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Suing Customers Operation

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 09:01:56 AM PDT
Just in case there still are companies out there crazy enough to pay SCO to use Linux, I'd like point something out about SCOsource "Intellectual Property" license. Far from actually offering "customers" protection from SCO lawsuits, the license is actually structured in such a way as to make it all the easier for SCO to sue those who keep using Linux.


There's been a lot of news in the last few weeks regarding SCO and its many Linux-related legal actions with IBM, Novell, Red Hat, etc. The story that's been getting the most headlines - that Microsoft has been helping SCO get financing to keep its lawsuits going - is hardly a big surprise. What is more interesting is that SCO has finally followed through on its many threats to begin filing lawsuits against its own customers. And one of the things that's interesting about SCO's filings against Autozone and DaimlerChrysler is how different they are from each other.

SCO's case against Autozone revolves around its copyright claims. Of course, as it has had continued to do in its case against IBM, SCO refuses to point to the specific lines of code in Linux that it claims are its intellectual property. What is clear, though, is that the reason Autozone was sued instead of any other company that's known to be using Linux: until recently, Autozone used SCO's Unix in its point-of-sale application. Why sue a stranger when you can sue an old customer?

Even more fascinating for our purposes here is the DaimlerChrysler lawsuit. In its complaint, SCO skips over the copyright claims and focuses on a contract issue. Years ago, Chrysler Corp. took out a Unix System V license from AT&T. So now SCO, as AT&T's successor, says that means DaimlerChrysler is required to respond to a letter SCO sent them (and thousands of other companies) demanding the automaker audit all their systems and certify they are not using Linux. Apparently SCO doesn't feel it has to establish any actual property claims in Linux - the standard annual audit clause in the System V license agreement means they can require any old customer to certify anything they want.

Keep that in mind as we look at SCO's Linux IP licensing program. The ironically-named "SCOsource" program offers Linux users the right to keep using their software by paying $699 per CPU. In other words, you pay SCO a little protection money and they promise not to sue you. But what are they really promising?

The SCOsource license agreement is even more convoluted than your typical EULA, but one thing does come through pretty clearly - it does not include any "rights to access, use, modify, or distribute any SCO source code in any form under any licensing arrangement." And SCO source code means Linux source code, as far as they're concerned, so SCOsource is sourceless. In fact, you're restricted to using "Object code (that) ... is processed by a software compiler and is directly executable by a computer." In other words, you can keep using Linux, but only so long as you don't compile, recompile, or touch the source code at all.

Well, isn't that going to be a bit of a problem for organizations that use Linux in any meaningful way? The accompanying FAQ leaves no doubt about what SCO intends in that respect. It even poses the question of how corporate IT staffs can distribute their own customized Linux applications internally to their users while complying with SCO's license. The answer is they can't. And then, remarkably enough, SCO provides the logical follow-up question:

"Q: If SCO doesn't offer a license that would permit the distribution of an in house customized Linux OS to internal data centers, what is the value of correcting the infringement on the part of my end users when my company as a whole is still infringing SCO's intellectual property? What should I do?"
"A: Consider migrating from an in house customized version of Linux to a shrink wrap, off the shelf version of Linux and purchase the SCO IP license or switch to an alternative operating system. If you are unable to migrate, consider outsourcing the development of the customized Linux distribution. SCO understands that these options are very constraining and is investigating alternatives that both protect its intellectual property and are less burdensome for end users."

In other words, the only way to keep using Linux without violating the terms of SCO's license is to get someone else to violate it for you. How bizarre is that? You pay $699 per CPU so that SCO won't sue you sue for violating intellectual property rights that SCO can't show it owns. And in doing so, you put yourself on a list of companies SCO knows can't help but violate their license agreement.

That's not a list you want to be on. Having now gone into the business of suing its customers, SCO can't ever go back to being a technology company. And once its bogus claims to own a piece of Linux are dismissed, the only customers left for this litigation machine to go after could be those who are foolish enough to try to buy them off now.

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Suing Customers Operation[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 11:23:39 AM PDT

Isn't it as plain as the nose on your face that Microsoft is running the same jaded play from the same ol' playbook? If you can't buy it, make it go away. Try litigation using a puppet company, figuring that if you tie this matter up in the courts for years, customers will shy away from UNIX/LINUX and stick to Microsoft. Fortunately, SCO has no leg to stand on and eventually, that effort will fail. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft then ends up doing full-scale marketing of an alternative UNIX based OS, dirt cheap, slick and easy to use, Linux APP. compatible, packed with many goodies, just to make LINUX go away... Sorry Billy G., it ain't gonna happen. MS will eventually have to share the spotlight.

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Conspiracies and Interesting Questions[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 09:26:20 PM PDT

I have say that I have a different conspiracy theory as to why MS help back SCO. Sure, on the rarest of chances that they take out Linux it would be nice, but really all that money has made sure that it is SCO, not Microsoft, who is the most hated company in the IT. It's money well spent, if you ask me.

On the serious side, there are some important issues being raised from the consumer's point of view. If software that I buy is found to be infringing on the IP rights of others, does this mean that I am also liable? If I base my IT operations on such software will I have to give it up or pay a fine? Is it legal to sue a company based on an IP claim that has yet to be decided in court? If not, why aren't judges slapping SCO with penalties left and right?

If this entire soap opera is as big a waste of time as I think it is, I would like to see Darl McBride and other key players charged for bringing about malicious lawsuit. If you do not have a legal leg to stand on and know it, try to use the courts to aid in a fishing expedition, and, let's be real here, try to use the legal system as an arm for extortion, you should pay a personal legal penalty. If this indeed turns out to be the case, I would love to see the fine folks that run SCO and plan their legal strategy do a little jail time. Maybe they can call Martha Stewart for advice on knitting a nice quilt for those cold nights in the slammer.

Kevin
kevin@enderlyn.com

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There is NO end user liability[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Fri Mar 26, 2004 at 03:43:24 AM PDT

" If software that I buy is found to be infringing on the IP rights of others, does this mean that I am also liable? "

No. End users are not capable of doing any infringing, not is action against the end user supported by copyright or patent law. The infringer is the person who wrote the software and incorporated the patents or copyrights of others. If I bought an AMD chip, which violated some Intel patents, Intel can't sue me. They have to sue AMD for the money they lost by my purchase. When Alex Haley's blockbuster novel "Roots" was found to be infringing the copyrights of a couple of authors, Haley was the one sued ... not the readers, bookstores, or even the publisher.

Of course, that doesn't mean SCO can't SUE ... it just means you could easily have it thrown out of court.

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Unless.....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Fri Mar 26, 2004 at 07:27:41 AM PDT

If you use a shrink wrapped copy from someone like Red Hat, that scenario may be true, but if you do any customizing of the source, you would be considered culpable as you have used their IP (hypothetically). Which brings us to the point of the article. The SCOSource license is trash since it doesn't grant anything. You are only infringing if you customize and the SCO license doesn't allow for customization. They make $699, don't give up anything, and get a list of new victims. Nice racket.

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Customers can be sued for patent violations[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 30, 2004 at 09:23:01 AM PDT

If I bought an AMD chip, which violated some Intel patents, Intel can't sue me.

I am sorry, but you are wrong. Intel customers have been sued on more than one occasion using claims of patent violations by using Intel chips. Check out the MicroUnity v. Dell and Patriot v. Sony lawsuits. Being a customer can get you sued for patent infringement. This is because patents grant a legal monopoly on the manufacture, sale, and use of the invention.T

End-users *are* liable for patent infringement. It is just that they are rarely sued because the typical rewards exceed the legal costs.

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Re: There is NO end user liability[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 30, 2004 at 10:04:49 AM PDT

Take a look at the Intergraph v. Intel case where Intergraph is also suing Dell, HP, and Gateway (they recently dropped the case against Dell) over patent infringement issues with the Itanium. Likewise MicroUnity is suing not only Intel, but Dell as well over patent violations in HyperThreading and SSE.

In the SCO case in particular, you have SCO threatening to file lawsuits against end users of Linux. The two filed thus far were a bit afield of where SCO led the media to believe where they were going (what else is new), but that doesn't mean they won't eventually file such a suit.

Point blank: you can sue anyone for anything. The question is whether or not you can win the type of suit SCO is threatening. If this is found to be the case, this industry will be in more trouble than I could have ever imagined. I wonder if the USPTO will actually step in and do something to stem the flow of ridiculous patents issued in this industry. My bet is not anytime soon.

Cheers, Kevin

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Don't think SCO thought that one through.....[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 10:13:07 PM PDT

..if that is what that had been intending...

"And once its bogus claims to own a piece of Linux are dismissed, the only customers left for this litigation machine to go after could be those who are foolish enough to try to buy them off now."

Hmmm....but once it's bogus claims are shot down, doesn't that mean that even if you have signed up for the license, you still have the rights conferred by the GPL (as it's validity will have been confirmed in courts) and specifically the right to distribute, compile, mess with source etc irrespective of whether or not the SCO license doesn't claim to provide those rights? As far as I can see, the license doesn't prohibit those rights, it merely doesn't supply them - and since the GPL does, couldn't anyone who bought SCO licenses simply wait for the court to throw out SCO's case, then roll their SCOsource licenses up and smoke them, and announce that their copies of linux are now licensed under the GPL instead?

I suppose what it comes down to is whether the software could be considered dual-licensed when the GPL is validated, or whether the SCOsource license could be killed off by the licensee acting unilaterally, or for that matter whether a court would consider the SCOsource license to be legal once it has been ascertained that SCO doesn't own a damn thing apart from a few buildings in the back of nowhere. Seems like a rather tenuous thread for SCO's top brass to be relying on as their fallback source of revenue.....not that I'm saying any of their other recent actions can be considered particularly well thought-through :)

just my $A0.02c

-d

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Dual Licensing[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by sconeu on Fri Mar 26, 2004 at 09:39:25 AM PDT

However, in your scenario, where GPL is upheld (as I believe it should be), TSG can only dual-license portions where *THEY* hold the copyright.  To distribute the Linux kernel under a dual license, they would be violating the copyrights of Linus Torvalds, Alan Cox, and anyone at all who has contributed to the kernel.   Since the kernel maintainers have not given TSG permission to distribute under any licence other than GPL, TSG would be violating somebody's "Valuable Intellectual Property(tm)".

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I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States of America.
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Dual Licensing[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Wed Mar 31, 2004 at 10:08:26 AM PDT

Whether or not the GPL is upheld, by selling a license to use Linux, isn't SCO infringing on the intellectual property of people who have contributed original code to the Linux kernel?

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The SCO backfire[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 30, 2004 at 12:27:55 PM PDT

If SCO gets any significant revenue from licensing fees, and then its copyright claims don't pan out, watch out for the fraud lawsuits that get filed against SCO by those who paid on SCO's representation that it had rights in the software.

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The SCO backfire[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 30, 2004 at 01:38:13 PM PDT

That would be nice. I would love to see Darl and company do some time from defrauding investors into thinking they actually had a case.

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SCO/Microsoft involved with restraint of trade[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Sat Apr 03, 2004 at 07:24:47 PM PDT

I believe Microsoft could be using SCO as a proxy to perpetrate restraint of trade by suing Linux users. Windows is an almost ubiquitous operating system on computers today. An alternate operating system such as Linux could theoretically provide competition for Windows. Competition would provide more of an incentive for Windows to improve its products/services. Many people have said that Windows has privacy issues. Therefore, Windows may find the SCO proxy useful in that it could restrain trade in a competing system, rather than actually improving Windows.

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Suing the user[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Wed May 05, 2004 at 05:06:38 PM PDT

While a much smaller market than that enjoyed by the "big names" such as IBM and SCO, you might be interested in what a group called Engate is trying to do to court reporters. I believe I read somewhere that Engate was formed by a group of attorneys for the express purpose of buying up patents so that they could sue!!

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