one-person IT Department for a mid-sized company I know the pain of being spread between a dozen major and minor problems all the time, with more propping up as old ones get fixed. If it's not an immediate priority it goes in the closet until an hour or two shows up, by which time you've forgotten, and when you do remember there is no time. I've been guilty of sitting on something that would irritate me, like this, at times as well.

Oddly enough, software bugtracking your life makes adminning saner.

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Failing Dell Computers[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#33)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 06:40:03 PM PDT

As the poster of the original comment about Dell, I know that one aspect of my job is troubleshoot, which I gladly do. But I resent having to troubleshoot brand new or almost brand new computers. In the first place, as our network has grown, I am swamped with serious problems and the usual time-wasters like the teachers and counselors that forget their password, for which I provide assistance. When we receive a product that is defective, how do you figure that part of my job is to use my personal cell phone and run some basic frontline troubleshooting for Dell?

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Dell Quality[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 10:37:11 AM PDT

We've never experienced the problems you have and we are purchasing new systems throughout the year. In addition, our business supports a local school with application development, networking, computer setup and support. No problem with their Dell products either. It would be interesting to hear the Dell side of this story. Ed, get to work!

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No problems with new Dells here[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 12:41:38 PM PDT

The government agency I work for hasn't had any problems with new Dells for a couple of years now. Of course this is because we stopped purchasing Dells a few years back. We've found there are plenty of companies out there that will give us as good a deal as Dell, if not better. These companies also understand they have to support us to keep our business, something Dell seems to have forgotten.

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On the other hand[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#28)
by whitefang on Mon Oct 16, 2006 at 01:35:13 PM PDT

We buy batches of 15-30 computers at a time. Several batches have been problematical. The last two batches have had failing memory problems. Of the two batches I have in mind, 11 of 18 had to have their memory replaced anywhere from 20 minutes to 3 months of starting up. That batch is less than 6 months old. The second batch has only had 3 memory failures I'm aware of. Of course, it's only 2 months old... To a lesser extent we've had failed mobos and failed hard drives. Frankly, if I were making the purchasing decisions, I'd put a stop to all Dell orders two years ago. That's when quality problems in Dell became noticable problems here.

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Dell's Grade: Homework[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by RichardatDELL on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 02:58:17 PM PDT

Dell takes customer service issues like this very seriously. As you probably know, we are investing $150 million to improve the customer experience and fix issues like this. We have already greatly reduced call wait times and service turnaround times, and continue to work tirelessly to make needed changes. We are not perfect, but we are improving steadily. We'd like to try to help this customer get the answers and help needed. Wondering if Ed could facilitate putting us directly in touch with the customer, if they approve, so we could sort this matter out. We will be standing by, ready to assist.

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Improvements[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Fushigi on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 06:34:29 AM PDT

Richard,

While reducing call wait times is admirable, emphasizing reductions in service turnaround times to many people simply means the support center staff are eager to end the call as quickly as possible. Often times this comes at the expense of truly solving the customer's issue. You can scan the gripeline for articles about lots of vendors whose support groups seem to want to maximize throughput at the apparent expense of actually solving problems.

Dell (and pretty much all vendors who value their reputation) would be wise to work on post-support surveys and grade their support staff on how their customers perceive the support incident and not on how many calls per hour their support center processes.

One area where I think Dell does a very good job is in the gold corporate support arena. My experiences there have been great. Very short wait times and qualified techs who assume I know what I'm doing. And the techs are empowered to fix the problem, including authorizing parts shipments and whatnot.

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Re: Dell's Grade: Homework[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Ed Foster on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 08:31:05 AM PDT

Thanks for the offer to help. I will pass it on to the reader. -- Ed Foster

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Lousy support [ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#21)
by SAPrinter on Wed Oct 11, 2006 at 10:36:57 AM PDT

I work on several systems for clients. I always advise against Dell. Every time I see one come in the door for repair I cringe. I can trouble shoot a system in a few minutes. If I determine it needs a new MoBo why should I have to sit on hold while Panji in India waits for his computer to feed him the next troubleshooting step, one that I took before calling to try to get a part. For crying out loud just sell me the part. In cases where I get the customer's system while under warranty it is even worse. Dell needs to treat professional IT folks with respect, that includes our time. Wasting time to trouble shoot a problem you have already found is a waste of everyone's time. If you ID yourself as a pro they should shoot you to someone that can get you what you need without the hour or more required to get the parts you need.
Dennis Ewing Ewing and Sons Printing San Antonio, TX
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Customer Service[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
by tscoff on Sun Oct 15, 2006 at 07:27:23 AM PDT

If you're serious about fixing your customer service, hire a few dozen people and give them broken computers and have them call in for in warranty support.  Fix the problems that they find when they call in:

1. Long hold times
2. Being transferred from one department to another to another to being disconnected
3. Clueless techs on the phone
4. Techs on the phone who don't speak English
5. Extremely long repair turn around times, many times being caused by the practice of sending out a repair technician who replaces a single item and then leaves requiring another phone call to tech support if that item was not the defective one.

Dell isn't alone, the entire computer industry is guilty of these problems.

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Not exactly[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#30)
by Garminski on Tue Oct 17, 2006 at 11:22:16 AM PDT

The first people you need to train are the supervisors.  Have them experience your "gauntlet of fun".  I have found that workers overall want to do a good job but are quite often stopped by stupid policies and procedures put in place by clueless supervisors.  Plus it is up to the supervisors who they hire.  If you want qualified people the people doing the hiring have to want to hire qualified people (they also need the budget).

These problems aren't just limited to Dell or even the computer industry.  IMO customer service in many industries is lacking and getting worse.

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I don't think so [ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#32)
by barms on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 03:04:13 PM PDT

Richard - You say you care, but I don't believe you! I just got off the phone with Jackie and canceled my account with you because it took over 15 hours to give you correct address for my bill. If it takes that long to correct a simple problem, I would've hate to seen how I would be treated if I had problem with my computer. As for my wasted time because of Dells stupidity, you offered me nothing to remain a customer. I will never purchase a computer from Dell again!!!!

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Warranty[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 12:40:19 PM PDT

Doesn't Dell still have their 30 day no questions asked return policy any more?

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Dell's 30 day return policy[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Stu on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 08:01:32 PM PDT

I had a very bad experience with this policy. They flat refused to follow the policy - giving me one lame excise after another - even though the policy was clearly stated on their web site - and still is.
I wish I could bill them for the time and aggravation I went through before they finally gave me what I was entitled to.
I only got satisfaction when I was able to reach an American Customer Care person, who actually cared.
The problem is that they insulate themselves from actual meaningful contact with their customers. This is evident at every level, from phone menues that don't cover your questions, to foreign script readers who have no leeway to use their minds to solve problems. It's very difficult to find someone to have a productive problem solving conversation with.
I'm having an issue with so called "customer care" right now, that has been dragging on for almost two weeks.
By the way, I've been dealing with Dell since 1987 - when it was still called PCs Limited.

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This policy worked for us...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#26)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 05:56:26 AM PDT

Just a counterpoint (not disagreeing with the original poster), but we ordered two Precision workstations, and then found afterwards they did not come in tower configuration, but full desktop only (we were not told this at time of order). We sent them back successfully under the 30-day satisfaction guarrantee, and purchased the next model up. I can't say whether the original poster's experience or mine is more common, only that it can work out either way.

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Returning a system under the 30 day policy[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#35)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 01, 2006 at 08:09:16 AM PDT

If you need to return a system under the 21 or 30 day policy they may try and give you some trouble, but I've noticed if there is some sort of defect they'll just give you an RA # right away, and then you won't be charged with the restocking fee. You could just unplug the ATX power cord to the motherboard or something and say the system won't start anymore and you want to return it.

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Let's be real[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 12:45:39 PM PDT

I'm sorry, I have no sympathy. He probably bought the cheapest machines he could buy, so Dell makes about zero margin on the machines. So now he wants to trade them for a brand new one without even spending a few minutes on the phone prove to Dell that something's actually broken? I'll bet he wants Dell to pay the shipping both ways too. If you want highest-quality support, don't buy from the lowest-cost provider. David Beaver

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Let's be real.... really[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 02:18:04 PM PDT

It doesn't matter what he paid or whether or not it is a cheap model. I don't know too many people who request to pay for equipment that doesn't work out of the box... or for at least a month or two...

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Dell's Grade[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 12:56:09 PM PDT

You say your school system has an exclusive contract with Dell, were you part of the negotiating team putting the contract together, or at least reviewing it before agreeing to it? If not you also have a problem within your school system and should stack the failed computers on the desk of the individual who signed the exclusive contract. Some one needs to review the contract and if you are given more rights than phone support wants to admit to, you need to call your contract representative at Dell and get him involved. Dell may not treat individual customers with a lot of respect, but corporate type customers who meet and deal with each other on a regular basis are not a group even Dell wants to get upset.

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re: dell[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by VonSkippy on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 01:06:58 PM PDT

Who cares - it's a public school.  They're way toooo busy with their in-house politics, budget mis-handling, teacher in-fighting, after school programs, and babysitting to have a clue about IT or how to make it work.

Anyone stupid enough to sign an exclusive tech contract deserves the crap they get.  Maybe they'll get fired and flow down the food chain ladder (and work in local government).

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Dell Quality and Service[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 01:13:36 PM PDT

I am mystified by the comments in this story. I also work for a school, albeit a private one, and we have been using Dell computers for more than ten years. We currently have over 300 Dell computers and 18 servers. Our experience with Dell has been exactly the opposite of the fellow who posted the complaint. While there have been some problems with the motherboards on most of the GX270 computers (generally bad capacitors), any time we encounter a problem the Dell service people respond quickly and efficiently. We never have to wait more than a day to have a replacement motherboard, drive or powersupply delivered and installed. I have been working in Information Systems for more than 18 years now and I have never dealt with a company with better serevice and support (and for that matter, initial product quality) than Dell. Yes, they sometimes do want you to perform some basic diagnostic work before shipping out parts and notifying installers, but this is not an unreasonable request to insure that what is shipped will actually correct the problem. By the way, in all of the time we have been buying from Dell, involving the purchase of well over a thousand systems, we have only had two systems arrive DOA.

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My company's experience...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by stevej2001 on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 02:47:33 PM PDT

My very large health care company bought 100,000 dell desktop computers in 2005. Our IT folks told me that just about 30,000 have failed. They've switched back to Compaq

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Refuse to sell Dell[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 08:00:54 PM PDT

I own a small consulting company. I signed up to be a Dell partner, because of customer demand. (I am also an HP partner. 2 years ago this Christmas I wrote to Ed about horrendous treatment for a pair of new HP laptops. Search on HP plays Grinch. While no vendor is immune to failure, I have avoided actually selling Dells. Now when customers ask to buy Dell, I advise them not to, I tell them why, and then I tell them that if they insist, they should contact Dell directly. (But, they should be prepared to fix hardware failures on their own.) I do this because even though it is Dell's warranty, it is my reputation for willfully selling equipment from a vendor with a poor track record. In my practice, I feel responsible for what I sell. If this school system were my client, I'd be the one sitting in their office, for free, to get this straightened out. Obviously, I can't afford to work for free, and I don't want to be Dell's front line support/repair staff, which is why I refuse to sell Dell.

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Dell's Failing Grades[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 11, 2006 at 05:44:24 AM PDT

Four weeks ago my laptop screen died. After a long call to tech support, they would not budge from their position that my in-home service contract did not actually mean in-home service (even tho they have been here twice before to replace the screen, and twice to replace the motherboard, so they know they have a problem) and insisted that I send the laptop to their service depot. Well, stupid me, I did, and it was returned in a week (that was nice), with a big footprint across the laptop screen. Further calls to tech support have revealed that their service depot is actually a third party and the machine must go back to it or it will cost Dell more money to get it repaired. I am obviously reluctant to hand it off to their Service Depot again, but my repeated requests for in-home service have simply resulted in their refusal to speak to me about any service at all. I paid for 4 years of in-home service and have 1 1/2 years left on the contract. The screen gets worse each time I turn on the computer, with a larger and larger portion simply greyed out. I have over 30 hours invested in phone time on this problem so far, with no end in sight.

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Unreliability[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by LasVegan on Wed Oct 11, 2006 at 03:03:37 PM PDT

The beancounters at work have gotten a lot of off-lease Dell's. My understanding is that they have been used for 6 months. Approximately 10% were DOA and the seller swapped them out. 10% dead after 6 months of use?? In the 9 months or so we have had them I'd say another 10% have died. IT management prefers them for being standard rather than the homebrews I used to build. (Most of the homebrews got stolen.) They feel that having the standardized machines helps--but what I built was just about standardized, I could be sure of picking up suitable replacement parts for anything other than the MB off the shelf in town.

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RE: Unreliability[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 12, 2006 at 08:01:47 AM PDT

Key-words here: off-lease.

Did these come directly from Dell, or from the lease agent? If your systems were new, I might find your story applicable to the situation, but if these systems came from the lease agent, they could easily be at fault for doing limited or no testing on machines that had been put through rough treatment by the lessee, having nothing to do with Dell.

By the way, in large organizations, standardization is KEY. If I have a three-year Dell warranty, I know I can get a replacement part of the exact kind via next-day air during that three years. If the mainboard you purchased for building your systems dies two years out, the chances of you getting a replacement with ease are limited. And of course, if you can't get an exact match, the software image you use may not work properly. I can only assume you're in a small business where it is acceptable to spend a day loading up a single system from scratch. When you've got hundreds of machines, this isn't an option. Standardization lets you swap out a part, reimage the machine, and quickly get on with business.

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Good enough, so far[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 12, 2006 at 04:26:46 AM PDT

I just bought my second Dell desktop. I was pretty impressed, I ordered it online on a Wednesday night, it arrived Friday morning. Wish they could do support like that! My only experience with support was on my 3 year old desktop. Power supply was bad, I knew this. Got involved in a live chat session with India. He went through his script, I played along until he had me opening the case and reseating boards. Then I went into just pausing and telling him "OK, I did that, same problem". When he finished his script, he dispatched home support. The guy was there within 48 hours and fixed the problem. Anyway, I have a 2 year old latitude issued by work, and an almost 4 YO desktop. Haven't had any other problems with them, so that was good enough to order another one...

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Don't PAY !!!!!![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 12, 2006 at 05:16:05 AM PDT

Our public school system (like most) has a procurement office. The office puts out bids on products, places orders, and pays the vendor. Like most school systems, they pay AFTER reciept of the product, and being a public buraucracy, there is usually a 30-60 (or even 90) day lag in payments. If several of the Dells fail in a short period of time, notify the procurement office (or who ever is in charge of paying vendors) and tell them NOT to pay for the defective computers. Dell is NOT in compliance with the contract if they deliver faulty product, and if they don't get paid, you can be sure they will be more pro-active in fixing the problems, and avoiding them in the future. If you don't get cooperation from the procurement office on this, go public. Perhaps the local school board would be interested in learning that the procurement office is readily paying for faulty merchandise.

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Expansion on 'batches' -- Also 'ping' RichardDELL[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
by whitefang on Mon Oct 16, 2006 at 02:14:56 PM PDT

A number of people here have posted either their 'onesies & twosies' experience or the large quantity purchasing experience. Our situation here is a little different. It is company policy to 'turn' 1/3 of all computers each year. We have two locations and no excess storage from more than about 15 computers at each location. The bottom line is that we purchase an average of 4 total batches of computers at different times each year. Some batches are all fine with an acceptable level of DOA and some batches simply stink. The reality is there appears to be quality control issues which effect different given batches at a time. Currently, memory seems to be the most effected component. Previously, it was Intel motherboards. And of course, the 'exploding caps' problem was an issue for nearly everyone. Though most people didn't realise it as most people didn't experience it until their PCs were out of warranty. I'm in the same position as the poster above who dis-recommends Dell because of concerns for his reputation. I don't sell computers. But many of my friends, neighbors, family and colleagues seek my opinion. When they ask about Dell, I open up a few Dell cases and point out where Dell has cut corners in terms of what they sell you and what you think you're buying. Base model Dells of all series are the some of the most limited computers around when thinking in terms of future expansion. This includes things like having room and connectors for two hard drives. I was forcably reminded of this at work last week. I have an Optiplex GX620. I have two 160G hard drives in it. I've runn low on room so I'd thought I'd pop in another hard drive. Ain't gonna happen. I now have a 320G hard drive which is waiting for an external case and an SATA to eSATA bracket. The case design, mobo, number of connectors on the PSU all contribute to very, very limited expandability. I also show how the very long and cozy relationship with Intel limits the buyers choices to only those things Intel can provide. 3rd party ideas in terms of innovation on mobos etc simply don't apply. SLI anyone? Crossfire? The _only_ saving grace for Dell at my company is that we always purchase with Gold support. That's the only thing which makes the service hassles acceptable to the techs. As I said earlier, if I had purchasing responsibility, Dell would not be on my list of allowed vendors. And just so that any Dellites don't feel persecuted, neither would HP/Compaq be there.

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Who would?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#31)
by tcsbiz on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 08:57:00 PM PDT

"...if I had purchasing responsibility, Dell would not be on my list of allowed vendors. And just so that any Dellites don't feel persecuted, neither would HP/Compaq be there."

Who would be on your list of preferred vendors?

Tom.

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Dell from Hell[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#37)
by Anonymous User on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 04:26:31 PM PDT

Purchased a Dell computer June 2006. On October 10, 2006, the computer just shut itseldf down. Called Dell, they want me to run BIOS - the computer doesn't run, start or anything - it is dead. I work on taking the thing apart via the phone for 1 hour and 15 min. Doesn't work. They send a tech out and he replaces the Motherboard. One week later, it does the same thing - dead. They send another tech out and replaces the Motherboard (again), the power supply and the processor. He walks out the door and it dies, again. I tell them to send me a new computer. Find out today (it's November 6, 2006 and I still have no computer) that they are sending me a "Refurbished" computer! What? Was on the phone for 1 hr and 30 min (I have a real job by the way)and get no response except sorry. Not acceptable. Horrible way to do business. I bought a new computer and I expect one back, I have a one year warranty and they tell me after 90 days its not valid? I need Michael Dell's email address - even his snail mail would be fine...I'm guessing he would be appalled at the way his company is being run - horrible service, horrible computers. As soon as I get this one, it's going right back and I will get a refund and walk into Best Buy and buy an HP or something I can bring back to the place I bought it....very sad.

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