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Circuit City changes rebate terms after the fact, rejects submissions

By MisterBill, Section Live Gripes
Posted on Wed Jan 12, 2005 at 07:25:37 PM PDT
Circuit City seems to make a practice of changing their rebate terms (such as expiration date) after already starting the promotion.


Circuit City seems to make a practice of changing their rebate terms (such as expiration date) after already starting the promotion. In the case of their program YA515, here they made two changes. First, they added the lovely little words "(In-Store Only)" to the form, even though some of the items had been listed on their website as available for ordering with the rebate. Then, they shortened the date of the rebate to 12/22, after originally offering it until 12/31. The 12/31 date had been printed on rebate forms for items purchased in the store, and in fact was still shown on the online printable form, although they did change the online submission version to show the 12/22 date, and new purchases did not get rebate forms printed. Now, what is particularly interesting about YA515 is that there are over a dozen different items on it, and it's not unreasonable to expect that a customer would see the additional items available on the form and want to go back to get another one. Plus, the printable form on their website continued to show the 12/31/04 expiration date until January 5th, 2005, almost a full week after the original expiration date had passed, and two weeks after the modified expiration date. By the way, here's what the original rebate form looked like.

Circuit City had started rejecting program YA515 rebate submissions for online purchases, but apparently has gotten enough complaints that they will now approve them if you call and complain, and I believe that new submissions are being approved (I do not believe that the rejected ones are being automatically fixed, however). However, they have refused to acknowledge their mistake in shortening the rebate period and as a result rebates for items purchased on 12/23 and later are now starting to be rejected.

A similar problem exists with program YA510 here, except in that case, one of the two items on the rebate form was actually advertised as free after rebate on December 23rd, when the rebate was no longer valid. I'm sure we have not heard the last of that rebate, either. And lest you think these are isolated cases, I am told that Circuit City has made similar changes to rebate programs in the past.

Rebates are difficult enough for consumers without activity that borders on fraudulent. Sadly, Circuit City doesn't seem to feel that there is anything wrong with what they are doing. It's unfortunate, because on rebates that they don't play games with, they are generally pretty decent, paying quickly and not rejecting many valid submissions.

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Rebates are a pain in the ASS[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by spocko on Wed Jan 12, 2005 at 08:17:00 PM PDT

I'm so tired of having to jump through hopes for rebates. I know that they COUNT on people not actually filling out the paperwork and defaulting on the rebate. I'd like to see more consumer groups go after companies that do stuff like this so that the impulse to do rebates is dimished.
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rebates suck[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by wawadave on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 11:53:44 AM PDT

rebates are a con game!! you give them more money than you want to pay and hope they give it back?? what kind of lame marketing is this? why do so many fall for it??
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This is not your standard rebate nonsense..[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by MisterBill on Wed Jan 12, 2005 at 10:26:14 PM PDT

This isn't the standard rebate game where they rely on your making a mistake but if you do it right you stand a good chance of getting your money. This is way beyond that. This is as close as you can get to fraud without getting there. BTW I have a new CC story, just happened in the past few hours. I bought two r/c trucks (two different models) on a Saturday. On Sunday they were free after rebate so I went back to the store to return and rebuy them. The customer service rep did the return and rebuy on the same transaction as the original purchase and said it would be fine to get the rebate. Sure enough, a new rebate form printed out for $50 back on the purchase of both items, with the date of the re-purchase. Well I just got word from someone who did the same thing that his rebate has been rejected, they claim they use the original transaction date as the purchase date, and they are unwilling to approve his rebate. They told him to go to his local store to see if he can get them to pay it. This is absolutely incredible. Circuit City is obviously doing things simply to alienate customers, and it appears that their "customer service" people (most of whom have been outsourced to India and are unable to answer any question that they do not have a scripted answer to) are unwilling or unable to make any exceptions to satisfy unhappy customers. Best Buy at least came out and said they were declaring war on their unwanted customers. Circuit City's approach just seems to be piss them off so they'll leave on their own. And by the way, I was in contact with someone from CC's CEO's office and they promised to get back to me and never did. Then I complained via PlanetFeedback and got no response. If they can't bother to respond, then I guess I have no choice but to let as many people as possible know how they treat their customers.

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Send an email to the Rebate Center - use the FTC[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 08:40:29 PM PDT

Just go to circuitcityrebates.com and look for the email address of their rebate center. The same thing happened to me recently...except for the fact that I didn't return my item to get the rebate, it was just damated. Anyway, there was an additional rebate at that time and the receipt printed and all. However, it got rejected by CC. What did I do? I just sent an email to their rebate center threatening to file a complaint to the BBB, the FTC and let the media and Consumer Reports know about it. They immediately apologized and in 5 DAYS I got my rebate check. You have to take advantage, now that CompUSA was fingered by the Feds for non payment of rebates, to let them know that they'll also be on the hook for their irresponsible acts if they do not comply with the proper payment of rebates. It worked for me!!!

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CC does not care[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by LCMILL on Thu Mar 24, 2005 at 10:10:41 PM PDT

Circuit City's customer service ends after they get your money. I do not have a major issue if problems arise, but Circuit City fails to respond to "anything" quickly once the sale is concluded. They always have some glitch or issue with their rebates. This outsourcing of customer service is a joke...The people never speak English and as you say if the question deviates from their script, they are unable to answer.

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Done with Circuit City[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Tonytronic on Thu Dec 01, 2005 at 05:30:16 PM PDT

I recommend that everyone who reads this pass it on. Let the dollars do the talking. I too with many many others have gotton bent over by Circuit City and the teaser prices that come after rebates. Listen people they purposly want you to screw up and they make it as difficult as poosible by having multipule different rebates short timelines for post marks special fill in points on rebate forms, and also different mailing addresses for the different rebates. In my circumstance, I bought a package deal computer that came with a printer, and the printer was out of stock, and you cannot send the rebate without the UPC barcode off the printer box, so you guessed it the printer was mailed out late which means that I am no longer eligible to send the rebate by the right postmark date. I Will NEVER PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM CIRCUIT CITY AGAIN. LIFETIME BOYCOTT. Learn from my mistake and don't get bent over by Circuit City. If you see something you like get it somewere else!!!

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SCAM[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 07:45:05 PM PDT

Yes, Circuit City is absolutely involved in bad business practices because they are ultimately responsible for their advertising regardless of who is signing the rebate check. I have three separate rebates and had not received reimbursement checks after 3 months. When I called the 1-800 numbers on the rebate forms EACH one of the call centers said they had not received my submissions. The submission letters were sent with USPS delivery confirmation and each one of the letters had indeed reached their destinations within a week. This means that the rebate centers throw away their mail, the rebate centers are lying about not receiving rebates or the post office is lying. I think that the rebate centers count on the consumer not keeping copies/ records of all of the rebate information and then saying that you are out of luck when it "vanishes" in the mail. If you don't report these fraudulent businesses then they will continue to steal. I have made such a report to the Better Business Bureau and will NEVER shop at Circuit City again.

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The Scam[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Sun Jan 23, 2005 at 04:34:40 PM PDT

Well it seems that what Circuit City is doing is what Linsky and Sprint did to me almost to the letter. I think they must be passing the game plan around. They both had disappearing and reamerging end dates Sprint had a catch 22 situation. When they told you you did not send in everything and you called, you got a message that you can't call until 6 weeks, yet they have sent you the postcard in 2weeks. You had a chance to send in a copy of the receipt or bar code. The catch was by the time you resubmitted it the expiration date had cancelled the whole deal. They had 3 different expiration dates, Email, postcard and the store brocheure. To cut to the chase I E-mailed them and told them that this whole thing stunk of fraud, I had read similar reports on the internet and I was going to turn it over to the Federal Trade Commission. Hey, guess what, I got my rebate(s). This a racket to encourage you to buy and them they don't want to pay off. By the way they are on shaky financial ground at this moment. Sounds coincedental doesn't it? I think a drunk detective with a broken magnifying glass could solve this one! They only understand one thing, Force. Once they know you are not going to take it they yeild. They figure a percentage of people will not even send it in and they can screw a percentage and pay off under pressure and still keep money.

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Rebates[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 03:19:45 PM PDT

Lowes Building Material pulled a similar Scam.I purchased a $100.oo Item in June of 2004,after getting the BBB involved my Rebate finally came in in the middle of December 2004. I believe the Rebate Racket was designed by Business to reduce their Taxes,so they offered the Local Govs a Deal,don't tax us,but hose down the Customer. The seven or more Percent Sales Tax,that you paid on your Rebate is gone,you're screwed out of it cleverly.Imagine what it costs you getting several thousand Dollars worth of Car Rebate! Slick Scam,eh??

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Circuit City - customer revenge.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 12:00:34 PM PDT

Circuit City always has had a rep for bait/switch and other scams so it doesn't seem like they've changed. However, one of my friends who had been taken once in the past on a b&s got over on them for $100. They sent him a $100 off electronics customer coupon and letter in the mail for his region of the country. Well it turns out that that was a mistake (could you imagine the already pathetic customer service in the stores when that coupon hit!) and within a week he received a letter stating same and apologizing for it and saying that the coupon was invalid. He was mad since he had been looking for a new vcr and was going to use the coupon. Well, he said screw them. Since he was planning to visit a relative in a different region about two weeks later he took the coupon with him to buy a new vcr (when those cost $200-$300). He presented the coupon and cash for the vcr and of course the coupon didn't scan or work. But due to the pathetic customer service, the cashier called the manager over and the manager OK'ed the coupon. Since the coupon didn't mention a region, the manager probably hadn't seen it or dealt with it in the way the originating regions stores had. My friend said he basically paid for his gas and food to visit his relative just in the $100 off on the vcr.

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Rebates[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 10:13:26 AM PDT

The best experience I've had with a rebate was with Staple's last month - one of the employees actually walked me through all the steps using their web system, saying that the two rebates (both for an Averatec laptop) would arrive in approximately one month. No barcodes to clip, no tiny spaces for my name/address, no hassle.

And one month nearly to the day, I received the checks in the mail. Right now I'm comptemplating whether or not to bother with a $10 Linksys router rebate, where I would wait for two months or so to get the rebate. Maybe I'll just start buying more from stores that offer the Staples style rebate system. Better, faster, much easier.

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Staples is good ,but they had their problems[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by MisterBill on Tue Jan 25, 2005 at 08:47:34 AM PDT

Yes, Staples new online rebate system is great. But they had their problems initially. I had a rebate stuck in "pending" status for 6 weeks. No one could fix it or resubmit it for me. Finally thy fixed the problem, and I hope to have my rebate check soon, but it will be almost 2 months since I purchased the item. Circuit City's system is not that bad, either, when they don't change dates on you! They let you register your rebate online, and while you do have to mail it in, at least you don't have to write the form. Also their registers are set up to prefill your name and address when they have it. And they let you send a photocopy of the UPC instead of the original. Unfortunately, when they start changing terms on rebates and refusing to honor the original terms, even when the customer complains, all that good stuff gets overshadowed by the fraudulent activities. Update on my Circuit City issue. I wrote to the Virgnia Attorney General's office, and someone there forwarded my complaint to CC's legal department. Hopefully I will get some action (or maybe be banned permanently from my local CC store :-( ).

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CompUSA is Responsible For Rebates[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by srynas on Tue Mar 15, 2005 at 05:17:26 AM PDT

The Washington Post (MArch 12, 2005) reported that CompUSA was found responsible for assuring that the customer gets their rebate. -------------------------------------------------- CompUSA Bound by Advertised Rebates Promotions Continued As Supplier Faltered, FTC Said in Complaint By Caroline E. Mayer Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, March 12, 2005; Page E01 The Federal Trade Commission yesterday reached a settlement with CompUSA Inc., requiring it to pay for rebates that a supplier failed to deliver to customers -- an action designed as a warning to retailers that they will be held accountable for rebates they advertise.

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Circuit City Rebate False Advertising[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 09, 2005 at 08:50:32 PM PDT

A couple of weeks ago, Circuit City put all their Netgear Gigabit networking hardware on sale (if this is the right term). I was interested in a 5-port switch, NIC and PCMCIA card. The ad showed a manufacturer and Circuit City rebate for each item, which is 6 rebates on 3 items. For the final price shown, it was worth it to fill out all the paperwork. When I did that today, I was in for a big surprise. All three items were under rebate program YE892, which allows for rebate on a single item. This means that even though I purchased three items, with a listed rebate of $10 each ($30 total), I was only going to receive a single $10 rebate on one of those items. This was evident by the fact that only one of the items appeared on the in-store rebate form. I called and complained, but the response I received was "it is clearly stated on the rebate form that the rebate is for a single item only...blah...blah...blah" I checked the form again. Yes, it does state one rebate per household and lists the qualifying products with an OR condition between them...*but*...the submittal instructions state "Please circle the qualified items..." and "A copy of the UPC barcodes...". Notice that both statements are plural. In reality, the rebate form is NOT clearly written. Unless you do research on the rebate before you purchase (which may mean a call for clarification), you will likely get screwed by Circuit City. A similar situation happened to me there about a year ago, when I purchased a couple of other Netgear products. One of the in-store rebates did not print at checkout. I caught it immediately and told the cashier. She thought it was a computer problem and just refunded me $20 on the spot for the missing rebate form (a rare happy ending). I was not so lucky this last time. A word of advice...before purchasing, research the rebates and verify every single one at checkout, even with the pressure of a long line behind you. Catching a problem at checkout puts pressure on the store to resolve it quickly to keep things moving. I wonder how many people have gone into Circuit City to purchase multiple items, only to discover that they are not eligible for all the advertised rebates! Imagine that...screwed because you are a better customer and purchase several items! On the other hand, I had no issues submitting for the Netgear rebates on all three products.

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Circuit City bait and switch rebates[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 08:46:43 AM PDT

I went in to purchase a Toshiba M55-S135 Notebook that I saw on line at Circuit City's web site that stated $350.00. When I went into the store on Monday they told me the computer was sold out, but I can return on Tuesday and get one. And oh by the way it is $300.00 rebate not $350.00 as the website had it wrong. So I went back on Tuesday and bought the notebook. Afterward I went home to download the rebate form. To my surprise, the rebate form now said it is only $200.00. I called the Circuit City'd toll free number to find out, but after talking to their, yes Indian supervisor, they told me to return the notebook if I don't like their deal. Now I maybe facing a 15% restocking fee. Lesson learned, don't ever buy from circuit City again.

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Circuit city rebate[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 07:43:47 AM PDT

The circuit city rebate system is the most complicated system. I bought a laptop. So to get the rebate I had to go online, fish through a massive list of rebate forms, many were outdated, to find the form that covers the date on which I bought the laptop. This alone is way too complex. So after the form is found I fill it in, attach the upc bar code and the receipt from the store, mail it off. Now a month later I get a letter from sucker city that my rebate submittal could not be processed due to an invalid circuit city ticket number. The letter instructs me to send the requested information to Miami. I call the number on the letter, wait forever and finally speak to Chandreni who I could barely hear. After many frustrating minutes she tells me there is an error in their system and my check will be mailed in 4-6 weeks and this is after I already waited a month. Now, after I mailed the rebate the laptop developed a problem with the screen so I took it back intending to upgrade to a more expensive model. They hit me with the 15% restocking fee to which I said no fuking way am I paying this, the unit is defective. The girl says "I can't do anything here, go get the model you want and tell them it's an exchange" I find the model and have the kid ring it up and go back to the girl and repeat that I ain't paying no 15% for a defective unit. She has the kid manager comes up. He accuses me of dropping the laptop, now I'm really pissed and go into a litany of reasons why the store should fully refund me and allow me to upgrade but he is quoting the party line about depreciation and how buying a laptop is the same as buying a car. At that point I stop listening and say "Well to me, the customer, this 15% restocking fee is a penalty on me for allowing you to sell me a piece of crap, a stupid tax". By now people are looking and agreeing so he concedes to replace the unit with exactly the same model - no charge. Never will I return to sucker city.

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