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EULAs and DRM Make Ugly Music Together

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 12:39:56 AM PDT

You know, I guess we actually have to be grateful to Sony. Without them, who knows how long it would have taken the world to realize what a lethal combination DRM and EULAs can be for even our most basic rights? In fact, with Sony's help, the old threat of electronic self help is now being made palpable for all to see.


As the storm over Sony's rootkit-installing DRM continues to rage, Fred von Lohmann of the Electronic Frontier Foundation yesterday posted a blog item about the EULA that now comes with those Sony CDs. It's important to keep in mind, he points out, that the music is sold, not licensed. "You own it outright," von Lohmann writes. "You're allowed to do anything with it you like, so long as you don't violate one of the exclusive rights reserved to the copyright owner. So you can play the CD at your next dinner party (copyright owners get no rights over private performances), you can loan it to a friend (thanks to the 'first sale' doctrine), or make a copy for use on your iPod (thanks to 'fair use'). Every use that falls outside the limited exclusive rights of the copyright owner belongs to you, the owner of the CD."

But if you want to play the CD on your computer, under the Sony EULA all those rights are "licensed" away. As von Lohmann notes, if your CD is stolen, Sony's licensing rules would require you to erase any of the music you still have on your computer. Playing the music on your computer at work is prohibited, as is taking it with you out of the country (unless it's to the European Economic Area). And of the course the EULA does not allow any altering, changing, or making derivatives works from the music, even those that clearly fall under fair use.

Most astoundingly, Sony actually has the sheer gall to say you lose your rights to play the music on your computer if you file for bankruptcy. All your rights under the EULA are automatically terminated if you "file a voluntary petition or are subject to an involuntary petition under applicable bankruptcy laws, are declared insolvent, make an assignment for the benefit of creditors, or are served with a writ of attachment, writ of execution, garnishment or other legal process pertaining to any of your assets or property." File for Chapter 11, lose your right to use the things you've already paid for - sounds like a plan corporate America could get behind.

Of course, we've seen all sorts of nasty EULA terms (including a similar bankruptcy provision in the AutoCad EULA) before. So the various outrages in Sony's EULA might be mostly of academic interest if it weren't for the fact they are coupled with intrusive DRM intended to enforce some or all of them. "Sony-BMG can install and use backdoors in the copy protection software or media player to 'enforce their rights' against you, at any time, without notice," writes EFF's von Lohmann. "And Sony-BMG disclaims any liability if this 'self help' crashes your computer, exposes you to security risks, or any other harm."

With the at least formal demise of UCITA, it's been a while since I wrote about the electronic self help issue. To refresh your memory, electronic self help is the idea that software vendors would have the EULA-sanctioned right to electronically repossess your software whenever they deem it appropriate. The biggest concern with it was not just that you could arbitrarily be deprived of the use of a product you had paid for, but the security risks posed to your systems and networks by the very existence of the backdoor mechanisms self-help requires. In addition, since all liability for any resulting damage can also be disclaimed in the EULA, there is no risk to the vendor in recklessly, surreptitiously, or maliciously employing self-help mechanisms. Hey, they could even sic some rootkit-type spyware on you.

In other words, the fear about electronic self help being codified in law was always that it would mean companies could cavalierly do what Sony has cavalierly done. So what happens to Sony now will tell us a lot about whether or not we all now actually live under a UCITA-like legal system. I must admit that I'm a bit surprised that the first software company to push it this far would be a music publisher rather than a Microsoft or a Computer Associates. Unfortunately, that just goes to show how much broader and deeper the threat to us all really goes. When EULAs and DRM play in concert, it isn't going to be music to any customer's ears.

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Freakin' Ridiculous[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 05:01:40 AM PDT

Sorry, but it's long past time... Big Business, you've abused copyright for way too long, it's finally time to repeal it. YOu keep abusing the public and cheating people left and right, we're taking your toy "copyright" away from you...

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#126)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 09:32:35 PM PDT

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Eweek Article[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 06:00:10 AM PDT

Eweek has a new article about this and Sony's attempt to fix things that just made it worse: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1883820,00.asp What I find most appalling in this article: "Most people don't know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it," Thomas Hesse, president of Sony BMG's global digital business, said in an interview with National Public Radio on Friday. There is also some discussion of encrypted phone home traffic. Sony claims it is just so they can tell what you are playing and display appropriate banner information in the player application. if that is the case then (1) Why is it in the security software and not the player app and (2) Why does it need to be encrypted?

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DRM and Sony[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 07:46:04 AM PDT

I bought the recent Carly Simon CD/DVD "Dual Disk" recently, and, while I've enjoyed the music, I intensely dislike the fact that I can't rip it to my hard drive. It won't even play properly on the CD side in my six month old Onyoko CD/DVD player; instead, I have to play it on the DVD side, which means I have to wait for the menu to appear before playing it. I've seen a few other albums in this format and have passed on purchasing them for this very reason.

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Virus Alert- Sony DRM - Washington Post Article[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by srynas on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 09:51:49 AM PDT

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/11/virus_writers_e.html

Brian Krebs on Computer Security
Virus Writers Exploit Sony Anti-Piracy Software

This was bound to happen.

Anti-virus maker Sophos is reporting that it has spotted an e-mail going around that tries to exploit the controversial file-hiding abilities of anti-piracy software embedded on some of Sony BMG's music CDs.

According to Sophos, the e-mail, posing as a message from a British business magazine, begins:

"Hello, Your photograph was forwarded to us as part of an article we are publishing for our December edition of Total Business Monthly. Can you check over the format and get back to us with your approval or any changes? If the picture is not to your liking then please send a preferred one. We have attached the photo with the article here."

If the recipient has Sony's anti-piracy installed on his or her machine and happens to click on the file attached to the e-mail, the computer is infected with a Trojan horse that copies a file to the victim's machine -- "$sys$drv.exe."

As Security Fix has noted in past posts, the Sony software successfully hides any file with the "$sys$" convention in it.

Sophos, which is based in Denmark, said it would issue a tool later today to detect the existence of Sony's DRM copy-protection on Windows computers, disable it, and prevent it from re-installing.

Sony could be in big trouble soon. The emergence of this virus should provide ample fodder to the class action suit that was recently filed in California against Sony.

UPDATE, 12:36 p.m. EST: Finnish anti-virus company F-Secure Corp. says the nasty bug in question is a bot program designed to force the infected computer to connect to an Internet relay chat server where the attacker who created it can update the infected PC with additional software, delete files, or command the machine to attack other computers online. According to F-Secure, the bot program does not work due to a programming flaw. However, given the enormous amount of public attention paid to the Sony anti-piracy software, working variants are likely to emerge within a short time.

By Brian Krebs | November 10, 2005; 11:57 AM ET | Category: Latest Warnings
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"Sophos, which is based in Denmark, said it would issue a tool later today to detect the existence of Sony's DRM copy-protection on Windows computers, disable it, and prevent it from re-installing."

Good for Sophos.

You know, Kaspersky, F-Secure, and Sophos come out of this really well; Symantec and Microsoft come out of it really badly.

There is clear evidence - including crytic comments at microsoft.com itself - that indicate that Microsoft has known about the rootkit for quite some time. However, Microsoft has said very little and recent inquirers have been told that the Malicious Software Removal Tool will *not* flag the Sony rootkit.

Here are people messing around with the Windows kernel and hiding what they're doing and Microsoft knows and JUST DOES NOT CARE. It would sooner suck up to Sony than protect its own customers.

Likewise, First 4 Internet has said that Symantec, the makers of Norton "antivirus" helped them develop the rootkit. Symantec has not denied this.

Symantec has now bowed to pressure and says that some of its products will detect the rootkit but not remove it. And it actually declares on its site that the Sony spyware is "a legitimate application". Legitimate! What a joke Symantec! What you say; let's see what the courts say, huh?

I'll never buy another Norton anti-virus product. You simply can't rely on Symantec to protect you. They should re-name the Norton AV product to "Norton anti-some-viruses-and-pro-some-others".

Posted by: Brett | Nov 10, 2005 12:27:42 PM

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Hi[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#81)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 05:07:53 AM PDT



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A question...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 10:03:14 AM PDT

I have a question about these Sony CDs. Can anyone answer it for me? Will the music tracks on these "rootkit" CDs play in a plain vanilla CD player? If they will, why would it not be possible to play them in a computer if you disabled the installation of the rootkit software (disable autoplay)? Don't the music tracks themselves have to be pretty generic if a dumb player can recognize and play them? If you don't allow the Sony software to "get in the way", wouldn't these tracks be playable (and ripable) by any CD player/ripper software?

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Visit the Sysinternals Website[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by srynas on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 10:46:40 AM PDT

http://www.sysinternals.com/Blog/

There is an ongoing discussion on this issue, and a review of the postings should answer your question.

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CD rights vs. digital rights[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by weebles on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 10:14:54 AM PDT

Reading the posting by Fred von Lohmann, I notice that he talks about the EULA restrictions on digital copies of the CD. However, if you have a Mac or Linux box, or you have windows auto-run disabled, the Sony software wouldn't run and you wouldn't see or agree to the EULA. Nor would you access the Windows DRM protected tracks on the CD. Then what rights do you have with respect to digital copies you may make of the CDA music tracks on the CD? Also, what if you make an analog copy of the music (e.g. play it back into a VCR to record a new audio track over a video) - what rights do you have then? What if you make an analog copy and then rip that analog copy to digital?

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does the EULA apply to the CDA, or just WMA data?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 11:26:26 AM PDT

I would assume that the EULA is related to the WMA tracks on the cd, since you encounter no EULA if you don't 'run' the cd. If you were to bypass autorun, you would be playing the CDA audio, and therefore the EULA wouldn't have any weight. (IMHO)

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Solution[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 10:56:48 AM PDT

Boycott all Sony products for 30 days preferrably November 24th to December 24th. Of course, let them know that we are boycotting to protest these unreasonable EULAs and DRMs.

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not a 30 days boycott. Drive them into bankruptcy[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 07:33:16 PM PDT

I'm never buying another Sony product unless senior management 'falls on their swords' over this one. I hope they're sued into bankruptcy not only for trashing people's computers who try to remove the rootkit but also opening a door for bad guys who are using the opening to do further damage. I can live without Sony. You can too.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#131)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:39:38 PM PDT

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Keep the pressure on![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 12:59:57 PM PDT

Have you been to Amazon.com? Do you read the New York Times? If you check out the comments for Sony CDs on Amazon.com, you will find page after page of "Don't buy this CD" warnings about the rootkit DRM. And those comments are all floating to the top of the list because everyone is making them as "This comment was helpful to me." Then, at the online NYT, Business and Technology columnist David Pogue, who didn't even initially write a column on the Sony DRM (but he has now), has had his talkback forum shut down because, while the other forums have 76, 7, 151, etc. responses, his forum has over 10,000 responses (even before he wrote about the matter!!)!!! Sony, you've screwed yourself (and your artists) royally!

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Sony question[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by pragmatic on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 03:14:43 PM PDT

A question, given the comments about the Sony spyware/rootkit. My home computer is not connected to the internet at all. I chose to not have a landline installed. I mainly use the computer for video and photo editing, occasionally playing CDs. The question is, since there would be no way for the software to connect and send information to Sony, would it then disable the CD or my computer?

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re: Sony question[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 10:45:23 AM PDT

It would not disable the CD or your computer, unless you have an incompatible CD drive. (If you do, you would not be able to fix it.) However, the rootkit and hidden DRM files would be installed, and the CD would only be playable if you used the Sony player that comes with the disc. If you later wanted to unhide and remove the rootkit you would probably disable your CD player unless you sign your private life away to Sony and then go through some serious Registry gymnastics. If you ever do connect to the internet for whatever reason (new software? system patches?) you would be prey to whatever viruses are trying to leverage the rootkit. It's not worth it.

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EULAs and DRM[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Tinman on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 08:20:48 PM PDT

I used to be a member of the BMG CD club long ago, that is until they started putting copy protection crap on their music CD's that prevented you from listening to the music on your computer. It also affected many home and auto CD players. And they didn't even bother to put a notice on the CD that it had this protection on it. I dumped them as soon as I discovered it. I also read an article several years back that stated that all of the blank CD/DVD media that you buy has a special tax added to it that is given to the music industry to offset piracy. I used to have a copy of this article, however the CD that I had it backed up on (and paid the tax on) got an error on it and I lost it all.... Hollywood and the RIAA could care less about fair use. The bottom line is the almighty dollar and that's all they care about. The only way to fight these people that are paying millions for lobbyist to make laws against us is to join and support organizations like the EFF. I have been a paying supporter for over 3 years now. Of course it helps to contact your Representatives too, which the EFF makes it easy to do with automatic contact forms. So it's time to get off the pot, because if you just sit there and do nothing, your going to wind up with EULA's that will create havoc in every aspect of your rights.....
((((TINMAN))))
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Only "music" CD-Rs go to the RIAA...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#30)
by Anonymous User on Sat Nov 12, 2005 at 05:08:44 PM PDT

Back when the first home stereo component CD-R equipment first appeared in 1998, the equipment had no restrictions on copying and recording. So, people could use their CD-recorders as duplicators (just like you could make copies of cassettes using dual-deck players, but the CD copies were digitally perfect). In fact, with the original home audio CD recorders, you could make copies of copies of copies of copies... Audio equipment manufacturers (specifically Denon) got sued by the RIAA. The settlement was that they would make equipment that wouldn't make copies of copies and would require specially encoded CD-Rs, with the money going to reimburse artists for lost income due to piracy. (I wonder how much money has actually been distributed...) And the "Music CD-R" was born. PC equipment was exempted from this settlement since data storage was the primary purpose of computer CD-R drives.

This situation only applies for the US. --All-- CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, flash media, MP3 players, etc. sold in Canada have a "Canadian artist piracy reimbursement" built-into the prices of those products. (To any Canadians reading this--buy your CD/DVD media in the US. CD/DVD media prices are 2-3x more expensive in Canada because of this). However, I just read that this was just ruled against in Canada so that's all in limbo.

In a nutshell, never buy a "Music CD-R" for PC use! That money goes straight to the RIAA... The phrase "Music CD-R" is intentionally deceptive to begin with--they don't play any better in audio CD players than "Data" CD-Rs.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#129)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:39:04 PM PDT

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Does Sony viloate M$ Windows EULA?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 10:46:58 PM PDT

If I understand this correctly, then Sony is altering the operating system by changing the kernal. I thought M$ prohibited that in no uncertain terms. Wonder why M$ isn't sueing Sony? BIG bucks there and it would be all profit too. Oh and the positive pr for M$ (protecting our users) would be a bonus. Does make ya wonder just why a suit has not been filed or at least threatened. Has Bill G. lost it?

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M$[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 11:17:16 PM PDT

I bet M$ is seriously pissed at Sony behind the scenes, but doesn't want to publically say anything against Sony. M$ wants a big piece of the entertainment dollar, and has to be nice to the entertaiment industry to get it.  Plus, Sony is one of their larger OS customers, I'd guess. Wouldn't look good to sue a client. Not that Sony and the other RIAA/MPAA members have a problem with sueing their customers. It would be nice (and well-deserved) to have M$ sue them, but I'm betting it won't happen.

I was actually considering one of the new Sony SXRD TV's before this hit, but I'm not having a penny of my money go to a corporation who will use it against me.

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They're in the same boat, too.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#32)
by foxyshadis1 on Sat Nov 12, 2005 at 10:19:57 PM PDT

And Microsoft has been pushing these tactics for years, so it would be counter to their interests of adding more DRM. Everything from Palladium, to XP Activation, to WMA DRM'd ripping, and they will probably include new inroads in Vista one way or another to please their various constituents. (OS-level activation APIs for third-parties to use, similar to MSI?)

I wouldn't be surprised to see Microsoft actually on Sony's side behind the scenes of this one, a major loss could tie their hands in many ways.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#130)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:39:11 PM PDT

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#134)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:40:18 PM PDT

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We owe Sony a vote of thanks![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by byelen on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 07:04:02 AM PDT

Indeed we do! The average consumer knows nothing about DRM and the accompany controversy. They figure "I'm not downloading music anyway, so who cares". Finally, we have a case that is hitting popular media (I've seen two articles in my local newspaper) with a smoking gun "Look - it's a new, nasty virus, and Sony made it possible!". So, update your antivirus and anispyware engines, lean back, and watch the fun!

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I agree[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Garminski on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 07:40:12 AM PDT

We owe Sony a big thank you. The average consumer is not aware of DRM issues figuing "it doesn't apply to me because I am not doing anything wrong". Most people I talk with also seem to figure that EULA's are "no big deal" just a bunch of lawyer gobblygook that doens't mean anything. They don't read them because they don't feel anyone is watching them or no one will care or know if they don't follow every "detail" in those things. Thanks to Sony people are now looking at this topic and saying "this isn't right". Sony has just done the computer end users a great service by bringing this to the attention of the masses. Hopefully, enough people start complaining and contacting their Representatives that some of this EULA and DRM crap can be reigned back in towards reality.

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DHS Official Weighs In on Sony - Washington Post[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#21)
by srynas on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 11:00:29 AM PDT

Brian Krebs on Computer Security reports.  Please see full article.

"In a remark clearly aimed directly at Sony and other labels, Stewart continued: "It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer. And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days."

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/11/the_bush_admini.html

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#121)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 09:00:21 PM PDT

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Washington Post Onboard Now[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by srynas on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 01:10:41 PM PDT

Sony to Stop Controversial CD Software

By Ted Bridis
The Associated Press
Friday, November 11, 2005; 2:02 PM

Stung by continuing criticism, the world's second-largest music label, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, promised Friday to temporarily suspend making music CDs with antipiracy technology that can leave computers vulnerable to hackers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111100632.html

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So they're stopping manufacturing...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#42)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 15, 2005 at 02:31:08 PM PDT

What are they doing with the CDs that are already in the pipeline to the public?

Sony ought to be issuing a recall or be making arrangements for people who've already purchased one if the DRM-encumbered discs to receive a DRM-free replacement.

I have electronics purchases planned for Christmas gifts. Sony products are not on my list because of this incident.

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USA Today - Sony to Recall[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#44)
by srynas on Tue Nov 15, 2005 at 02:48:41 PM PDT

USA Today article: "Sony to pull controversial CDs, offer swap".

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2005-11-14-sony-cds_x.htm

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#120)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 08:54:19 PM PDT

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European Group Battles Copy-Protected CDs[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by srynas on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 01:20:04 PM PDT

Washington Post Article

European Group Battles Copy-Protected CDs

By HELENA SPONGENBERG
The Associated Press
Thursday, November 10, 2005; 8:49 PM

BRUSSELS, Belgium -- The music industry should stop criminalizing customers and limiting their freedom in the battle against piracy, a European consumers' group said Thursday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/10/AR2005111001018.html

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Sony Needs to Recall.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by srynas on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 01:42:16 PM PDT

Sony is discontinuing, at least temporarily, this technology. However, there is no mention in the news release of recalling these CDs and providing customers with new CDs. Until these CDs are vaporized, they are a threat.

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USA Today - Sony to Recall[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#37)
by srynas on Tue Nov 15, 2005 at 05:34:01 AM PDT

USA Today article: "Sony to pull controversial CDs, offer swap".

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2005-11-14-sony-cds_x.htm

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Make your feelings known in an accountable way.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
by Paul Hoerner on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 11:12:08 PM PDT

On Wednesday I let Sony/BMG know how I felt about their DRM by cancelling my BMG music club account. This account was over 15 years old and I've ordered hundreds of CD's through it. I let them know that I don't need to buy music that comes with DRM that restricts my fair use rights, or with software that compromises my computer security. Definitely not when I can go online and cheaply buy legal, high quality mp3 downloads that are clean.

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Relayed Message From Another Reader[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#28)
by Ed Foster on Sat Nov 12, 2005 at 02:12:33 AM PDT

I am really outraged about Sony installing root kits on PCs. I have vowed to never do business with them again.

I sent emails to Sony Music and Sony Pictures saying so and told them about the 20 items I removed from my Amazon.com wish list. I also called Sony Electronics and told them that I won't be adding to the seven Sony TVs (four were gifts), DVD players, CD players, VCRs, and headphones I've bought over the years.

There is absolutely no excuse for their immoral behavior and we should all boycott their products. I really hate to think of all the CDs and movies I really wanted that I'm not going to buy now.



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Demand a Recall[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
by srynas on Sat Nov 12, 2005 at 11:16:38 AM PDT

Recall time. Though Sony is discontinuing, at least temporarily, this technology. There is no mention in the news release of recalling these CDs and providing customers with new CDs. Until these CDs are vaporized, they are a threat.

Besides boycotting Sony, those who have these CDs should demand that Sony replace them.


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Ditto[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#41)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 15, 2005 at 01:43:20 PM PDT