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A Fair Software Warranty

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 08:04:36 AM PDT

Now that readers have identified last week's "mystery license" as the EULA for Autodesk's AutoCad 2005, it's time to take a closer look at it. But we're not going to examine its many grossly unfair terms - that comes later. Instead, this week I want to consider one section of the AutoCad license that might actually help us define what a fair software warranty should say.


As I mentioned last week, one somewhat redeeming feature of the AutoCad license is its limited warranty. It reads:

"Limited Warranty. Autodesk warrants that, as of the date on which the Software is delivered by Autodesk and for ninety (90) days thereafter, the Software will provide the features and functions generally described in the User Documentation and that the media on which the Software is furnished, if any, will be free from defects in materials and workmanship. Autodesk's entire liability and Your exclusive remedy under the limited warranty provided in this Section 5.1 will be, at Autodesk's option, to attempt to correct or work around errors, to replace the defective media on which the Software is furnished, if any, or to refund the license fees and terminate this Agreement."

No, it's not the best warranty you'll ever see, but it is certainly an improvement over the complete lack of warranty -- or a warranty for media defects only -- that many software companies offer. I think it's also a little better than another limited warranty you will sometimes find that promises the software "will perform substantially as described in the user documentation." There's a lot of room for argument in what "substantially" might entail, whereas Autodesk's warranty seems more straightforward.

Of course, a far better warranty from the customer's point of view is a no-questions-asked money-back guarantee. And some software products, including some of Microsoft's, do give you 30 or 60 days to return the product for a refund. But you're generally not going to see that on software products that are as expensive as AutoCad. (And it's only fair to point out that a free trial version of Autocad is available, which is roughly equivalent to what the money-back guarantees are providing.) So I don't think we can demand that all software companies provide a full money-back guarantee.

What we're looking for is a warranty that any software company that charges money for its products should be willing to offer while giving customers protection against products that don't work to their reasonable expectations. The AutoCad limited warranty at least comes close in that respect. Certainly it's hard to see how any software vendor could justify not being willing to warrant at least that much.

But there are a few problems with tying the warranty to the documentation. For one thing, it seems like more and more software ships with virtually no documentation, and we don't want to give any software publishers another reason for not providing a manual. And even if there is documentation, the customer generally can't see it until after purchasing the product. A fairer warranty would be one that's based on information the customer was most likely to rely upon in making the buying decision.

So what if we take the language from AutoCad's EULA but substitute the word "website" for "User Documentation?" If a software product doesn't provide the features and functions generally described on the publisher's website, there can be no denying the customer is entitled to a fix or a refund. Actually, the legal argument could be made that the product descriptions on a vendor's website constitute an express warranty that can't be disclaimed, no matter what the sneakwrap says. So a vendor offering such a warranty would only be agreeing to what any court outside Virginia and Maryland (the UCITA states) might very well say they are obliged to do anyway.

Is that the software warranty we've been looking for in our project to define terms that are fair to both customers and vendors? What suggestions would you have for improving it? Write me at Foster@gripe2ed.com and let me know what you think.

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Getting vendors to be reasonable[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by auctionhugh on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 01:09:16 PM PDT

It is amazing how some vendors of custom software packages are very very willing to warrant that their software will work according to the documentation, sales literature, and web claims, while others will not! I run into this all the time when negotiating contracts for the company I work for.

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m&ms[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 01:43:03 PM PDT

While it's not completely applicable to software, I like M&M's EULA as printed on a bag of M&Ms:

"M&MS Chocolate Candies are made of the finest ingredients. This product should reach you in excellent condition. Satisfaction guaranteed or we will replace it.  We value your questions or comments. Call 1-800-627-7852 M-F, 8:30 AM to 5 PM EST."

Short, sweet and customer-oriented.

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It's obvious what happened...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Fri Aug 13, 2004 at 08:39:33 AM PDT

No lawyers were involved in crafting that EULA; only the people who actually want customers to be satisfied.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
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A fair license agreement[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 18, 2004 at 04:20:43 PM PDT

Why not put both the User Documentation and the web site? In fact, shouldn't the waranty tell the product work as said in these document and ANY of the publisher's publications?

A task specific waranty should also be added. Think about it. The task to be done is central to software we buy. It is only logical that any software claimed to be able to do a given task should be usable to do so. This could not be complete in itself but could be added to the description of "features and functions" from Autocad license. Otherwise, the responsibility to judge its ability to do a given task fall entirely on the buyer.

I see one category of software which should be exempt of this "task waranty". Games. Of course.

JR

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Don't exempt games[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Sat Aug 21, 2004 at 04:58:24 PM PDT

I have yet to see a computer implementation of Risk or Clue that actually follows the rules printed for decades in the rule books of those board games. For true fans of these games the differences are not trivial. With all the work that went into the AI of the various versions of these games the developers failed to actually make the programs work according to the specs (in this case the published rules). I have often tried to get games to work and they have failed or the documentation is for a far different or better product than the one they are selling but not supporting.

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Game Warranty?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 23, 2004 at 10:01:52 AM PDT

I made an exception for games because a game's task is to entertain the player. I wouldn't warranty this "task". There is also numerous reviews available on the net. These helps checking if a product keeps up with previous ones and keep their promises. Master of Orion comes to mind in the under reputation product. I'd still keep the function warranty.

This gives us another interresting aspect of "satisfaction or your money back" warranty. Software which are oriented toward psychological or intellectual goals can be long to evaluate and can fail with a specific user. Good examples are the numerous "learn ... with ..." products. Having some knowledge in teaching, I can tell you the quality vary from junk to marvellous but, even with marvellous products, failure happen.

It remind me of the legal difference between the obligation of delivering result and doing the best possible job. A physician is obligated to do the best possible job to heal you while the carpenter must deliver a specific result.

JR

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 08:14:47 PM PDT

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