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E-Books and DRM

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 12:05:15 AM PDT

Can e-books be saved from the curse of DRM? Or, perhaps better said, when will book publishers realize that loading their digital products down with rights restrictions is not in their own self interest?

There are many reasons why e-books have never really taken off, starting with the fact that many of us are quite fond of paper and print. And, judging by the gripes I've been hearing from e-book devotees, there's not going to be much reason to change our minds until book publishers cease their love affair with digital rights management.


Many of the complaints have focused on the DRM and activation requirements for reading e-books with Adobe Reader 6.0. "This is ridiculous," wrote one e-book reader who got a new notebook computer for Christmas. "I have well over $100 worth of e-books that I've purchased over the last year, and now I can't activate them (on the new machine) because of Adobe's DRM. I've spent hours on the phone with (Adobe) support and I'm still getting the 'Your software cannot be activated' error messages ... Come on, Adobe. I could have bought the same books in paperback on Amazon for less than I spent on the e-books, and I wouldn't need technical support to read them."

Along with the activation problems that arise because of hardware changes, e-book readers express frustration with the usage limitations most book publishers routinely impose. Printing, copying, loaning, and text-to-voice conversion of purchased e-books, although allowable via Adobe's DRM, are often locked by the publisher. Some e-books even have an expiration date after which they can no longer be read.

Shafath Syed, Adobe product manager for electronic publishing, says the company is responding to such complaints by making the DRM more flexible. "Initially we limited the activations to one computer and one PDA device due to concerns by the publishers, but we changed that policy in the fall so you can activate up to six computers," says Syed. "We also now have an anonymous activation system, which means you are not required to get an MS Passport account if you don't need to take the content to multiple computers." A customer who originally uses the anonymous activation can, at a later date, open a Passport or Adobe ID account in order to activate the DRM on multiple computers. The only information Adobe asks for in the activation process is name and e-mail address, Syed added.

"Adobe does not determine what specific rights are granted, such as whether it can be printed, read out loud or has an expiration date," Syed points out. "That really has to be up to the publisher or the distributor. DRM enables a number of different business models for publishers, such as renting a book or seeing individual chapters. So it's up to the publishing industry and what consumers ask for."

So what are customers asking for? In an earlier discussion, a number of readers told me about one publisher that they think does understand how to use digital content: science fiction publisher Baen Books and its Free Library of e-books. "These are selected by the respective authors and vary over time," wrote one reader. "This has been operating for several years with the early joiners encouraging other Baen authors to try it also. It seems that, based on the royalty figures, every time an author puts a new book in the Free Library their sales take a distinct jump. This includes the title listed in the Library. For some reason, when people can decide whether or not to pay for something they want, a substantial number seem willing to pay for it."

Interestingly, readers say some Baen authors include a CD of their previous work with the print copy of a book. "I bought every single book that was on the CD because I liked the author's work enough to want to read the books," wrote another reader. "I read some of them on my computer first, but I can't take my computer everywhere that I want to go. Some authors and/or publishing companies are doing things the right way, and they're going to be getting my money for years to come as a result."

To me, what Baen is doing makes a lot of sense. They understand that the best marketing for any book is to be read. E-books don't have to be given away for free, but neither do they need to be "protected" from the kinds of things people (and libraries) do with regular books, like loaning them to somebody else.

E-books shouldn't be about saddling customers with usage restrictions -- the real opportunity of digital distribution for publishers is to market their content to new readers. For their own sake, they need to realize that DRM and e-books are a very bad match.

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Clueless Publishers and Magic Glasses[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 09:02:01 AM PDT

I find myself deeply puzzled by publishers other than Baen Books, where I'm a fiercely loyal fan and customer.  I buy the "Webscriptions" and, in fact, bought the entire YEARS 2003 and 2004 "blind" before I had any idea what would be coming out in any of those months.  It's been worth it.

I then go to my local independent bookstore and buy the hardcovers and donate those to the Berkeley Public Library, since what I READ are the e-books.

Then I run into other publishers.  One publisher has the books up at www.fictionwise.com, but they're all DigitalRipoffManagement-crippled *and* at (you ready for this) Hardcover prices.  They're still at those prices even after the paperback of the book has come out.  Somebody want to tell me why I should pay hardcover prices for crippled ebooks when I can just scan the treeware?

DRM is what I call "magic glasses," and most publishers insist that you have to use them to read *their* precious content.  I sometimes think that, if Gutenberg had been able to do that with paper books, thee and I woulds't still be awaiting our copies of the Bible from the Scriptorium.


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It's about control - giving it up in order to get[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 10:56:41 AM PDT

The way I see this e-book situation, the RIAA/MPAA belligerent, threatening, and frivilous strategies, and many aspects of DRM in general is this: these organizations are very afraid to give up any kind of control. They fail to realize that sometimes you have to give up control in order to achieve your end goal. That is a common notion in many religious faiths, and, like the content owners here, most of us have a hard time believing it and comitting to it, even though abundant evidence is presented to us.
That is no excuse, however. If and when they finally realize that by giving up some measure of their control they will increase sales and good-will, only then will we see consumer attitudes change towards these companies. Until then, they are merely fostering ill-will, animosity, and alienation among their customers.

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Bean E-books and CD's[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 11:09:33 AM PDT

I am also a loyal Bean reader, and I love the way they handle E-books. I have found new authors I would never have read beacuse of their putting books in the free library, and also find myself reading the dead tree version because I *gasp* LIKE to read a book on paper. Now don't think Jim Bean decided to do this out of the kindness of his heart...I'll quote the back of one of the Hard cover's with a CD containing approx. 40..yes FOURTY..e-books..for FREE mwahahahaha: "WARNING! inside you will find a CD ROM that contains over 40 full-length novels, with no encryptions or other schemes to make you feel dumb and incompetent. you can just click on a title and read it or print it out. I gets worse; there are also pictures, short storie, a wargame, and other tasty items. BUT BE VERY WARY. The publisher did not provide this out of the goodness of his heart, if he even has a heart. He figures you will start reading many of the genuinley first-rate novels provided herin, and discover that you really don't want to continue reading on a computer screen. So what will you do? There are seven million words here, so its pretty likely you will stop reading, and since the accompanying artwork is very memorable and can be found on the cover of the associated novel, he thinks it is likely that you will notice it the next time you see it in a bookstore-and Buy the book! could there be a more dastardly and nefarious scheme for increasing profits? Just remember: you have been warned." A Publisher with a sense of humor about himself and the idea on how to use E-books RIGHT...what is the world coming to?

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A Word From The Author[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 01:04:09 PM PDT

I'm not a habitue of this site so I posted as Anonymous Luser, but my name is John ("Hi John!")and I have a problem: I write books. Specifically I write books for Baen and have both included CDs in my books and have books in the Free Library. The "Warning" that was quoted (ahem, with several misspellings...ahem) was from the back of one of _my_ books. So I'm a proponent of "open source" on e-books, de facto and de jure. However, it doesn't mean I'm a fanatic. Publishers, in the end, are in business to make money. Jim Baen didn't have a single joke in that warning. If e-books were killing his bottomline, he'd be all over DRM like white on rice. His company is small enough, however, that he can actually track performance and tell when small items are having an effect on his bottomline. But "market research" in the publishing industry is hard. Think for example about the number of genres out there and the differences between readers. Not to mention their relative paucity. A telephone survey will go through FIFTEEN households before finding one that says that members are "regular readers". And even then they'll break down by genre, each with its own habits. (Nearly _one hundred_, by the way, for "a regular reader of science fiction.") Publishing marketing, therefore, is far more of an art than a science. There is no way to test market other than pay the money to distribute and hope for the best. And most publishers (and distributors, and bookstores) run on very small margins. Any flicker in their bottomline and they are history. So the smart ones are conservative. They'll take a chance here and there but most of the time they find themselves being burned when they do. So they went the conservative route on e-books. They were conservative in their marketing, only a limited number of books, and in their distribution model, encrypted, and they lost their proverbial shirt. Now e-books are "of the devil" as the Amish would say and they don't really _care_ if a microscopic fraction of their market is put out by their encryption schemes. The bottomline is protected. The problem was that in this case, the only thing that "works" is the bold move. To get more people reading _their_ ebooks they have to have them easy to use which will make more people read ebooks in-toto which will sell more of _their_ ebooks, etc. But it's like evolution. You'll keep the veriform appendix around for a _long_ time because it's essentially evolutionary neutral. Ebook readers are, for now, a relative minority (about 5% of the total "reader" population and recall how small _that_ was) and therefore have no market push. And as long as it's a bear to read ebooks...they're not going to tend to increase. (People who point out "increases in PDA use" etc ignore that VERY FEW OF THOSE USERS ARE READERS! The only way to increase the ebook readership is through the _publishers'_ actions.) So. Publishers protect bottomline. Total ebook readers increase fractionally because of lack of supply. Publishers' bottomline remains protected. It's a win/win situation for them. Sucks if you're an ebook reader, but in that case...Come to the Dark Side. Baen Books Is Your Friennnnd... /hypnotic voice. I'm pleased that Ed found it in his heart to mention us. Now, I'd suggest that he heigh himself over to the Free Library and check out the books _themselves_. :-) John Ringo

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Hey[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by beamdriver on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 01:42:25 PM PDT

Ringo, are they letting the likes of you in here now? Damn, this place is going all to hell.

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Definitely pro-baen[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by gawaine on Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 11:24:11 AM PDT

Commenting on the previous -- I've now read, and purchased in paperback or hardcover, everything that John Ringo has written, along with the works of David Weber. I don't think there's any way I ever would have done that if it hadn't been for the baen library. That would have been my loss. Other authors there have also benefited to various extents.

I respect the choices of publishers not to publish in ebook format, but I know that for me, it's resulted in spending about three hundred dollars last year on baen that otherwise might have gone to one of their competitors. If you add in the three people I recommended the site it to, and their purchases, there's about a thousand dollars that Baen wouldn't have gotten. Eric Flint's Prime Palaver, his newsletter on the library, has gone through some of the increases in revenue authors have seen, and I'm not the only one throwing money their way - imagine, advertising helps!

I should also say that there are a few authors on Baen whose books I didn't enjoy. I didn't buy them. It's that simple; it didn't cost them an arm and a leg to give me the chance to like them, and in the end, it didn't hurt them. Meanwhile, I gave them a chance.

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Hey Ringo cut me A break[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 12:30:02 PM PDT

John; So I Mis-spelled some words on your warning at 2 in the afternoon..hey Im a night person thats like 4 am for you "normal" people out there, and I KNOW Jim is a money grubbing capitolist...but the Warning IS funny and if he didnt have a modicum of humor it wouldnt have made it....I also know if the e-books didnt make him money they would be in the trash along with the three million LOTR remakes on his desk in the last couple of years....so cut a FAITHFUL AND LOYAL READER of yours a brewak on spellin :P

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Large Font[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#28)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 12:25:32 PM PDT

Baen, John Ringo and Large Fonts on ebook readers have jump started my reading after a layoff of years. My eyes are going and I have trouble reading in bed with glasses. (I hate requiring special apparatus to read) Anyway by bumping the font size on an ebook reader I can read again without the Coke bottle bottoms. (for you young uns coke bottles used to be made of glass) I buy the wescription every month. John Ringo you Rock! Keep up the good work!

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Love them Baen E-Books![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#30)
by Ray Trygstad on Sat Nov 27, 2004 at 10:02:42 PM PDT

As a long-time science-fiction reader and fan (thanks to my Dad) I can tell you that Baen's library is about the best thing since sliced bread. I download every new book put up and give them all a chance; I read them on my Pocket PC (Dell Axim X30) which I find to be a great platform for reading. I recently read John Ringo's March Upcountry, which like many of the books in the library is the first book in a trilogy. I then went out and bought the next two books. I read the e-book of The Shadow of the Lion and bought the print version for my daughter; I read the e-book of Sympathy for the Devil and I'm buying the print version for my pastor. I'm now reading A Hymn Before Battle which I also realize is the first of a series as well. Don't worry, John, no public library use on this one either, I'll buy 'em. So go get some Baen e-books, and you'll end up buying print versions. Do it for John Ringo, and for Jim Baen and his amazing ability to pick authors who can REALLY write and are not afraid to go out on a limb with electronic versions of their literary works. (And a special thanks to Jim for his support of our folks in the Navy from a 21-year Navy veteran.)

--Ray

Ray Trygstad
http://blog.raytrygstad.com/

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A Long Wait[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 04:13:06 PM PDT

It's going to be awhile before this improves.  The key issues are (1) e-books aren't books and (2) most publishers simply don't understand the technology.  A book is both data and a display medium that can last for centuries.   Books are inexpensive and easy to read, but bulky, hard to store and hard to search.  E-books are data.  They are displayed on expensive devices that have a useful life of two to four years, with disk reformats/rebuilds perhaps yearly.  E-books aren't (yet) as easy to read as regular books, but they can, if allowed, be flexibly used: changed text size, text-to-speech, read on the home computer, PDA, or tablet pc as you wish, subject to sophisticated searching, etc.  But, even not counting DRM, they are usually stored in formats that themselves will likely be obsolete in a few years.   Clearly, people that buy "throw away" novels have no reason to bother with e-books today.  People with libraries might.

Expensive E-books with DRM and in multiple proprietary formats are virtually useless for any serious reader.  Aside from destroying any obvious advantage for e-books, imagine attempting to move a library of 50 books in different formats, different format versions with different compatibility issues with different DRM systems and rules varying by publisher every year.  And that's a small library.  It is lunacy.

Sadly, even many science fiction writers don't understand the technology.  It turns out that many of them don't "get" computers as much as you might think.  So don't expect people less familiar with the technology to do better.  

To be fair, there are some legitimate issues, and I have seen valid arguments that never would have occurred to anyone (like me) outside of their business.  On the other hand, it is getting so easy to make pirate copies, given the reluctance of publishers to even produce e-books at all, people who want e-books are starting to turn to that option as the only available choice.

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Luddite SF Authors[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 10:42:38 AM PDT

Just a quick note -- my fellow Anonymite is quite right about how little understanding of computers there is among SF authors. I'm a member of SFWA, the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America. (Yes, there's only one F in the acronym, it's a long story.) SFWA members get a monthly mailing which is essentially a big letter column, discussing issues relevant to the group and to the SF/F writing community as a whole. And you should see the fear and hatred some authors have expressed in those letters for the entire concept of electronic media. I could understand the fantasy writers -- you'd expect them to be uncomfortable with anything beyond vellum and oak-gall ink. But the SF authors? The way some of them talk, they sound like they'd be willing to destroy every computer in existence in order to preserve the pittance they make off their paper sales. Can't they see the pattern? Every new technology like this starts with piracy and ends with profit, from the printing press (producing "unauthorized" Bibles) to the VCR (how evil, they're timeshifting TV shows!) to the computer. How can someone whose job is extrapolating the future from the past and present be so blind to the potential in front of them?

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The answer to your question...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 06:18:58 PM PDT

Greed. Pure and simple

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Sorry, but that's just not true[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 23, 2004 at 12:21:25 AM PDT

No, that is flat wrong.  Most writers have other jobs, they don't make most of their money writing.  And there is a good argument that putting some older titles out free as "teasers" in e-format can often make them more money (see Baen).  But there are already lots of ways people read their books without them getting a dime, and they are worried that this is still another. Not all are against e-books, and I think the others would change their minds if they understood the actual situation.

(By the way, I wrote the top level comment in this thread.  I just HAVE to take the time to get an account here ...)

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some authors have been flayed[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 23, 2004 at 07:38:32 AM PDT

by vicious publishers. Anything that smacks of theft is automatically, instantly, with no conscious thought seen as a repeat of that kind of thing. There are reasons why the screen writers guild has the rules it has. T

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"Roll Your Own e-Books"[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 04:59:55 PM PDT

I just recently joined the PDA ranks and the one that had the features I wanted at the price I could pay was powered by Mediocre Software. It, of course, included their Mediocre Reader with Clear Type. One hard to miss feature of this program is a double warning that it is not yet activated. Considering the source, that is to be expected and I guess I will have to live with it, since there never will be a Passport account for me, so it never will be activated. That's okay, I don't need activation. I am learning here about Baen Books and I congratulate them and will check them out. However, there are also many books in the Gutenberg Library that I have wanted to read, but haven't had the time. The PDA makes it convenient to use those little bits of otherwise wasted time, doing such reading. And to make that even more convenient, there is now the Project-Gutenberg-Etext, files already to read. But if the text you want to read is not already in *.lit format, but you have it in *.txt or *.html format, you can "roll your own" with Michisoft Reader Studio! <http://www.michisoft.com> Michael Roemer offers a free for personal use conversion utility with a number of neat features. I have found some tutorials on the web that I want to dig into and now I don't have to read old magazines at the dentist's office, I have many alternatives right in my pocket. Yes, I think eText definitely has its place when it offers convenience and with a PDA, that convenience is having a selection of reading material handy to fill in those blank moments. But, reading a book sitting in front of a desktop or even holding a clumsy laptop, I don't thinks so. OWB

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E-Books and Amazon.com Experience[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 09:26:44 PM PDT

Your column today on e-books and DRM struck a nerve. I hadn't used e-books until recently. My son was looking for a book that was part of a series he was reading. Unable to find the print version locally, he looked on Amazon.com and found the book - but it was only available as an e-book. So we ordered the book, followed the instructions from Amazon for downloading and hit the first roadblock. Adoble Acrobat 5 on my computer (full version, not just the reader) wasn't good enough. Instead, Amazon's website required me to download Acrobat Reader 6 just so I could download the book we purchased. OK, so download Reader 6 and install, then go back to download the book. Then try to open the file - next problem. I needed to "activate" Reader 6 so that it could open the book. Go to the Adobe website where I was offered two choices - use my MS Passport account (didn't have and don't want) or open an Adobe account. I took choice two, set up the Adobe account and got Reader 6 activated. Finally, I'm able to open the book file. But when I tried to print the book so that I could give my son a paper copy to read, next problem. The book had been protected by DRM in Reader 6 so that printing, copying to the clipboard, and other tasks I'm used to doing on files had been disabled. Following these problems, I was informed by information on the Adobe website that I could only open the book on one computer and one PDA. Except that Adobe's software for PDAs only works with the Palm OS at this time (not enough demand for the MS Pocket PC OS at this time according to Adobe). So no luck transferring the file to my PDA (MS Pocket PC OS) so my son wouldn't be tethered to this computer. Given all of these problems, this was my first and last venture into e-books through Amazon. Just wish the Amazon site had warned me of what was in store before I ordered the book. Hope this helps those, like me, who may be thinking about e-books from Amazon (or other similar outlets) and don't yet know of the pitfalls.

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Welcome to E-Book Hell[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Van Rijn on Mon Feb 23, 2004 at 12:47:57 AM PDT

A while back, Microsoft Reader was changed so rights could be set so the e-book could only be read on the PC it had been downloaded to.   Many publishers quickly set this restriction - then complaints started flooding in, since these e-books could no longer be used on PDAs (the primary user market). There were many other problems. Barnes and Noble has stopped selling the stupid things in any format, just too much trouble.

More than a decade ago I had thought through many of the aspects of e-books and was looking forward to them.  I was elated when I started seeing Microsoft and other big companies were pushing them.  But I was dumbfounded when I read about DRM, and a comment by one publisher that "nobody but a crook would have a problem with this."  It simply hadn't occured to me they would do that.  After all, you can get books for free IN THE LIBRARY. At that point I knew the current e-book market was doomed.

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Library[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 24, 2004 at 12:58:32 PM PDT

Shhssss! Don't mention the library. Otherwise, pretty soon, DRM, hardback equivalent, will have them paying for each book based on how many clients might peruse it each month, similar to licensing for jukebox music in clubs and bars.

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Corporate Hostility Toward Libraries[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by Anonymous User on Wed Feb 25, 2004 at 05:10:52 AM PDT

You think you're only half-joking. You're wrong. The various branches of the media industry are frantically trying to come up with a way to get rid of public libraries because, shortsighted fools that they are, they see nothing but the loss of immediate revenue from circulated materials. They would rather nickel-and-dime the American public to death than have all the free advertising a library copy provides.
Free lending libraries have long been a dangerous precedent. It is in [the entertainment industry's] best interest to marginalize -- or, if possible, eliminate -- them. -- Jack Valenti, MPAA


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Belay that quote...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous User on Wed Feb 25, 2004 at 09:41:40 AM PDT

This is the same poster as above. I got that quote out of a bit of samizdata railing against the media companies, and didn't confirm it first. After posting I had second thoughts, and did the research I should have done before. I cannot find evidence that Valenti actually said it, so Ed, if you want to wipe it from the post, please feel free to do so.

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On the other hand, here's something appropriate[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by Anonymous User on Wed Feb 25, 2004 at 10:21:03 AM PDT

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A36584-2001Feb7&notFound=true">From the washington post,</a> you can see what the AAP thinks of publishers. The AAP is the book equivalent of the MPAA or the RIAA, with a slightly decreased lobbying budget.

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Same here[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 24, 2004 at 10:34:06 AM PDT

Had the same lovely experience with Amazon, although it was in trying to get a Linux PDF reader to work. I had trouble downloading the book initially, and then couldn't manage to figure out how to get the PDF reader to read the file. Fortunately I was able to find the book on Palm Digital Media, which has a slightly more normalized and sane locking mechanism. I chalk the money I wasted on Amazon as an experience in the evils of DRM, and will never purchase en eBook with DRM ever again.

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My experiences distributing ebooks of my novels[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by doctorow on Mon Feb 23, 2004 at 06:12:28 AM PDT

I've released two novels and most of a short story collection on the net simultaneous with their print publication by mainstream publishers (Tor Books for the novels, Four Walls Eight Windows for the short story collection), with hundreds of thousands of downloads of the electronic editions driving healthy sales of the print editions. The ebooks I released were in open, standards-defined formats, with a Creative Commons license allowing for free redistribution and encouraging readers to convert the books to their favorite electronic formats, provided that no DRM options were switched on.

I delivered a paper about my experiences with this earlier this month at the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference in San Diego, and dedicated the text of the talk to the public domain to be freely reused:

http://craphound.com/ebooksneitherenorbooks.txt

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Manning Books considering new DRM strategy[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 24, 2004 at 08:29:18 AM PDT

While you'd think that stories like this would make sense to anyone, Manning books is considering a new DRM strategy, possibly eliminating support for Linux computers, Palm, and Pocket PCs.

A survey was recently sent out across the internet, asking people whether or not they would consider buying Manning's books if they were restricted in this fashion. It cited the "alarming increase" in piracy of their ebooks, although there were no statistics. There's a certain amount of irony in conducting a survey on closing a medium by using free users groups, such as the Northern Virginia Java Users' Group, where I ran into the survey, which apparently originated with Iain Shieoka (iain@manning.com)

The survey reads:
----Manning eBook Poll----

Would you please take a minute to answer two questions to help us
develop our ebook program?

In order to provide more flexible licensing programs and to stem the
alarming increase in piracy of these ebooks, Manning is investigating
digital rights management (DRM) solutions for use on future ebooks. We
want to minimize the inconvenience of DRM while providing protection for
us and more flexibility for you.

1) Would you consider (or continue) to buy Manning eBooks if they are
only supported on Windows and MacOS X?

2) How critical is support for PDAs? (and if critical, what platform -
Palm, PocketPC, etc).

If you have any suggestions, comments, and in particular know of any
cross platform CRM client solutions, please let us know.

Thank you.

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I Love Polls[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#21)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 24, 2004 at 05:16:59 PM PDT

Is that verbatim?  "Windows" covers a lot of ground.  I would have assumed that included Windows PDAs until the second question.  I'd like to know what versions are included.  They probably don't mean Windows 286, but what about Windows 98?  Windows NT?  Windows 2000?

And the most important questions - Would you buy if the product used DRM?  Would you buy if it were only in X format? - weren't even mentioned.

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Even better than polls, self-selected respondents[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by gawaine on Wed Feb 25, 2004 at 10:16:53 AM PDT

And the most important questions - Would you buy if the product used DRM? Would you buy if it were only in X format? - weren't even mentioned.

The whole thing is pointless, anyway, for two reasons. They don't ask for any context, and since it was sent out to a yahoo group, only people who care enough to respond will do so. The self-selected respondents might actually be OK, if they're flooded with response from zealots, and the sheep that don't care about DRM just stay silent. From a research methods point of view, though, calling something a survey when its sent out like this is really pointless.

Since the replies are qualitative, not quantitative, I guess it doesn't matter that you could easily stuff the ballot box by using free email addresses, but when you don't have a concept of how many people were asked the question vs. how many people responded, its hard to know if you can trust your data at all. Without the context to put around it - your questions about DRM, or questions about a person's general buying habits, or questions about where they got the survey from - you can't know what it means to you, and who you have to make happy.



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Broken Adobe Reader Activation[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 24, 2004 at 10:57:24 AM PDT

I recently tried to download a Cliff's Notes eBook version of their notes on the Oedipus plays and ended up being unable to make it work. I made the purchase, but before I could download the PDF, I had to activate my copy of Adobe Reader. I went ahead and did that, but the download still failed. After two weeks of going back and forth with Cliff's Notes tech support, they could never make it work. Eventually, I requested a refund (which they promptly made).

Then I went to my local Barnes & Noble and purchased the Spark Notes equivalent. I drove to the B & N, made the purchase and was home within 20 minutes. By contrast, I spent a couple of wasted hours trying, failing and working with Cliff's Notes tech support. Hurray for brick and mortar!

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Palm Digital E-Books -- The Right Way To Do It[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by NuYorker on Tue Feb 24, 2004 at 04:52:44 PM PDT

Since I bought my first Palm V over 5 years ago, I've bought, downloaded and read over 150 ebooks from Palm Digital Media (formerly Peanut Press) (www.palmdigitalmedia.com) and have absolutely no complaints with their system. Yes, you need to use their proprietary reader (available for Palm, Pocket PC, and both Mac and PC desktops). Yes, you need to unlock your books with a password the first time you open them. Other than that, no DRM, no limits on where or how you read them. They have bestsellers, classics, fiction, nonfiction, everything you could want in a book store, and they constantly offer specials that let you get lots of great books for only a couple of bucks. I can read on the subway, in the doctor's office, in the elevator, anywhere I have a few minutes, and the book is always there, always open to where I left off. It truly has helped me remember how enjoyable a good book can be.

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Wrong.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
by Anonymous User on Tue Mar 16, 2004 at 12:20:19 PM PDT

I'm sorry, but PalmDigitalMedia does NOT do it right. NOBODY who uses encryption and unlock codes is right. I don't have to enter my credit card number to "validate" myself for paper books, so why should I have to for an electronic one. Also, with their proprietary format, if they go out of business, any books I've bought from them are unreadable if I change hardware. Also, their reader crashed my Palm V several years ago, and it required a HARD reset to clear the crash.

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e-books[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#26)
by vesta1953 on Sun Mar 07, 2004 at 12:44:55 PM PDT

I may end up p*ssing off a lot of people with this, but here goes. I read e-books on my computer all the time, in fact, I just finished 2 this weekend and have started the third. Now, I happen to own these 3 books in paperback, bought them many years ago, and they are falling apart because I've had them so long and read them so often. So I went to a newsreader, which shall remain anonymous, and downloaded them for free. No DRM, maybe some typos if they weren't proof-read all that well, but basically the same book I bought earlier. I happen to have about 1500 books that I've downloaded and burned to a cd. Sure, I can only read them on my computer at home, or the computer at work if I take the cd with me, but that's not a problem for me. And unlike the paperbacks that I've paid for over the years (and believe me, I've bought and paid for a couple of thousand of them and still have most of them in boxes, stored away), these won't fade, fall apart, or disintegrate over time. Not all of the e-books are in the same format, some are .rar, some are .lit, and some are .pdb, but I have all the readers downloaded on my pc and backed up, so the format doesn't matter to me, I can read them all. I don't want to print them, can't afford the ink and paper to do all that anyway. I just want to be able to read the books without them falling apart on me (I have several that are so old they are no longer glued together and have to be read, literally, one page at a time, pick up the page, read it, read the other side, put it down, go to the next page, and so on for the whole book). If I find an e-book that I like and have downloaded, I usually go out and buy it in paperback if it's available, but I have a lot of out-of-print e-books for which I cannot find hard copies. So there are options out there for people who want e-books and don't want to pay for them. Newsreaders are just one of the places to look, there are other places to get them, just like getting mp3's without paying for them.

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Good books at reasonable prices[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#32)
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