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3Com Not Building Bridges With One Customer

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Mon Aug 02, 2004 at 12:00:23 AM PDT

Sometimes a company seems to do everything it can to convince you it doesn't really want your business. Such was the experience one reader reports recently having with 3Com support.


"I had an experience with 3Com's tech support recently that has motivated me to never buy another 3Com product ever again," the reader wrote. "We had a pair of 3Com Wireless Bridges connecting two buildings slightly less than a half a mile apart. One of them was stolen off of the roof so we had to buy a replacement. After I installed the replacement it wouldn't work so I called 3Com's tech support. The date the new unit was manufactured was six months ago. Because their warranty is only 90 days I had to fax them the packing slip as proof that I hadn't had the wireless bridge for over 90 days. The first time I faxed it to them it got lost in their system so when I called them back I had to fax it over again before I could get tech support on a brand new product."

The reader's troubles were just beginning. "After I finally convinced 3Com that this was a brand new product and that it was covered under their 90-day warranty, I got to talk to someone from tech support who told me that their wireless building to building bridge is not supported where the two bridges aren't level with each other," the reader wrote. "If one bridge is 50 feet or so higher than the other one, which is my situation because of geography, they won't promise that it will work because it isn't designed to work that way. After talking with tech support I took the new bridge down and tried to use it face to face with the other one and found out that it was defective out of the box. I called tech support back -- taking the bridge down and driving to the other building took almost 45 minutes -- and they told me that they are going to replace the defective bridge and they transferred me to their RMA department."

Of course, before 3Com's RMA department would issue the replacement, the reader was required yet again to fax another copy of the packing slip to prove the defective bridge was brand new. "After I did that they told me that they'd try to get me the replacement the next day, but that they couldn't guarantee it," the reader wrote. "I pushed the gentleman on the phone and he said that they would make a 'best effort' to replace the expensive DOA product in one day but that he couldn't promise that they would replace it the next day."

The replacement bridge did arrive and I gather it is now functional. Increasing the reader's frustration throughout the ordeal was another communication problem. "I was told to register the bridge on 3Com's website three or four times by different people, and every time I told them that since I use a Macintosh I can't register it on line," the reader wrote. "Their website is designed so poorly that it won't allow a Macintosh user to register a brand new product there -- it won't allow a Linux user to register a product either."

3Com has struck out with this reader. "Strike one is the 90 day warranty for a $950 product which requires a second $950 purchase in order to work," the reader wrote. "Strike two was having to fax over the packing slip three different times in order to get a DOA product replaced. Strike three was them not promising to get me the replacement overnight. One of my major considerations when I select vendors is the quality of their tech support and 3Com's tech support policies have just lost them a customer forever. Having complained I have to say that everyone from 3Com was polite and professional. My complaint is with the policies and procedures that they have to follow, not them. If they had more freedom to take care of their customers they would be a great tech support team."

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3Com Not Building Bridges With One Customer | 16 comments (16 topical) | Post A Comment
3COM Not Building Bridges[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 10:54:56 AM PDT

This is 3COM's modus operandi, and has been for some time. 5 or 6 years ago, we purchased 11 3COM 3300 switches for a particular building. Within 2 weeks, it became clear that there was a pattern of failure where one of the 11 switches would simply lock up and the only way to get it working again was a power reset. This wasn't limited to one particular switch, it was a number of them. When I contacted 3COM tech support, some 5 or 6 weeks after purchase, they would not even connect me to tech support unless I gave them a credit card number to be charged! I told them our organization would never again purchase another 3COM switch, particularly after I found out (at a user's group meeting, NOT from 3COM directly!) that the solution to the problem, which was well known, was simply a firmware upgrade!

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you can always tell....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 04:18:51 PM PDT

you can always tell which companies have been taken over by their bean-counters by stories like this one.

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ddd[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
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Polite service desk[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 04:28:40 PM PDT

Your reader indicated: "Having complained I have to say that everyone from 3Com was polite and professional. My complaint is with the policies and procedures that they have to follow, not them." This seems to be the standard approach to customer service these days. The 'droids you speak with are polite and really really good at telling you how sorry they are. They are just not very good at fixing, or don't have the authority fix problems. These people seem to be put on the call desk for express purpose of communicating company policy. Of course company policy is very restrictive.

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Re: Polite Service Desk[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 04, 2004 at 04:55:48 AM PDT

I'm the person who sent Ed that complaint.  I agree with you and I refuse to hold the poor people who got stuck dealing with me responsible for the policies of their employer.  3Com's policies are terrible and I am in the process of spending about $40,000 on wireless equipment to connect other buildings together.  3Com has officially been removed from my vendor list because of their corporate support policies.  I'm buying everything from someone else.

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3com not building bridges. . .[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 08:14:21 PM PDT

Corporate policy in many businesses seems to be ignore them, wear them out until they go away. There's a sucker born every minute. Replacement suckers are always available.

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Don't blame the vendor for your lack of research.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 04, 2004 at 06:30:07 AM PDT

O.K. so I'll spout off about the other side of this issue. 1. Wireless bridges are typically purchased in pairs so I don't get your Strike 1 comment. 2. all the bridges I see on 3Com's site have a 1 year return to manufacturer hardware warranty with a stated 30-day turnaround. They also provide upgrade warranty options with as short as a four hour replacement. So it seems to me that 3Com merely is providing you with the low cost option you decided to purchase. In fact since they agreed to expedite the replacement, they have provided service greater than what you purchased. 3. 3Com's web site also states clearly that registering your product at the time of purchase can help speed along future service requests. If you plan to provide your employer or customers with a reliable network, research the products thoroughly and plan for possible failures before you buy and install any vendor's product. I understand your frustration with a DOA product, but before you vent at your suppliers make sure you've done your due diligence as an IT professional.

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Website stupidity[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 04, 2004 at 08:25:48 AM PDT

3Com's web site also states clearly that registering your product at the time of purchase can help speed along future service requests.

Read the original posting again:

"I was told to register the bridge on 3Com's website three or four times by different people, and every time I told them that since I use a Macintosh I can't register it on line," the reader wrote. "Their website is designed so poorly that it won't allow a Macintosh user to register a brand new product there -- it won't allow a Linux user to register a product either."

It's a little difficult to register the product when their website won't let you.... There is no excuse for taking a simple product registration page and making it Internet Explorer-specific.

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3Com's Website[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Mason on Wed Aug 04, 2004 at 01:26:52 PM PDT

I'll second this.  The product registration page doesn't work with Opera 7.5 or Firefox .8 on Windows 2000.  As a longtime professional web developer, this is an utterly asinine and unnecessary design choice and just one more reason to avoid 3Com, which is too bad.

3Com Product Registration Page

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But Firefox .9 passes the test[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 04, 2004 at 04:41:28 PM PDT

Looks like they have a dumb filter. They have a browser test page, and Firefox .9 passes - but try to register and you get that idiot "unsuported" page. I wouldn't be surprised if it would work just fine.

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Can't use Windows Server 2003?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 03:02:03 PM PDT

I had to check out the 3com eSupport page. I used a ver 7 Netscape browser and got the "Supported Browsers" page. I had to chuckle at this sentence, "Please use a browser/operating-system combination from the list below." You will notice that Windows Server 2003 is not listed as a valid OS. So, if you are working on setting up a Win2K3 server, I guess you are out of luck if you need to register a 3com product from there... (of course you can go to another machine, but...). Maybe they have another Supported Browsers page for enterprise users?

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Yup, a bunch of bozos[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Sat Aug 07, 2004 at 08:24:13 PM PDT

Just went to www.3com.com -> Support and Downloads -> Product registration: "You are trying to access 3Com's eSupport site, which is a java enhanced web application. The browser you are using is not supported." Nevermind that my browser has java enabled, I've use this OS/web browser combination to buy airline tickets, whole bean coffee, calculators, ... The convergence of modern browsers onto agreed standards is actually pretty darn good, and any browser elitism by a web site creator for any purpose other than the most esoteric is utterly out of place on today's internet. Lots of companies have figured out how to deal with it - what's 3Com's problem?

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Cathay Pacific[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 10, 2004 at 12:42:17 PM PDT

I was recently trying to buy air tickets with Cathay Pacific for my Mom. No can't do, because I am not using IE. Anything else gets bumped out. I don't even get to see airline routes. I went to SQ, they did say IE and Netscape, but they actually happily accepted Mozilla.

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