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BellSouth DSL Savings May Be Just a Line

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Thu Oct 05, 2006 at 12:19:25 AM PDT

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. And a DSL line that works is worth any money-saving deals the phone company might offer you, as one BellSouth customer recently learned.


The reader wrote:

"When we moved to Florida 10 years ago, we had three phone lines put into the house by BellSouth -- a dialup for my wife, a dialup for me, and a voice line for everyone. Over the years my phone line became the DSL line, which I had through DSL Express. I installed a network, and all was good. Then I decided we didn't really need three phone lines any longer. This was the first mistake."

"I went onto the BellSouth website and the only line that qualified for their DSL was the one I was currently using for my DSL. So I called customer service and explained the situation, telling them I wanted to drop the phone number on my line and to transfer the voice line number to that line because it was the only one that passed the loop test. She said 'Sure, let me test that line...' When she came back on, she said that I qualified for their new 6.0 MEG service and if I got their complete package -- since we also use Cingular, which they bought -- we could actually save money. I said great, let's do it! Strike two."

"A few days letter the techs showed up to move the lines and switch the numbers. My DSL Express was still working once they made the switch. They came back a while later and said they had to fix something. Once fixed, my DSL stopped working. We called and BellSouth said my new DSL modem should arrive the next day and I would be up and running. I set us up on dialup for the interim. (My wife works from home setting up training sites for various companies on the web -- she was NOT a happy camper.) The next day our modem did NOT arrive, so we called. Oh, our order had been cancelled because the local switch was not provisioned for 6.0 DSL! Did we want the 'regular' service instead? Yes. 'OK, you'll receive your modem in 4-5 business days.' Now my wife was REALLY unhappy."

"The next day, our phone line is dead, so we call BellSouth again. 'Oh, yes, we show that you're moving and wanted this number disconnected!' So now my wife proceeds to explain what we ordered, versus what we got ... 'Uhhh, let me get my supervisor ... I'm sorry, ma'am, you can't have DSL, the switch in your area has no more free slots!'"

"So my wife said, all right -- cancel everything. I want it returned to the same condition as it was before you sold me a bill of goods that you can't deliver. They said they couldn't do that because the phone number they disconnected is no longer available. Fortunately, I hadn't yet gotten around to calling DSL Express to cancel my old DSL service. I just had to call them and have the service reset because the line was on a different phone number. Oh, and they had to come to the house to fix the wiring problems the phone company had caused. Apparently BellSouth installed a DSL/POTS splitter and pinched one of the wires. Did I mention that BellSouth also tried to make us pay for the first service call to the house when they switched the lines, and for the second service call to come straighten out the mess they made the first time? They finally did credit me for the service calls and we have two lines instead of three. And our DSL is working great -- but not with BellSouth."

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Business as usual at BellScam[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 05, 2006 at 01:36:44 PM PDT

"Did I mention that BellSouth also tried to make us pay for the first service call to the house when they switched the lines, and for the second service call to come straighten out the mess they made the first time?"

This sounds like it is the standard operating procedure, for BellSouth to try to rip-off customers with promises of one price, then rob them blind once they are bound under contract.

I saw advertisements for DSL Light for 24.95 per month. I called to sign up, and they would tell me that I could get the service only if I paid more than $100.00 per month. They instead wanted to sell me a bundle including their long distance, local and cellular service. I nieither needed nor wanted any of these services.

The rep offered me the DSL light (256K down) for $35.00 per month without the bundle. I went with it because it was still less than the offerings from the cable company.

I got my first bill for $49.00 per month, plus another several dollars for taxes. Plus $25.00 per month for modem rental. When I called to explain that I never heard about or agreed to any of these charges when I placed the order, the rep told me that if I didn't pay, I would loose my Internet service, be billed for late fees and early termination charges, and then get my credit report defaced.

Then three months later I got a letter in the mail from BellSouth explaining how the cost for the service would be going up AGAIN! This time, it was not a tax or government fee, they just wanted more money. The letter included a phone number that I could call to discuss the new charges, but only during a limited time in the middle of the day when I was at work and would not be able to call. But they still expect me to honor the rest of the agreement for a year of service.

Then They started billing me for long distance service that I never asked for...

I don't expect the service from the phone company to be perfect. Everyone makes mistakes, and sometimes it just takes a few minutes on the phone to correct an honest mistake. But BellSouth is using the annual contracts needed for DSL service to trap the customers into pay rates MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH as I was paying the cable company for faster service.

I can't believe a lawyer hasn't hit them with a class action lawsuit for these billing scams.

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I got the same letter!!![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 05, 2006 at 01:43:59 PM PDT

I got the same letter!!! I got high-speed online frmo Bellsouth when they said it would be 24.94 monthly. Then after three months they sent a letter saying the price is going up. It sounds like they do this to everybody. Lock them into a contract, then raise the prices!!

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Price hikes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 05, 2006 at 11:23:16 PM PDT

Wait a tick, I thought being locked into a contract also locked in the price for the duration of the contract?

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Depends[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 05:04:28 AM PDT

>I thought being locked into a contract also
>locked in the price for the duration of the
>contract?

It depends on how the contract is written.

A common practice for cable and DSL access is to offer an introductory price that is good for three months, until the end of the year, whatever, and then the price goes to the normal rate. It sounds like this may be what happened here, even if the customers didn't realize that was what they were doing.


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According to the ads[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 08:26:29 AM PDT

In the ads they've be running on my local tv in Nashville, TN, they make a point to mention that the rate is not an introductory rate. Whether they ran those ads in this area during that time I cannot say of course, but they are makning a point of mentioning that now. That said, I've called them Bell$loth for years. Slow and expensive. :)

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Won't get fooled again[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 06, 2006 at 09:06:14 AM PDT

I saved the letter from BellSouth, and looked for it again when I read this story. Mine says,

"This letter is to inform you that beginning in April BellSouth will charge a regulatory cost recovery fee of $2.97 per month for FastAccess DSL service. This regulatory cost recovery fee is not a tax of charge imposed by a government entity.

The fee will help to offset the increased cost BellSouth incurs in providing FastAccess DSL service."

I cut out the non-relevant parts, but the rest of the language tries to confuse the reader into thinking this is the USF tax from the government, and is going to be used to provide phone service to rural areas and schools. But it's all double-speak. When read carefully, the letter simply says the rates are going up because BellSouth wants the money, and the consumer has to pay for the duration of the contract.

By the way, when I signed up for the service with BellSouth originally, I did ask what the market price was for the servcice, which was 49.95 per month at the time. This was not an introductory period that was expiring.

Interestingly, for the year after I got the letter, i still saw billboards and TV ads telling people that the DSL service was 49.95. But this is simply false advertising, as it is actually over 50.00, but there is no way to find out until the customer is already obligated under contract.

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Surcharges - coming and going.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 01:36:01 PM PDT

I am a Verizon DSL customer and got the same letter. There was a bit of an uproar, tho, and they sent out a subsequent letter announcing that they would not be implementing the charge, after all. A good case of large amount of customer complaints effecting an actual change in the business. Very nice.

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Fraud[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 11:08:50 PM PDT

If the customers "didn't realize" (many/most, rather than a handful, anyway) then ipso facto they have been deceptively advertising.

All these BellShite shenanigans seem like ripe fodder for submitting to cross your State AG's desk. Falsely advertised prices are certainly worthy of their attention, and sneaky contract terms deserve small claims lawsuit and/or AG attention too.

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Read the contract-[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 18, 2006 at 10:47:18 AM PDT

Most of them say the company can modify any part of it at will and there's nothing the customer can do about it.

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Ick[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 18, 2006 at 09:59:34 PM PDT

If I ran the judiciary, the first decree I'd make is that all such "changeable at any time" terms are henceforth unenforceable as against public policy. The contract enforceable is the last one the customer actually signed, or the plain language reading of the prominent labeling if they never signed anything. (Which means "LIFETIME WARRANTY*!!! *lifetime means lifetime of the unit; when it stops working the warranty expires" would be enforced as a genuine lifetime warranty. SMC take note.)

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Bell South[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by pearlieN on Wed Oct 25, 2006 at 08:54:43 AM PDT

It might be that I am paranoid but since Bell South has gone into the DSL business, I can't seem to keep my son's computer connected. I have done every tweak available but it still drops the line after about 15 minutes. He has had Bell South Dial Up for over 10 years and never had this problem till they started trying to sell him DSL service. Strange??

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AG time[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 25, 2006 at 12:41:12 PM PDT

Not very strange. An obvious explanation comes immediately to my mind, at any rate. The sort of explanation that your state attorney general might find interesting, as a matter of fact.

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BellSouth[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 12:51:05 PM PDT

I have had BellSouth phone service for over 20 years. The only reason I have stayed with them is the have a protected monopoly. While I have been tempted to switch to their DSL package as my cable goes up and up, I have no trust in BellSouth or their other side AT&T. Neither has one iota of concern for the customer and ony know how to charge, charge and charge again.

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Were the service people Bell South?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 02:08:11 PM PDT

or 3rd party contractors? I've heard of 3rd party contractors causing problems around here so they can come back and fix them later.

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Long-extant problem[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by CowboyinBRLA on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 02:45:38 PM PDT

This has been a long-extant problem in the telecommunications world, as the telcos fought to protect their local service turf. Public companies want to grow, to boost their stock price for the benefit of the stockholders (or at least the ones with millions in options). Problem is, people are abandoning land lines in droves, moving to cellular. (Naturally, the telcos are buying up cell companies in response). In addition, the cable companies and telcos used to have a sort of unwritten agreement that cable wouldn't try hard to market phone service if the telcos wouldn't try to break into TV. Now cable has the infrastructure to offer decent and cheap phone service, and it's going all out, but the telco networks can't handle TV without major upgrades. Meanwhile, the telcos have to protect their leased data line business, and a lot of companies are discovering paying $1500 a month for a T1 is silly when you can get symmetrical 6MB cable for a quarter of that, or asymmetrical even cheaper. I've had IDSL, ADSL, and SDSL in the past, and none of them offered anywhere near the quality or stability of my home cable connection, much less my office's cable-managed fiber optic connection. The telcos are trying to squeeze every last dime out of their dying networks before they're worthless, instead of spending the money to upgrade them to a competitive level. I say screw 'em.

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Telecom == no service[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 05:54:21 PM PDT

It's pretty widespread. The customer service in the telecom industry is about at rock bottom. I moved into a new house and Comcast couldn't get their internet service working at better than 2 mbps (when they claim 6) after sending out eight techs. I chatted with them, and apparently, most are subcontracted and paid per job. So, they have (a) no incentive to do it right, since another call back means another $40 and (b) can't really fix anything outside ones house. We had techs show up to check the outside (comcast employees) who had no idea why they were there and left without doing anything. Did I mention the 30 minute hold times, even for the techs? (Again, paid by the job, so time != money for comcast here.) We went with Verizon FIOS, which has been working, but when I called their customer service (in India), they obviously have no clue. They have their script, and nothing else can be done. The service works, but they claim I have to pay for a replacement battery if I want my phone to work in the event of a power failure. (In small print, they switch your phone to fiber whether you want it or not if you get FIOS.) On the phone side, they mis-represented features (i.e. they have no idea what their own services are.) They also set our outgoing caller ID to some other person, and it turns out, they sold them the same number. Too bad for them, we go it (and their calls!) Cingular (cell phone), in addition to lots of calls that just don't go through, there is the uttely clueless tech support and sales people. They sold me a blackberry WITHOUT data service! What can you do with that? Just use the phone, a very expensive phone. My outgoing caller ID is still wrong, and signal quality is much worse than my wife's Verizon.

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FIOS[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 11, 2006 at 08:42:01 AM PDT

(In small print, they switch your phone to fiber whether you want it or not if you get FIOS.)

Umm. the F in FIOS does mean Fiber, you know. Here in Massachusetts, all their promo material has said that all traffic is carried over fiber to the home. I'm not thrilled with having to replace the battery on a periodic basis, but I don't expect to need to do it for some time.

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Customer swervice[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 11:15:47 PM PDT

"The customer service in the telecom industry is about at rock bottom."

The customer service in the entire IT industry is at rock bottom.

No, wait ... the customer service in the entire industrial sector is at rock bottom. And the service sector is following its lead...

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