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Copyright Decision Deals Blow to New Technology

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 12:18:28 AM PDT

Oh, oh. While the Supreme Court's decision in the Grokster vs MGM case isn't expected for several months, I just stumbled onto something that looks like bad news for the peer-to-peer side. It would appear that the court in an earlier but somehow little noticed decision upheld arguments identical to those made by the music and movie industries in this case. I must admit it's an odd coincidence that the decision is exactly 100 years old today, which might lead some to question its authenticity. But, hey, you be the judge.


U.S. Supreme Court
April 1, 1905

MR. JUSTICE HOLMES delivered the opinion of the court:

This is an appeal from a decree restraining an alleged infringement by the defendant of the copyrights of artists represented by the respondents. That massive infringement has occurred using the systems developed and sold by the defendant is not in dispute. Respondents have estimated, and the defendant has stipulated as fact, that 90 percent of the content used on those devices are direct or thinly disguised copies of copyrighted works. The only question at hand is whether the defendant's actions in selling those systems constitutes infringement on his part.

The respondents acknowledge that the defendant did not himself copy the stories or the music of the artists they represent. Rather they argue that copyright infringement is the only significant use of his products and as such his design and sale of them constitute an active inducement to infringing acts on the part of others. The defendant knew or should have known when he devised these systems that they would be used for illegal purposes and is therefore liable for contributory infringement.

The court recognizes that the devices, as the defense has argued, do theoretically have the capability of substantial noninfringing use. And we are mindful of the concern that making the defendant responsible for how customers use his products might discourage some of the inventive spirit he has shown in the past. However, we cannot ignore the testimony of some of this nation's most renowned composers, playwrights, actors and other artists of the grievous harm caused by wholesale copying of their "inventions" that the defendant's products have induced. Indeed, if the all too public performances of their work enabled by the defendant's devices continue, the very existence of the respondents' centuries-old crafts would be in jeopardy. We therefore cannot help but agree with the respondents' assertion that the defendant's systems are in fact two "gigantic infringement machines built on inducement" of illegal violations of copyright.

Therefore, in the matter of defendant Thomas Alva Edison versus respondent the Book Authors Guild and respondent the Sheet Music Publishers Association, this court unanimously concurs with the lower court's decree. In inventing and offering for sale his "moving picture" and "phonograph" devices, the defendant induced countless infringing acts against the holders of copyrights for books and music. Defendant Edison's assets are to be seized in order to make restitution to the respondents. Furthermore, all phonographs, record players, moving picture equipment and similar devices are to be confiscated and destroyed. All "record" companies and "film studios" most disgorge their ill-gotten gains and henceforth cease and desist all operations now and forevermore.

It is so ordered.

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April fools![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 12:43:31 AM PDT

Good one Ed... Or is it???? <spooky music plays in the background>

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Haha[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by auctionhugh on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 09:01:17 AM PDT

April fools it must be.

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April Fool's Day[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 05:05:26 AM PDT

God I hate this stupid day and pranking traditions...

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You *almost* had me, Ed...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 05:20:20 AM PDT

...except I just came from the Snopes.com April Fools page and my sensitivity to this kind of thing was at least temporarily heightened...

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Best returns of the day to you, too![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by dliesse on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 09:08:45 AM PDT

In a way, I almost wish this were true, just to put those industries in their place!

Model Railroader magazine does an April Fool's spoof every year, too, but it comes in February (why magazines do that I'll never understand). This year's was demonstrating the use of new technology in layout building. Short of space? Use this new technique to build your layout on the ceiling!

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April Fools[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by durth on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 09:37:46 AM PDT

Good one Ed. Had me real confused there even though my 6 year old son started out our day wiht an April Fools joke.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:19:12 PM PDT

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He did get me.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 11:19:20 AM PDT

I even went to check out the Supreme Court Decisions. But I did find some interesting items related to player pianos and roll music. P2P may be on stonger footing than I thought, if only we could find a good lawyer.....

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 09:21:47 PM PDT

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Had me fooled...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by zollinger on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 11:51:28 AM PDT

... I thought you were going to reference the famous Gutenberg decision (DAGoC vs. Johann Gutenberg, 1443) wherein the Dark Ages Guild of Clerics claimed that the new movable type could only be used to *illegally* copy books and infringe on their legal franchise rights. ~kevin

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Re: Had me fooled...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Ed Foster on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 12:04:42 PM PDT

Believe it or not -- and of course today you might not want to believe anything -- I actually had been planning to do a Gutenberg thing. But then one of the Supreme Court justices mentioned Gutenberg during the oral agruments, and I decided I needed to find an even more implausible idea. -- Ed

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It was the opposite...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 01:32:09 PM PDT

Actually, this was the thing: "Despite the early guidance of the Wizard, the darkest years of the film industry also came at the hands of Edison. Inflamed over entrenchments on his patents, Edison went to court to prevent the use of all other film equipment. But a Supreme Court ruling of 1902 concluded that Edison's contributions did not constitute the actual invention of motion pictures. The combined discoveries of others were deemed critical. Furious, Edison vowed to win in the marketplace. Though he had a substantial share of commercial moviemaking devices, he wanted more control. In 1908, he solicted several companies representing all major producers and distributors in the industry; Vitagraph, Biograph, Essanay, Selig, Lubin, Kalem, Pathé, Méliès, and Gaumont. Together, these giants formed the Motion Picture Patents Company in 1909, commonly known as The Edison Trust, and forced independent filmmakers like to Adolph Zukor and Sam Goldwyn to sign restrictive contracts that guaranteed the use of camera and projection equipment, as well as other guidelines set by the Trust. Key to the power of the group was the inclusion of George Eastman, who refused film stock to uncooperative filmmakers."

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april fools joke[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 08:56:45 AM PDT

I read this headline late (April 4) and actually thought Ed had picked up on another idiotic act by the industry, this time the DVD Copy Control Association, who have filed suit against Kaleidescape Inc. for creating a (copy protected) hard disk based server for home entertainment systems. Reported in the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, April 3, the story notes that after building in every conceivable anti-piracy device, the company is being sued simply because its new product creates an image of a DVD on a hard drive (a jukebox of actual DVDs would have been acceptable, but would not have made streaming of the same movie at overlapping times to two TVs possible). Helloooooo - ripping to disk is already being done daily by teenagers - instead of providing a legit way for everyone to do it, the media idiots are pretending that they can cram the genie back into the bottle with a lawsuit. When will these goofs learn that technology will evolve despite their attempts to slow it down? They are the real April Fools...

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by mlutton on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 02:08:03 PM PDT

What a difference a century makes! Holmes would have been horrified at that decision.

In WHITE-SMITH MUSIC PUB. CO. v. APOLLO CO., 209 U.S. 1 (1908) the Supreme Court held that recordings and piano rolls did not infringe copyright because (1) the music couldn't be read by eye from them and (2) Congress knew about piano rolls and phonograph records but did not address them in the copyright law. Justice Holmes said that he thought recordings ought to be considered infringing copies and that Congress should say so in the copyright act, but until they did, the recordings did not infringe. (The very next year Congress did just that, passing a new copyright law.)

Interesting sidelight: can you read music by eye from a piano roll? Of course you can. In one case (this one maybe?) the music publisher brought in an expert witness who could read music from a piano roll. The player piano company brought in a player piano and a pile of music rolls. The expert witness COULD NOT read the rolls or identify the pieces of music. The piano company had secretly rearranged all the tubes in the piano and cut the rolls to match, effectively encrypting the rolls and undermining the witness! Does this remind you of a case involving a video of a computer screen with a browser that was and was not installed?

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by Anonymous User on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 04:39:45 PM PDT

When congress identified player piano rolls as covered by copyright protection, they put into place a system where the amount the copyright holder could charge in exchange for the right to publish a piano roll of the music, was severely limited, and the moment the copyright holder made their work avialable to one piano roll publisher they were required to do so for all publishers. Subsequently when addressing radio broadcasts of music they constructed a very similar system. And when addressing DAT's a small charge was added to the tapes.

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    by maderikapapa on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 02:19:52 AM PDT

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