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Battle Lines Being Drawn

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 08:28:45 AM PDT

For those of you who feel the GripeLog is focusing too much on EULAs at the expensive of other gripe topics, let me just say first that I share your concern. But let me also warn you that it's going to get worse before it gets better, because things are starting to heat up on the EULA front.


A few weeks ago we saw how three major software publishers and three major software retailers had quietly agreed to give customers more open access to EULA terms before they buy a product. Just yesterday came another development to which I'd like to draw your attention. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) published its first white paper on the EULA issue, "Dangerous Terms - A User's Guide to EULAs." It's a document that, along with providing a valuable resource for consumers who run afoul of sneakwrap terms, also serves as something of a call-to-arms.

"EULAs present one of the most pressing consumer rights issues in high tech today -- they threaten user privacy, as well as everyone's basic ability to customize and fix their own machines," says Annalee Newitz, EFF policy analyst and author of the white paper. "When we click "I Agree" on these things, the message we send vendors is that they can get away with anything. It's surprising how common it is for EULAs to demand countless ridiculous things. If you can't read the EULA before making a purchase, ask yourself: how can this be a real contract if I can't read it before agreeing to it?"

While Newitz wants consumers to be more aware of egregious terms, she also hopes the white paper will help them realize what they can do about them. "There are many ways consumers can fight unfair terms in EULAs -- through legislation, class action lawsuits, and even just grassroots activism," she said. "EFF is working on legal strategies to fight unfair EULA terms, and we invite consumers who have received legal threats because of a EULA, or have been harmed by one, to write us as at EULAharm@eff.org."

As you might recall, EFF already has one very crucial EULA-related fight on its hands in its appeal of the horrendous court decision in the Blizzard vs. BnetD case. That's the one in which the court ruled the Blizzard EULA's prohibition on reverse engineering could deprive the BnetD group of open source programmers of rights that copyright law, including the DMCA, specifically gives them. So the only things that are at stake in the case are open source programming, the concept of fair use, competition and innovation. Hey, no pressure, guys.

Since this is a battle where EFF can use all the help it can get, it's good to see some of the organizations that have weighed in on their side. In fact, if you're up for some heavy-duty reading on the legal aspects of EULAs, the DMCA, reverse engineering, and fair use, take a look at EFF's appeal and the four amicus briefs filed in support by Consumers Union and Public Knowledge, the IEEE, Computer & Communications Industry Association and Open Source & Industry Alliance, and a prestigious group of intellectual property attorneys. It's going to be interesting to see Blizzard's response, which is due shortly, and the amicus briefs filed on its behalf. If nothing else, I think this case is going to make the battle lines very clear.

Of course, the wheels of justice grind slowly, and a final resolution of the Blizzard case could well be years away. In the meantime, there are some other EULA-related initiatives on the horizon we're going to need to talk about, including one that I've been personally involved with for well over a year. So bear with me a little while longer, please.

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"Meeting of the minds"[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 11:12:50 AM PDT

Has anyone ever argued that EULAs are not enforceable contacts because for the vast majority of those who click "accept", there is not a "meeting on the minds". While the software vendor's rebuttal would be that it's the buyer's fault for not taking the time to read what they are agreeing to, if it you could be demonstrated convencingly that the vendor KNOWS that no one reads or comprehends their EULA, then it would seem that they would be put in a situation that their EULA is not a real contract.

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A meeting of the minds isn't possible anyway[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 07:24:01 PM PDT

A consumer who reads and dislikes the EULA can't negotiate for better terms anyway, since there is no negotiating or haggling in a mass-market transaction. This seems to me to mean that mass-market transactions are sales, not licensings, and governed by applicable laws, and EULAs, even seen as conditions of sale, are not enforceable under first sale doctrine and other notions. Only individualized transactions (as sometimes happens with b2b software licensing) might be licensing arrangements that fall under the jurisdiction of contract law, and typically there the lawyers of both sides hash out a mutually agreeable deal. One-sided "These are the terms -- take it or shop elsewhere, oh, but since we hold the copyright and therefore a state-sanctioned monopoly on this product, I guess what we really mean is take it or leave it" type "agreements" cannot be enforceable in a free and just society.

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Courts?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by auctionhugh on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 01:18:42 PM PDT

I just can't understand why no deep pockets end user group has not taken a few unreasonable eula wielding retailers to court and won yet!

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Re: Courts?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Ed Foster on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 01:47:25 PM PDT

A deep pockets end user group? I wish there was such a thing, but there isn't. -- Ed

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Deep pockets end user groups[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by auctionhugh on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 08:44:50 PM PDT

What I meant but stated very badly was an end user such as a huge corporation who had the money and legal resources to challenge this once and for all. I'm surprised none have taken on the whole "eula as contract" supposition of the software industry.

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I would suspect that[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 01:35:38 PM PDT

that type of corporation would be the least likely to acquiesce to such terms (e.g. can negotiate individual terms).

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Fill the pockets![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Mason on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 02:49:19 PM PDT

http://www.eff.org/support/

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kids and EULAs[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Sat Feb 19, 2005 at 07:45:28 PM PDT

Minors own computers and install software. Does anyone believe that children who cannot enter into contracts can be bound by the terms of a EULA?

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Minors and agreements[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 09:22:45 AM PDT

The parents are legally responsible fo anything minors do. That implies that the parents are agreeing to the EULA, not the minor.

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Depends on country[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 01:11:58 AM PDT

>The parents are legally responsible fo anything
>minors do.

That applies to some countries, but most definately not all. For example in Sweden, a person can never be legally responsible for the action of anyone else, not even their children. What one do have though is a certain responsability of supervision. This is obvious tied with age and common sense. For example, you are not required to run after a 15 year old child when it is out to make sure what it do. Similary, for a case of purchase for example, it can't be done to start with to a minor (although court concensus and such has determined that lesser sales, like sending a child to buy milk and such is OK) is something that when a parent get to know about it and do NOT revoke it, gives it acceptance. Still, no legal responsability though.

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Hrm.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 04:54:17 AM PDT

Sounds like the culture of Sweden is relaxed, levelheaded, and sensible about more than just sex. :)

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Try enforcing a parents responsiblilty these days.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 05:15:58 PM PDT

Go ahead.

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Issues I see with most EULA[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Jarulf on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 02:23:18 AM PDT

First, let me say that I am writing this from an European perspective since I live there and am not fully aware of for example US consumer laws. Although at times I am wondering if there is none, I am sure there would be some that are applicable to the EULA situation.

From my point of view, there are several problems with the EULA and how they are applied and used.

1. The way most EULA are applied is basically that first there is a purchase in a store (which is regulated through various (consumer) sale laws and perhaps other laws as well. Basically a contract or deal between you and the store. After that, you are almost "forced" into a contract with the software manufacturer which in addition also cancels the purchase deal/contract with the store.

Questions arising are several, apparently you no longer own the copy of the software in question (according to the EULA), yet has it in your possession? Are you hiring it? Are you in possession illegally (since it is not yours in anyway and so on). Suppose you have not yet paid do you still have to pay the shop, after all, it was after all not a purchase and you don't own the software either, what claims would the shop have? And if it has any, how can the EULA still apply since it say otherwise. If you rent (for lifetime and for a one time payment, and disregard what you call it, fore example license instead of renting and so on, just calling it something else does not really get you away from laws, does it? Or all sales would be gifts or whatever that circumvent laws), why can't you get all the normal benefits from that, like a new copy if the old one defects or stop working? Can one really enter into two conflicting contracts (sale with store and not sale with software manufacturer) and still be bound by both? How is conflicts sorted out? And how is the situation/legal state in-between the purchase and for example installation?

Looking at the "licensing" issue, a license would typically be something you get to be allowed to do something you otherwise would not, why else get a license to start with? Most countries copyright law allows for the type of necessary copying occurring when you use software (like copying into computer memory, hard disc and so on) that are necessary to run the software, so one can't claim that it is needed for that reason. There is no other copyright "right" of the copyright holder that you violate when using software, so why would you need a license to start with? In many cases you can even install programs manually (although it can get tricky) or perhaps even use programs your wife or other family member bought you and installed. What is the situation there, again, you are not doing anything wrong, nor is really anyone else either. Even the whole formalities surrounding the EULA agreement is in many times not really a correct way to form a contract, at least not in some countries. For example, the "agreement" needs to reach the one making the offer, that is the software manufacturer, in most cases it does not happen. Also, what are acceptable "agreement" actions for forming contracts? Using a "clicking on a button that you can't avoid doing to use something you bought" apparently is OK. Would "walk on the left side of the street next time you leave the house" be OK? After all, you have a choice to walk on the right side? What about "leaving your house through the front door next time"? As said, there is nothing wrong with using the software you previous bought (or did not bought, doesn't matter) without agreeing to additional contracts, so how is that NOT forcing a contract onto someone? Would people argue the same if their next toaster has a paper were you put the bread saying that if you remove the paper, you agree to no longer own the toaster and can only use the toaster manufacturers bread in it and that they can come and pick up the toaster at any time since you just own a license to use the toaster? If not, why is that situation different? There are many other similar questions and considerations in my opinion.

Assuming there actually is no problems with anything said so far, we still have the protection of consumers from laws (and this may vary with country apparently a lot) that doesn't allow for unfair contract terms. In the case of Europe, each country should by now (or soon) for example have implemented the directive on unfair terms in consumer contracts. Just click on the link to the directive and pick your language of choice from the list:

http://europa.eu.int/clab/

To me, reading it is more or less like reading a list of all the things typically mentioned in an EULA. Apparently most of what is said in a typical EULA would not pass the laws implementing the directive. Do something similarly exist for example in USA?

So in all, it seems to me, even if EULA would be possible and not in conflict with normal purchase in stores, and even if the formation of EULA are actually needed and done in the proper way, typical consumer protection laws would make them useless anyway. So why has they not been challenged so far and why do they continue to exist? And why should we be worried about them to start with?


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If software is "rented"...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Reziac on Fri Apr 15, 2005 at 08:49:23 AM PDT

... then why isn't it subject to all the usual legal stuff regarding property rentals?

Such as, the actual owner may be responsible for maintenance, taxes, insurance, and the like.

Hmm. This looks like legal fun for someone... :)
~REZ~
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Censorship clauses reach a new low.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 04:57:29 AM PDT

From http://spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm#pt2004_note 3. COPYRIGHT. All title and copyrights in and to the software product (including but not limited to any images, photographs, animations, video, audio, music, text, and "applets" incorporated into the software product), the accompanying printed materials, and any copies of the software product are owned by the Author of this Software. The software product is protected by copyright laws and international treaty provisions. Therefore, you must treat the software product like any other copyrighted material except that you may install the software product on a single computer provided you keep the original solely for backup or archival purposes. [...] 12. By using this software you agree not to take or use screenshots of the software and understand doing so will result in legal action being taken against you. You understand Screenshots are copyrighted protected material of the software owner. 13. By using this software you agree that you are not the owner of, affiliated with, or a member of spywarewarrior.com Good grief -- censorship clauses directed not just at benchmark results, but any kind of reviews, screenshots, videos, or other reporting about the software. And, to top it off, a specific injunction against specific parties using the software -- is that even the teeniest bit legal?!

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A quick solution for heavy-handed terms[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Wed Feb 23, 2005 at 07:34:32 AM PDT

Don't use any product that Spyware Warrior sells, period. If they're going to act like a bunch of jack-booted thugs, then treat them accordingly. The company will either get an "attitude adjustment" or they'll go out of business.

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Re: A quick solution for heavy-handed terms[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Ed Foster on Wed Feb 23, 2005 at 01:32:02 PM PDT

No, it's not Spyware Warrior's terms because the terms are actually directed against Spyware Warrior. If you look at the above URL, it appears the EULA was that of Privacy Tools 2004, a supposed anti-spyware tool that Spyware Warrior had on its very useful list of suspect products. -- Ed

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Hi[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
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Ed: You Go, Guy![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 04:49:28 PM PDT

Don't worry about beating this EULA horse ... he ain't dead yet. I've got a lot more patience for reading about your battle against 'em than I have for being forced to click "I agree" when I mean "I give up."

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Basic rules[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 24, 2005 at 06:37:58 AM PDT

I wonder... The term of a contract must be known by both sides before signing it and they can't be changed after the fact unless both sides agree.

How many EULA are still valid after you apply these two simple rules?

JR

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