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GripeLog Poll: Looking for the Best Laptop Vendor

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:06:42 AM PDT

Who is the best notebook computer vendor? Statistics say that an increasing percentage of laptops are sold by a handful of top manufacturers, but that doesn't mean there aren't alternatives. So to help make sure we all know just what the choices are, and perhaps even keep a few of the lesser known lights around, this week on my website we're going to have a poll looking for the best laptop vendor.


A few weeks ago reader gripes about hardware vendors led us to pose the question of whether any hardware vendors these days have the quality in their products and support to be worth paying a premium price. But since we were talking about all kinds of PCs, reader comments soon made me realize we were dealing with a number of questions that each could use answers of their own. Corporate customers who buy in large volume of course have different support issues, for example, than do small businesses or individual purchasers. An even more important difference, though, might be developing when it comes to notebook computers as opposed to desktop PCs.

"Workstations are easy -- if you don't happen to have a first-class white box manufacturer locally, you can just roll your own," wrote one reader. "Laptops are where the real problem lies. Almost all of them are made in one of just a few factories in Taiwan, and they all use the same limited set of components. Dell and HP sell them like commodity items, and the service they give you reflects that. Any of the manufacturers will be happy to charge you more for a top-of-the-line model or an extended, but do they really deliver any value for that money?"

Lenovo's acquisition of IBM's PC business has contributed greatly to the reader angst about where laptop leadership is now to be found. "We have always been willing to more for a ThinkPad than a similarly configured notebook from another vendor," wrote one reader from a company with a history of buying Big Blue. "We knew they'd bend over backwards to keep us happy. I have no such faith in Lenovo, and it's not because it's a Chinese company. It's because they are only a PC business, so we have to expect they will wind up acting like all the other PC commodity suppliers."

Certainly, quite a few readers still put their faith in Apple. "I have two laptops -- a 3.5-year-old Mac and a 4-month-old Toshiba," wrote one such reader. "The Toshiba has been out for repair for two weeks now. The much older Mac has never been out for repair. This is what I typically expect in the Mac/PC debate. I have some experience in this issue. I was a network administrator at a pretty good-sized school for seven years. I had a couple of hundred Macs and a few dozen Windows machines on the network. I consistently found the Windows PCs more troublesome. My recent Toshiba annoyance has confirmed my now even-stronger preference for the Mac."

Of course, other traditional PC mainstays still have their fans, including a few we haven't heard much about lately on the GripeLog. "We have excellent results dealing with Micron (now MPC Computers) for our laptops," wrote one reader. "They are generally reliable as hell, and if we ever do have a problem, you call the 800 number, answer a few questions, and the next day there is a box at your office with a new laptop shell. Take out your hard drive, slap it in your new shell, and you're back up and running in about 5 - 10 minutes. The tech support guys seem to know what they are talking about as well; all of their suggestions are logical for the problems that you are having, instead of just running through some arbitrary script."

What really intrigued me though were the laptops vendors I wasn't so familiar with that readers mentioned as being worth a look. Manufacturers such as Falcon Northwest, PCs for Everyone, Polywell Computers, Sager Notebooks, Voodoo PCs, and WidowPC might not rank with Dell, HP, Toshiba and Acer when it comes to market share, but it would certainly be interesting to hear more about what experiences reader have had with them.

So let's see if we can find out how the product offerings and support of some of the lesser-known portable manufacturers stack up against the big guys. Come cast your vote in and post your comments about your favorite notebook computer vendor. Like all my GripeLog polls, the important thing isn't so much who gets the most votes as what we all learn that we didn't know before. In fact, the most important thing of all might be finding out which vendor we don't have listed in the poll to the right that we need to include next time. Identifying a good laptop vendor that we didn't know about will make the real winners of our poll you and me.

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by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 09:30:22 AM PDT

I have been a Twinhead direct reseller for many years and I have always been pleased with the service they have provided in the infrequent cases where it was required. The service depot is located in Fremont CA, and with the warranty option for 48-hour turnaround time it has never failed to deliver on its promise. Although they are an OEM manufacturer, they do have reseller direct relationships and there products have almost always been very solid performers. That said, I do have a concern about the trend that is developing to replace workstations with notebooks for the very reasons described in the GripeLog. I can easily service a white box or a branded system in an emergency, but servicing a notebook that is in warranty is not an option. This makes it more burdensome on me as a solution provider whenever a notebook does require service. I typically have to image the hard drive and do a full backup of the data just to insure that my client doesn't lose anything of value. I now make it a standard practice to warn all notebook purchasers that there will be a cost attached to that kind of product, either pe-service or post-service - especially if they send the notebook in for service and fail to do a complete backup on their own. One of the worst sounds in the world is the whining of a client who has lost all there data because they have failed to heed repeated warnings to backup their data regularly.

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by talmy on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 09:39:48 AM PDT

Since all notebooks come from a few OEM manufacturers, and none of the retail brands make their own, it might be interesting to have some sort of poll to correlate quality versus OEM manufacturer. Beyond that, its sad that there is little product differentiation (except for Apple) and that product choice ends up being based on which brand has the best among the lousy service providers.

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Who makes which ones?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by Reziac on Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 11:32:47 AM PDT

Does anyone have a list of which OEMs are making what namebrand laptop PCs?

Also, it is probably worth tracking which "branded" units are more or less troublesome, as often such products are made to the namebrand spec rather than to the OEM's own standard -- and that spec may be higher or lower quality than the OEM's average.
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laptop vendors[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Red Rat on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 10:14:15 AM PDT

So far the best ones we have purchased has been the IBM ThinkPads. We have some older Dells and one Gateway. We have not had problems with the IBM/Lenovo machines, they have been quite reliable. We have not had to have service on the Dells but had to replace a key on the Gateway. After a lot of backtracking and telephone calls (they said originally they would send a replace keyboard) finally they said ship the computer to us, we did and got it back about 3 days later. Initial fooling around on the phone (I think I talked to people in the US) where the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing which took about a month, but once through that the sending in and getting back was smooth. The IBM/Lenovo has the "IBM" update key which automatically connects to the IBM website to download drivers and flash updates. Hope this continues under Lenovo, but we shall see.

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Polling methodology[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 10:35:32 AM PDT

Ed--It's great that you are collecting this helpful information, but I see a flaw in the way the poll is being conducted. Asking for the "best laptop vendor" will not provide the results we all want, I fear. Dell (for example) probably sells 1000s of times as many laptops as "Acme laptops". If 1% of Dell customers are happy and 100% of Acme customers are happy, Dell would still win. How do you plan to scale the numbers to account for this?? Al H

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Lenovo[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 11:10:46 AM PDT

I work as a small business computer consultant and started buying IBM desktop mini tower computer about two years ago for my clients. I purchase about 5 systems a month and had only the most minor of problems and after about 100 systems and I never had to contact support. I liked the IBM systems because they were well made with a sturdy, compact, and easy to use case with a consistent design. I estimated that I was spending about $75 to $100 per machine more than what a comparable Dell or other off brand computer would cost. Last month I received my first two Lenovo manufactured machine ThinkCentre E-series mini tower system. What a joke of a computer. The case is now cheap flimsy sheet metal with side panels that warp with the lightest amount of pressure. (not to mention jagged edges) The case is nearly 30 percent longer than old IBM version. To save money they used only one IDE cable for the hard drive and CD-Rom with the hard drive jumper as the slaved drive. They eliminated the case fan which causes the system to run a lot hotter that it should. They did away with the tool free features of the case. The internal wiring was just a mess. The nice case carrying handle is now a flimsy piece of plastic. Of course I all got all this for the same IBM premium price. I will not be buying another Lenovo product for a while. Does anyone have any suggestions for well made small business type of minitower desktops?

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by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 06:50:15 PM PDT

Take a look at the HP Smart Buy program. I stopped building desktops in 2005 because HP was able to deliver an excellent business desktop system for HUNDREDS of dollars less than I could build the same system from scratch (and I get very good pricing from my main-line distributors). I am a huge fan of the AMD Athlon 64 and Opteron (for servers)and HP has a great Smart Buy Athlon 64 system that has performed much like your previous experiences with IBM. Until and unless HP lets me down they will be my desktop provider of choice.

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by foxyshadis1 on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:55:22 PM PDT

I'm probably in the minority, but I want to find someone who sells barebones shells. Partly that's because I've upgraded so much of my current notebook that I want to transfer some of that investment to my next. I don't care about support beyond chipset drivers. And I need a high performance Yonah, but obviously I have a few more weeks of waiting for that to show up. But even though most parts are fairly standard (except batteries) it's hard to find a notebook with only a processor.

And they have to be pretty. PCs For Everyone had a great price but ugly (IMHO) laptops.

Although a few of those I looked at look nice for less savvy people or for my company.

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Where's the beefy stuff[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 04:03:27 PM PDT

The whole market seems to have gone on the cheap for the mass market and no longer cares for a "flagship" model. Used to be everyone made one of these even if it didn't sell much because peeps bought a laptop 3 or 4 notches down based upon the performance crown won by the flagship. Where's this beast ? My ideal laptop would have the following: 17" WUXGA 1900X1200 Petium M 780 or AMD equivalent 2 Gig RAM 7200 rpm HD, 60-100 Gig (2 HD's preferred) 8X DVD+-RW Dual Layer DVD & CD Writer 4-in-1 Internal Card Reader nVIDIA GeForce Go 7800 GTX 256 MB Gigabit High Speed Ethernet Multi-Wireless Card 56K Modem and Blue Tooth Module Trackpoint Pencil Eraser Mouse thingie Docking Station Capability for simultaneous use of twin Cardbus cards (SCSI and USB2/Firewire)

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It exists[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 10:56:14 AM PDT

I'm very close to that, believe you can get that configuration in a Dell Latitude D800. I know, I know... :p

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Go check the Sager Notebooks link ....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 01:54:55 PM PDT

More-or-less everything you mention here only AMD 64. 64-bit's what I'm looking for right now.

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AMD Laptop[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by sconeu on Wed Jan 11, 2006 at 08:00:37 AM PDT

You might try PC Club [http://www.pcclub.com].  They advertise AMD laptops.

Disclaimer: I have only purchased desktop systems from them.

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Fairness[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jan 11, 2006 at 10:36:31 PM PDT

Just so ya know... as a PC Club employee... We have Intel and AMD based systems. Desktop and laptop. All our units are tested before purchasing by our notebook or desktop department, which ever one is responsible for the purchase. All notebooks in the planet come from only a few vendors. The ones I currently remember are Compal, Quanta and Uniwill. I believe there is 1 or 2 more that I don't remember. All laptops come from one of these vendors and depending on the purchaser they might make modifications such as a different chasis or or other various things. For example, Dell is famous for changing the internal power adaptor for a more propiatary (sp) plug. Knowing this, judging the place that you purchase the laptop from, such as Dell isn't really fair. Not only are you judging a company that physically doesn't make the product but most of the companies use more than one vendor to purchase their notebooks from. For example Alienware uses Uniwill, Compal and Quanta. Just my 2 cents.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#68)
by maderikapapa on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:00:39 AM PDT

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Two good brands[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 08:46:21 PM PDT

I've owned a Toshiba, 2 years old, and an Averatec, 1 year old. No problems at all.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#67)
by maderikapapa on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:00:29 AM PDT

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Sager[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 10:25:40 PM PDT

Over the last ~8 years, we've bought several Sager laptops. They've all worked well for us. Sager has always been technology leaders... they had 15+" screens 2-3 years before anybody else did. One machine (out of warranty) went back for keyboard decoder chip replacement. Turnaround time and cost was reasonable. On the 'spur of the moment' 2 years ago, we bought a hot-looking Sony at a computer show. In the quiet of home, we discovered it was unacceptably noisy. It went back to Sony serveral times, then they replaced it in kind and the replacement wasn't acceptable either. Sony, listening to it over the phone agreed, and upgraded it to a different (better) model that's a nice machine that people have complimented, but I've never been as pleased, performance-wise, with the Sony as I've always been with any of the Sagers.

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Laptop or desktop replacement[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 09:16:31 AM PDT

I think there is a distinction to be made here between a 'laptop' and a 'desktop replacement'. It turns out that what I was looking for would be better termed a desktop replacement.

Given this realization, there weren't many choices. The choices I discovered were mostly about service, price, and aesthetics. For me it came down to Voodoo, Hypersonic, and Falcon NW.

First realization for me came when I read Alienware's dead pixel policy. Not so good. If I'm paying for a 1920x1200 screen, I at least want the opportunity to preview it before I'm stuck with it. Hypersonic allows you to pay extra for 0 dead, but allows 1 dead without it. Falcon includes it without an extra charge. Voodoo seems to let you have 6 dead pixels before they'll do anything (seems worse than Alienware to me).

Voodoo seems to have the best 'culture' with their forums. They address some of the price differences and allow some pretty good discussion about high-end laptops/PCs while seeming pretty 'sales neutral'. Given their dead-pixel policy combined with their high price, however, I wasn't impressed.

There seem to be some major differences between the above mentioned three in terms of price. Between Hypersonic, Falcon, and Voodoo, Hypersonic seemed to have a much lower price for similarly configured systems (even if you pay Hypersonic's extra $100 for no dead pixel guarantee). In the end, price is what swayed me. For what I wanted (dual core Athlon 4800, lots of extras) the difference was well over $1000 between Hypersonic and Falcon/Voodoo.

I haven't received my new laptop yet, (they do take time to apply the paint I wanted) but I have spoken with people in sales at Hypersonic, and they were helpful and easy to get ahold of. I got a 3-year warranty and 1 year "accidental damage protection" so probably at some point I'm going to be calling them.



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by foxyshadis1 on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 05:31:19 PM PDT

I found between a few laptops that dead pixels aren't irritating after a week and rarely noticeable later on unless you think about it and go looking; just occasionally I might notice in the middle of a movie. It's just one of those things your brain trains itself to ignore. Never had a regular LCD monitor with dead pixels though.

3-4 dead pixels scattered around the screen is ICK though.

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Linux compatibility[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 09:29:56 AM PDT

The biggest factor in my most recent laptop purchase was whether it worked with Linux. I finally bought a Dell that had seemed to work well for people reporting on linuxlaptops.org. This wasn't because Dell offered any sort of Linux support, but rather because they still carried models that were written up on the linuxlaptops web site. I tried researching other manufacturers' products, but it was too difficult to find specifications on a model within my budget that was carried by any of the retailers I considered. The models change too fast, and it's hard to keep up. Now I'll just cross my fingers and hope for the best....

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by sconeu on Wed Jan 11, 2006 at 08:04:32 AM PDT

You might want to check out some Linux magazines.  Several laptop vendors advertise there, and provide Linux support as well as honoring manufacturers warranty.

In this months dead-tree version of Linux Journal, there was an ad for a company (I think it was Emperor) that sells major brand laptops fitted for Linux -- They had an IBM/Lenovo and a Dell M80 shown in the ad.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#66)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 11:02:55 PM PDT

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Toshiba Laptops[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 01:36:28 PM PDT

I have owned several Toshiba laptops and been pleased with all of them. They are reliable, nice design, and reasonable price. I will look for Toshiba first whenever I need another laptop.

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by innorthwoods on Fri Jan 13, 2006 at 07:16:42 AM PDT

I've resold a number of different laptop/notebooks over the years (16 years in the business). Currently I'm very happy with Toshiba. I've only had a problem with one over the last 3 years and Toshiba tech support and RMA/Repair was very easy to work with and did a great job in a timely manor.

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laptop[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#21)
by rj2046 on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 06:56:52 AM PDT

I agree with the previous writer who notes the potential for skew in this poll. First, I have no idea which the best one is. I can only comment on the one i bought, and i cast my one vote for it as it has been problem free since Jan 2005. ( fingers crossed ) Presario R3000 with Athlon64, 15.4 screen. This term dead pixels is a new one on me. ( Not surprised though )

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Not on your list[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 10:22:22 AM PDT

And perhaps not the best, but I have switched to recommending my customers buy Systemax notebooks from Global. I hate to do it, since they compete for other hardware sales with me, but dollar for dollar, they're a good value. If they do develop a problem, it's usually when they're old enough to be borderline obsolete, and for the price that was paid, replacement is an attractive option. And I'm not responsible for any of the nightmares that can come up should a repair be necessary, like the time portablecomputer.com kept a customer's laptop for nearly six months, then returned it with someone else's hard drive installed, and sans modem/nic card, and we never did get the correct hard drive and all the customer's data back. If I do get involved, I can bill for my time.

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Averatec for me[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jan 25, 2006 at 07:52:49 AM PDT

I started off with an Averatec 6235 (Athlon64, 60GB, 512MB,15.4"), but got spooked because of factory only service and unknown name. After a year, I sold it on eBay and bought an Acer Aspire 5002. Bad move. The Acer was more cheaply built with tinny speakers and various Linux "issues". This week I found that Averatec has a refurb shop, so I've ordered their 6240 (Faster Athlon64, and 80GB disk). I'll never stray again! On the other hand, my daughter runs an HP Pavilion laptop. No hardware issues, but then she uses it as a "desktop replacement".

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by bendictpaul on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 04:31:24 AM PDT

Wow. Thanks for the wonderful piece of information. That's gonna be of some help since I wanted to get a new laptop. It seems quite a headache when it comes to purchasing laptop since there's more issues to look on. The battery life, the style, the ram, etc etc. Somethign that I usually don't look on if I get a home PC since they are genrally cheaper.
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Add Panasonic to the Poll[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#26)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 07, 2006 at 10:17:25 AM PDT

I think there is an obvious omission from the notebook poll - Panasonic ToughBooks!. I have never had an end-user complain about these terrific notebooks. They may be more expensive up-front, but the life-cycle cost is always the best in the business. Also, Panasonic stocks repair parts for SEVEN YEARS after the end-of-life for the product. I don't know of another vendor that can match that degree of support. I have had to wait endlessly for parts on an Averatec C3500 convertible even while it was in warranty.