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PayPal Spoof E-mail Isn't Itself a Spoof

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Thu Aug 04, 2005 at 09:54:19 PM PDT

Is it real, or is it a phishing scam? That's a question that seems to get harder and harder to answer for sure with each new message in one's inbox. And an e-mail I got from PayPal this morning that was supposed to make it a little easier actually left me more uncertain than ever.


When the message from paypal@email.paypal.com with the subject line "Spot spoof, protect your identity and more..." showed up in my inbox, my first impulse was just to delete it as another fake from a spammer/scammer pretending to be from PayPal. But wait -- I saw it was addressed to me by the name that's on my PayPal account, which is supposed to be a good sign that it's authentic. And it wasn't asking me for my passwords or other account information -- in fact, it was just offering links to various PayPal pages about its "Identity Protection" education campaign. Surely phishing scammers wouldn't be doing do that.

Or would they? In tandem with its adopted parent company eBay, PayPal has to be the all-time favorite target for identity thieves to imitate, so it's best not to underestimate how sophisticated a scam impersonating them might be. And all those links in the e-mail looked rather suspicious in the status bar when I moved the cursor over them. An "http://email1.paypal" subdomain was followed by a long string of random characters of the type you see all the time in phishing scams -- it could easily be phony. And if PayPal was just trying to provide links to pages with security tips, why not just spell out the real URLs?

One way to have been more certain if the e-mail really was from PayPal would be to click on one of those insecure-looking links and see if it would take me to a PayPal SSL page anyway. But clicking on suspicious links is never a good idea, so I wrote spoof@paypal.com and asked them about the message. When I hadn't gotten an answer an hour later, I decided it was my journalistic duty to call PayPal PR and ask them about the message.

The upshot is, yes, the "Spot spoof" e-mail really is from PayPal. "The links are to safe pages that only provide our customers with educational information about protecting their identity," the PayPal spokesperson said. Since the links can't be made forge-proof, PayPal considered eliminating links altogether from e-mails to customers, but has found that's not what its customers want. "This is still the preferred way for consumers to get information from us that can be useful to them." And a little while ago I got a response from spoof@paypal.com telling me I should change my e-mail notification preferences if I don't want to get such messages, which I guess is a backhanded way of confirming that it was authentically from PayPal.

OK, call me paranoid. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is that any phishing scam artist who wanted to do so could forge the identical message I received. So isn't PayPal saying we're supposed to judge whether a possible phishing scam came from them by its apparent intent? PayPal did give me an education today in protecting my identity, but I doubt it's the lesson they intended to teach.

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It was covered by anti-forgery technology...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by adonoho on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 01:40:27 PM PDT

Ed,

The note from Paypal does use some of the latest deployed anti-spoofing technologies - namely SPF, Sender Policy Framework. For example, in my copy of the mail, the following header was inserted by my mail server:

Received-Spf: pass receiver=XXX.XXX; client-ip=206.165.246.86; envelope-from=paypal@email.paypal.com
What SPF allows is for vendors to identify which machines are authorized to send mail for a domain. And that is how Paypal is using it. SPF is just one of many checks that still need to be done to email to defeat phishing but it is a step in the right direction.

In other words, the state of anti-phishing technology is improving. Yes, the email readers need to be updated to exploit this information. But the net is moving towards making forgery harder.

Andrew

P.S. I have no vested interest in SPF other than using it myself.

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Re: It was covered by anti-forgery technology...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 11:06:54 AM PDT

Regarding the SPF headers: It is trivially easy for any spammer (or anyone with even a moderate knowledge of the mechanics of e-mail) to add any fake header they want, including a fake "X-SPF-Passed: True" header. Spammers and phishers have a vested interest in exploiting these technologies to the maximum possible extent. SPF can be exploited by phishers and spammers to make their mail seem more authentic and credible. SPF is not an end-user mechanism. Unless you know the *exact* behavior of the mail server receiving the message, what *exact* headers are added, how fake headers are handles, *exactly* how the checks are performed, etc., these checks are of no value to the end user. They are for the mail server administrator or postmaster.

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It's not that complex.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by foxyshadis1 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 06:22:44 PM PDT

All you need to know is whether your mail server supports SPF. If it does, then it'll detect that the message says it's coming from paypal.com but isn't on their SPF list and dispose of it. If your mailer doesn't, spammers are free to do whatever they want to the message, obviously.

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Paypal phish[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Shade on Wed Aug 10, 2005 at 12:25:11 PM PDT

I too received it and thought, "well, well, yet another attempt. But, my spoofstick said it was from paypal. I clicked through and lo and behold, it was a customer advisory. It does rattle you that so many are still trying to do the dastardly deed. Keep up your good work.
We are all we have.
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SpoofStick[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Fri Aug 12, 2005 at 11:30:15 AM PDT

For those that don't know, SpoofStick is a FireFox extension that displays the domain name of the page you are on. This is very handy when you are not sure a page is legitimant or not.

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What is the big deal?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 08:13:44 AM PDT

Ed,

What is the big deal anyway? EMail messages are text messages. Having capabilities to look at the email in text format vs the fancy rendered HTML quickly shows the real emails from the fakes. EMail headers, the actual links these idiots are trying to get someone to click on... so much evidence only idiots would fall for the bait.

I think more what we suffer is from sugar coated technology which prevents users from doing what they should be able to do... in the case of email that would be to see the complete and raw text version of the message.

Michael

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Idiots?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Mason on Mon Aug 08, 2005 at 02:07:27 PM PDT

EMail headers, the actual links these idiots are trying to get someone to click on... so much evidence only idiots would fall for the bait....I think more what we suffer is from sugar coated technology which prevents users from doing what they should be able to do... in the case of email that would be to see the complete and raw text version of the message.

These "idiots" are every day people who are not experienced in the myriad of the Internet crapfest.  New people come online every day.  People who are experienced with spam even have a hard time with it once in a while -- some of these emails are extremely deceptive and well done.  Show a little compassion -- your "idiots" are your friends and family.

I don't know of any email clients that keep you from seeing the html source of html email.  It may not be intuitive or easy to find, but it's always there.

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those idiots are also ....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Thu Mar 16, 2006 at 01:11:06 AM PDT

those idiots are not only friends & family, but your customers as well.  Directly or indirectly like a client who's PO is never received by your secretary who made the ID ten T error in email.  

Mistakes caused by experience or lack thereof, do not define one as an idiot.  If the mistakes cause you a burden, educate or help the other person.  That's also a burden but miniscule compared to the alternative's long term burdens.  

Choosing to intentionally suffer in spite of a simple resolution is like choosing to stay out in the rain and risk getting hit by lightning and blaming mother nature that you're wet.  Last I heard only idiots & golfers did that.  Golfers don't complain about burdens though, they just move their balls to a better place.

What's left must define an idiot - those who choose to suffer and complain.  If a golfer is in earshot who doesn't want to be, he might move some balls but probably not his - the club might be a size 12 shoe with spikes.

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Term "Idiots" is harsh and erroneous[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 08:20:33 AM PDT

The phishing and pharming techniques are becoming better and better. Many people (not idiots) are being taken in by them. If I'm having a problem with my bank or ebay or some other entity and a fake email shows up that can only complicate matters.

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Idiots[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 10, 2005 at 04:42:28 PM PDT

Having survived a phisher's attack on a pretty secure server -- discovered after 7 accesses -- and having received a call from a security expert (who fell for the paypal phishing spam directing him to a hidden file on my server) as soon as he realized where he ended up, I believe that not only idiots fall for the scams. The phishers are genuine experts. We should make public all attacks, especially when they involve victims who are more experienced than the average user, in order to increase the collective awareness of all users, including self-confessed idiots. I decided to involve the appropriate federal agency and blog about certain facets of the attack. Hiding my embarrassment would give cover to the attackers. ck

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#35)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:03:57 PM PDT

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Spoof-Proofing: a proposal[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Fletcher James on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 05:54:10 PM PDT

Here's my two cents: Legit vendors should never <force> you to use a link, to access information or downloads on their site. Instead, they should offer you the alternative of a "LinkID" provided for each item. You would browse <on your own> to their website, and then paste that "LinkID" as plain text, into the "Search" box or a "Link" box, which would then bring you directly to the desired page. If the link were to contain any personal information, then you would be instructed to use the "https://" prefix. Perhaps there's some obvious or subtle flaw in this scheme, but it really seems to me that it's pretty much invulnerable, as long as your DNS services haven't been hijacked in some way.

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Catch-22[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Mason on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 09:05:40 PM PDT

Make it too much of a pain in the butt and customers (or whoever) won't bother.  

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Not to mention...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by foxyshadis1 on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 10:13:26 PM PDT

Plus it still leaves paypa1.com and similar hacks using international characters open.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#34)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:03:48 PM PDT

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by Anonymous User on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 11:05:13 PM PDT

لعبة قتال صعبة لعبه قتال صعبه لعبة ترتيب الغرف لعبه ترتيب الغرفة لعبة نينجا صعبة لعبه نينجا صعبه لعبة صعبة لعبة صعبه جدا لعبة تزيين فلفه لعبه فلفه للبنات لعبة سباق سيارات ودراجات سباق سيارات دراجات لعبة ترتيب وتلويين الغرف ترتيب تلوين غرف لعبة ترتيب حمام فلفه ترتيب حمام فلفة لعبة سيارات ودراجات لعبه سيارات دراجات لعبة بوش السكران لعبه بوش السكران لعبة تحدي سيارات ودراجات تحدي سيارات دراجات لعبة بوش المحارب لعبه بوش المحارب لعبة البحث عن الرجل الخفي لعبه الرجل الخفي لعبة الرجل الخفي مغامرات الرجل الخفي لعبة بوش محارب الارهاب بوش محارب الارهاب لعبة الرجل الخفي الآسطوره الرجل الخفي الآسطوره لعبة طلاء الآظافر لعبه طلاء الآظافر لعبة تكسير الكعب لعبة تكسير الكعب لعبة قبضه التنين لعبة قبضه التنين لعبة انتصار قبضه التنين لعبة انتصار قبضه التنين لعبة التنين المحارب لعبه التنين المحارب لعبة مغامرات سكوبي دو لعبة مغامرات سكوبي دو لعبة سكوبي دو لعبة سكوبي دو لعبة الغاز سكوبي دو لعبة الغاز سكوبي دو لعبة بوش السكران لعبة بوش السكران لعبة رقص بوش السكران لعبة رقص بوش السكران لعبة مغامرات ميجا مان لعبة مغامرات ميجا مان لعبة ميجا مان لعبة ميجا مان لعبة ميجا مان المحارب لعبة ميجا مان المحارب لعبة طيارات لعبة طيارات لعبة حرب طيارات لعبة حرب طيارات لعبة حرب طيارات هليكوبتر لعبة حرب طيارات هليكوبتر لعبة حرب طيارات لعبة حرب طيارات لعبة وحش البحيره لعبة وحش البحيره لعبة هروب وحش البحيره لعبة هروب وحش البحيره لعبة وحش البحيره المحارب لعبة وحش البحيره المحارب لعبة منشه ذباب صينيه لعبة منشه ذباب صينيه لعبة مطاعم صينيه لعبة مطاعم صينيه لعبة صينيه لعبة صينيه لعبة بنت صينيه لعبة بنت صينيه لعبة استقلال فلسطين لعبة استقلال فلسطين لعبة حرب فلسطين لعبة حرب فلسطين لعبة فلسطين لعبة فلسطين لعبة حمام باربي لعبة حمام باربي لعبة مهمه سريه لعبة مهمه سريه لعبة سريه لعبة سريه لعبة سريه للغاية لعبة سريه للغاية لعبة الجنود الضاحكون لعبة الجنود الضاحكون لعبة الضاحكون لعبة الضاحكون لعبة قتل الضاحكون لعبة قتل الضاحكون

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by samezhen on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 02:55:41 AM PDT

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