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Confidential Support

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Tue Jun 08, 2004 at 10:21:15 AM PDT

When technical support sends you an e-mail, do they have the right to tell you to keep the information they give you confidential? That's a question I've heard a number of times, particularly from Linksys customers.


A reader who recently purchased a Linksys Wireless B broadband router was quite satsified with the device's 128-bit WEP encryption. "Installation and everything went fine initially," the reader wrote. "I realize there are problems with WEP, but it's all that was available and it does help deter 'snatch-and-grabbers' and 'war drivers.' Then, a couple of weeks ago, my cable company called. Apparently, there was a security issue -- they didn't give details -- with my particular Linksys router. They would appreciate it if I would upgrade my firmware ASAP. Oh, and here's the Linksys Web page where you can download the upgrade. Fine, so I upgrade."

After he upgraded the firmware, he was surprised to see the interface was quite different from the version he had been using. "While climbing up my new learning curve on this new interface, I realize I can't find any place to manage the device's WEP capability. Remember, I had working WEP before I upgraded the firmware. WEP was prominently advertised on the packaging and I wouldn't have bought a wireless router that didn't have it. Now, I can't find it."

The reader filed a problem report on the Linksys website and soon received an e-mail in response from a support rep. Linksys was aware of the problem, he was told, and hoped to correct it in a future upgrade of the firmware. He should check the website frequently to see if new releases of the firmware would fix his problem.

Linksys' answer did not make the reader very happy. "Wait a minute! I bought and paid for a router with WEP," he noted. "I upgraded that device's software at the request of my cable company using Linksys-provided materials, and now I have a router without WEP encryption. There was no warning that if I upgraded, my router would no longer have WEP capability. These guys have stolen my WEP!"

But the reader was even unhappier with what was written at the bottom of the message from Linksys support:

"This correspondence is considered confidential and any reproduction for the purpose of public disclosure is forbidden without written permission by the author signed above."

That line had the opposite effect on the reader from what Linksys might have hoped. "If they think they can intimidate me with a legally groundless threat like that, they have another think coming," the reader wrote. "They are, of course, attempting to keep me from doing just what I'm doing now, making their unbelievably poor attitude public."

Since other readers have complained about the identical confidentiality language before, I assume it is standard boilerplate for Linksys support. But the reader's reaction is also pretty standard, because people don't like being told they can't reveal information they think others have the right to know. So does Linksys have the right to say their support e-mails are confidential? Perhaps, but I don't think it's doing them much good.

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Linksys - Never again.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Bryan Bytehead on Tue Jun 08, 2004 at 01:50:28 PM PDT

I originally had a D-Link router for my home cable setup. 6 months after having a lightning strike (ain't Florida wonderful, the lightning capital of the world) take out both my cable modem AND my US Robotics V.Everything external modem that was sitting next to it, the D-Link finally bought it as well. I bought the Linksys to save a few bucks over the D-Link. Boy, I thought they would be equivalent in features.

The D-Link offered to set up internal IPs by MAC, and figured that Linksys would as well. Searched the documentation, and asked online support and e-mail support. I only got a canned response about cloning my MAC. Already had that worked out guys! Telling me that it wasn't possible would have been much easier on me. After going through each and every setting, I realized that it wasn't available. Now I'm going to go through and set just about everybody here with static IPs, especially after somebody decided to reboot everything while I was on vacation, throwing me out of the DMZ.

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OnTopic - Slate has run an analysis of most email disclaimers here, and finds that most of them are worthless, as I would consider the Linksys email. And I just checked my response from Linksys, and it had the same boilerplate baloney in it (I never got that far when I originally read it).

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LinkSys vs. D-Link[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by kevin on Wed Jun 09, 2004 at 03:47:40 PM PDT

Here in KC LinkSys is more expensive than D-Link. Recently i ran into a problem with a linksys vpn endpoint and upgraded my firmware in an attempt to fix. After that when a vpn packet would touch the router it would reboot. And the original problem wasn't fixed. Switched to D-Link, it works beautifully and I haven't gone back, both in the feature I upgraded the LinkSys to fix, and in VPN. I now recommend D-Link over LinkSys. However, my LinkSys did allow MAC reservations for particular IPs (and does my D-Link).

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Oh, Brother...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by timthechef on Tue Jun 08, 2004 at 10:10:17 PM PDT

Frankly, Linksys can "forbid" the non-permissable reproduction of that e-mail all they want. The text is a waste of space. I'm no lawyer, but I don't think there's any precedent that shows that merely "forbidding" reproduction of an e-mail in order to avoid "public disclosure" is enough to hang a suit on.

As for losing the WEP capability, even though it's displayed in the advertising, that's another issue entirely. That's simply poor business for a hundred different reasons. Shame on Linksys. Tim

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another d-link syncophant ;^)[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Thu Jun 10, 2004 at 09:59:04 PM PDT

i had a linky bef41 and their 5 port switch in my home network and since february i had been blasted off the internet on an intermittant basis a minimum of once a week. so as a stopgap measure i replaced the router with a d-link in april. since then i have not had even one time where the router went down. for fun i put the linky back about a week ago (i had forgotten a port for remote access and needed it so i could remote to another computer) the linky lasted all of 10 minutes before shutdown.

the 5 port linky switch went down for the count in may and since i couldn't fine my receipt it wasn't getting replaced for free so i bought a d-link 8 port and have been vary impressed with it also. i had to call d-link support because i thought it was sizzling (due to high bandwidth >200GB monthly) their support was professional and very helpful. turns out there is a fan to keep things cool that i was hearing

one of the coolest things about dlink routers is that there is a simulator on their website for the router controls so you can see what you are getting. all the advanced controls sold me on it and i knew what i had to set in order to get it up and going before i even opened the box.

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Linksys Products OK, Has Cisco Changed Support?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by mmburkes on Mon Jun 21, 2004 at 12:33:40 PM PDT

I've had great experiences with Linksys products, specifically their venerable BEFSR41 router/switch and their regular 5-port switches. They work great and have had good firmware support. The router recently got a firmware update to address some new holes that have come up over the last year.

I wonder if the purchase of Linksys by Cisco has affected the way they do support? Boilerplate about not reproducing e-mails strikes me as a Cisco-type move.

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