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DRM and the Lessons of History

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Tue Sep 14, 2004 at 12:11:01 AM PDT

Software publishers busily installing copy protection should look to the lessons of history. That's the warning many readers sounded in response to my recent column on the DRM wars.


"Remember DBase IV?" one reader asked rhetorically. "The best copy protection scheme at the time! Maybe you know of Lotus 1-2-3? They had the best spreadsheet -- well protected -- in the market! ... I believe most of us are getting strongly annoyed by the time spent uselessly fighting customer service for a right we paid for. When companies put a copy protection scheme in their software, they prepare the way for the ones who will overthrow them. I'd pay to know exactly how much such protection costs and how much more money it really gets. In the long term, I believe they always lose."

Many readers argued that copy protection has always been counterproductive. "As an old timer who has been in the computer industry since the CPM operating system was king, I've taken an aggressive stance against protection on software I've paid for," wrote another reader. "When 'up against the wall' from abusive software publishers, I simply go to the newsgroups and download a cracked version to get back in service. I've paid for use of the software, so I don't care if I circumvent their system. I'm a Microsoft Partner and get all the Not-For-Resale software, but it's easier for me to just bypass their protection schemes. Think for a moment ... don't abusive companies make people want to install cracked versions and never buy another program from that company?"

But another self-described old timer responded that there could be drawbacks to substituting a cracked version for your licensed copy. "Unfortunately, a major drawback to this approach is that sometimes the cracked versions are not as stable as the originals," he wrote. "Paying for software that is not reliable is probably the only thing more aggravating than the activation schemes themselves."

One reader opined that copy protection is contrary to the PC tradition. "I think it's interesting that the industry is moving to a model of product licensing that we all tried to flee from under older Unix systems," the reader wrote. "Many a Unix administrator will commiserate over getting FlexLM running properly to keep all of the licenses working. And FlexLM was the easiest of the solutions out there to keep running, and that's certainly damning with faint praise. PC software flourished because of this lax licensing. The IBM PC Jr. demonstrated this quite well, as it added copy protection to an already long list of crippling features, contributing to its demise. I know software companies want to protect their investments, and I have no problem with them protecting their software against illegal usage, but transferring software between machines should not involve contacting the company."

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There must be a better way[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by OldFossil on Tue Sep 14, 2004 at 12:18:42 PM PDT

I've been wrestling with licensing issues for my own company's software as well as annoyed in the extreme by all of the "product activation" idiocy out there.

The majority of users of complicated software need support, and it's the complicated, specialized, high-value software that tends to be expensive.  I truly believe that most people are honest and will pay for what they use.  And that most of the rest will become honest, even if they weren't already, when they need support.  There will always be people who want to try before they buy, and we actually encourage them to do so with our free downloadable evaluation copies.

Copy protection rears its ugly head about once every ten years.  Product activation is an abomination.  We should be looking for ways to balance authors' need for protection with users' need for free access and fair use of what they have purchased.  I don't think copy protection of any sort, and product activation in particular, will ever be effective long-term guarantees.

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Copy Protected Software[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Seaan on Tue Sep 14, 2004 at 12:23:04 PM PDT

During the PC-XT era I purchased a bunch of copy-protected software that failed to work with the next generation of machines (mostly 360K floppy related hardware tricks). I lost hundereds of dollars in software programs that became unusable. I won't make that mistake again. Just this weekend I nearly lost the ability to access my work due to copy-protection. I moved to a new machine, and could not find the original Visio 3.5 CD, and the Visio 4.1 disk I did have was an upgrade version which required the old program to be installed. Luckily I had kept the serial number of the old disk around, which allowed me to use a bypass feature to install 4.1. If I had not been so organized, I would have been cheated out of another several hundered dollars (I recall that I paid almost $400 just for the upgrade version). And when it comes to "phone-home" copy protection schemes - no way! Visio provided a "phone-home" alterate method (I checked into it before I found the serial number). I have no idea of what Microsoft's current policy is (since they purchase Visio), but given the fact they have discountined support for Visio 2000 (which I use at work), I don't think there was much chance it would be good anymore. Bottomline, if you plan to use your software for more than a year or so, or have any chance of changing computers - stay far, far, away from any type of copy protection.

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The companies keep getting amnesia....[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Tue Sep 14, 2004 at 03:01:12 PM PDT

I am also an "old-timer" (read: 38) who remembers the days of yore, when PCs were proprietary command-line interface driven machines, and an Apple ][ made its debut. The copy protection that came out for the software were mainly disk-based, meaning that sectors were encoded in a certain way to make unaccessable to its native OS. The software, sadly, tended to also be problematic, and I was forced in several cases to grab the cracked version of such programs in order to use them. These pirated versions did tend to run more reliably, and several could fit on a 100K (Apple ][) or 360K (IBM PC) disk. And if you ever wanted to, say, store your new software on the hard drive for either machine........ Copy protection was easily circumvented: talk to your local pirate (any high school has one), get DiskLock to copy the disk, or contact your BBS for a copy. When the number of floppies increased, or CDs came out, copy protection took a recess for a time, and software "became" more convenient to install and use. Scroll ahead 10 or 20 years, and the problem re-emerges, with newer, more intrusive, and even buggier "solutions". I'm not sure why this happens. Most of the companies that had some sort of copy protection are still around, with the most onerous (Hayden being one that REALLY sticks in my craw) out of business. Maybe they think they can get away with this because of "the Internet Age" or something, but trust me that it'll backfire like some of the "800-DIAL-HOME" solutions I had the misfortune to lay my eyes on. If their desire is to drive the legit customers away, and make piracy more desirable, they are doing an excellent job. Now and then.

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History? What's history?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by whatsburning on Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 07:21:54 AM PDT

Another old timer here. This reoccuring issue of DRM is just another example that companies - and the world as a whole - just do not learn from mistakes made in the past. They seem to have the memory retention of a wood nymph. Everyday is clean slate with no past. If someone reminds them of business plans that failed in the past they just tell their investors "Well, they were idiots. If we finagle this or describe it that way the public won't remember and it WILL fly". Unfortunately, because of the nymph-factor they are partially right. It's up to Those Who Remember to spread the word and let those companies using excessive DRM schemes know that we will NOT tolerate it. Painting the 400lb gorrilla purple doesn't make it any more attractive - just more noticable

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The Stupidest Copy Protection Ever[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by MjBarne on Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 12:38:06 PM PDT

I've got to tell the story of what I consider to be the stupidest use of copy protection. Back in the mid 80's, I worked for my dad in a small retail computer store he owned. We sold Kaypro CP/M and IBM clones, as well as Taiwan PC clones. A company (I forget who) came out with an Apple II emulator board for the PC (essentially an Apple II on a board). It came with two support disks, one an IBM disk to initialize the machine, and the other an Apple disk to use the machine. The Apple disk was copy protected. It even came with a couple of capacitors that you had to solder on to certain brands of floppy drives so the disk could be read. This software's only use in life was to support that particular hardware, so just what was that copy protection scheme protecting against? I asked this of a couple of people at the company, and the only answer I got was "We don't want people pirating our stuff." I told them that it wasn't worth the bother of futzing around and soldering a customer's drive in the hope that maybe I could get their stuff to work. We never bought another one.

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Everyday is clean slate [ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:09:13 AM PDT

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DRM will NEVER succeed[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Sat Sep 18, 2004 at 02:29:45 PM PDT

Another real old timer here from Apple ][ days. Lotus 123 had copy protection. The new version was to be released to the public the monday AFTER Thanksgiving that year. Well, the day BEFRE Thanksgiving the cracked version of the exe file was already on the BBS for free download. Dongles can be cracked also. All it takes is someone with the basic knowledge and desire to do it and then share it with others. Publishers will always be behind the curve in this game. Those that are goning to steal are goning to steal. The publishers only make life miserable for honest users who then opt for cracked versions which can lead to justifying not buying any more of their software. We all lose but the publishers lose the most. I for one will NOT purchase such software. I have found non DRM software to do what I need to have done. No Office 2003 upgrade money for M$ nor any upgrade money for the Windows OS. I figgure it will cost M$ about $3,000 from me alone in lost sales. I will NEVER beg M$ for another authorization code because my ATI All in Wonder graphics card had to be replaced (5 and counting) or when updating my computer with a new motheboard. Will have my first Linux box up soon and start moving that direction as I want to do. That will cost all of them even more as the list of DRM protected(?) software is added to my do not buy or recommend list. Just think what super user friendly, stable and fast software they could offer if they took all of that high priced brain power and put to use solving such issues instead of just waisting it with DMR concepts that will never work right. My experience is that even those that do pirate, eventually do buy the software down the road. Plus all of the kids that pirate get to know their software and then will want their company to use it. But I guess that the old saying of "no honor amongst thieves" does apply. They rip us off so they have to know that we are ripping them off. Welcome to the world when valued and customer are mutually exclusive terms.

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Pirated software turned legal[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by tscoff on Sun Sep 19, 2004 at 08:00:52 AM PDT

You're right about one thing.  I used to have a lot of pirated software on my computer when I was 19 years old.  By the time I was 24 everything on my computer was legal and I've stayed that way to this day.  I matured and I paid for the software which I use and and I deleted the software which I didn't use.

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