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A Model License

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 08:58:40 AM PDT

There are some -- indeed, there may be many -- software publishers who are willing to offer their customers fair terms. But why should they? How likely is it to bring them more business?


At least one software developer's experience says that it's not all that likely. "About a year ago, I decided to change the EULA and my licensing policies for my products," says Michael Baker, owner of Code-It Software, a maker of audio editing and other multimedia tools. "My goal was to offer the fairest EULA out there short of open source. I did it for several reasons. First, because I thought it was the right thing to do. I've been following your views for several years and I've joined AFFECT. And, I thought by doing it right, it ought to help my business."

Baker's EULA is indeed more than fair, and his policies eschew all the nasties like DRM and spyware, but so far the evidence is that not many customers care. "I ran a survey where I gave a software application free to any visitor that responded," Baker says. "One of the questions was 'Does the EULA, or the fact that the registered software requires no unlock key codes, DRM or intrusive registration policies -- affect your purchase?' The result of over 1,000 views was that 96 percent said NO! It was unbelievable to me. It seems to me that the average bear is so used to product activation schemes that it makes no difference except to the very informed. You've got to know that most users will get 'burned' sooner or later - but it seems it is just accepted. I am keeping my policies because I still think it is the right thing to do, but I know that I am probably throwing away dollars by doing so."

There are many things to like about Baker's EULA, including its endorsement of fair use rights for educational and library purposes, pledges to not knowingly release software with back doors or known bugs that could result in damage to data (the Code-it website even has a page of known bugs), and a warranty that the code does not infringe on intellectual property rights of third parties. Overall, I think it can serve very well as a fine template for a model fair license agreement. And, in that regard, I hope those of you who are interested will come look it over in detail and share your thoughts with us online in the EULA Reviews section of the GripeLog.

But what's the point of looking at model EULAs if, as Baker has found, they don't result in more sales for those software publishers that use them? Well, perhaps there's a cart we have to set before the horse here. It's no shock to discover that most of the visitors to Baker's site couldn't care less about what his terms say. The product itself is what matters most, of course, and then the price. Besides, we've all been trained to think of software terms as something we don't get to see until after we buy and that we can just assume are going to be totally one-sided in favor of the publisher. Of course 96 percent would say they don't care.

Baker's in a crowded field -- anyone in the market for an inexpensive or even a free audio editor tool can find a host of programs from which to choose. And I'm not in a position to tell you whether the Code-It tools are better or worse than anyone else's. But I can tell you, or you can see for yourself, that his tools don't come with spyware/adware sneakwrap buried deep in the EULA. Some others do. As I've said many times, you don't actually know what price you're paying for a product until you know what the terms really are.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were a way you could readily tell which software programs follow some minimum standards of fair dealing? That's the point of looking at all these license agreements in all this detail: we need to set those standards. And then the next step will be to make it easier for customers to identify the companies that meet or exceed those standards. I'm not entirely sure how that will work, although I've heard some very good ideas from readers that we'll be discussing soon. I do know this though: Code-It Software isn't the only software company that is more than willing to give customers an even break. Help me find more of them, and help me find a way to reward them for doing so.

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Keep Up the Good Work[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 09:33:46 AM PDT

It's sad that buyers apparently don't care whether they're treated fairly or not, but I believe he should keep doing this. Perhaps people don't really believe what he's saying initially. But eventually word of mouth from satisfied customers should make him stand out from the crowd.

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Word of mouth[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by durth on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 09:49:55 AM PDT

Amen to the "word of mouth comment". I have done absolutely no advertising after the first month of being in business (and all of that was the old shoe leather and introduction kind). I get all of my business via "word of mouth" and I love it. I am disturbed that that many customers stated that the EULA did not matter to them. It is pathetic. As for me, I know that if me or one of my customers ever need that kind of software, I will be looking at his first.

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i[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
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Needed: some sort of Approval Seal[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 09:52:14 AM PDT

We need a EULA approval organization.  Something like a Good Houskeeping Seal of Approval, or a UL Listing approval.  When I buy something electrical, I've alway looked for the UL label.  That's because I've been burnt by a few purchases that were not UL approved.  Since I lack the time and energy (and perhaps the knowledge) to thoroughly evaluate the things UL looks for, this label means a lot to me.

We need an organization to grant a EULA Seal of Approval.  Any product with this Seal would be assured of being free of spyware/addware/DRM/copy protection, and would be assured of having a balanced EULA.  Few have the time and energy (and perhaps the knowledge) to thoroughly evaluate every EULA.  This Seal would assure me that the EULA has been thoroughly evaluated by experts.  If it existed, it would start to influence purchases.

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Excellent Idea[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by ChuckGabriel on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 10:04:07 AM PDT

That idea definitely has some merit. I could even be profitable to the person to has the wherewithall to implement it. Of course it would be tough at first to convince software publishers that their products need to have your seal of approval to be successful, but it could really catch on.

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Re: Needed: some sort of Approval Seal[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 08:44:27 PM PDT

Rather than try to give an overall grade to a particular EULA, I would like to see a report card that would rate different aspects of the EULA. I think this would be easier than coming up with an overall grade because some features of a EULA could be more important for some types of purchases. For example, transferability is much more important for a $1000 purchase than a $30 purchase.

The method of grading should be as objective as possible. I would like to see grades for things like transferability (transferable without contacting vendor, transferable with vendor participation without fee, transferable with vendor participation with fee, nontransferable), warrantee (no warrantee, media warrantee, warranted to perform to a specification), and "phoning home" (software never required to contact vendor [software may contact vendor with explicit user permission to check for updates], software must contact vendor exactly once, software must contact vendor more than once).

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Re: Needed: some sort of Approval Seal[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Mon Oct 11, 2004 at 10:20:22 AM PDT

Great idea. Does anyone know if the Consumers' Union might be interested in this? They seem like the perfect organization to take on the challenge -- already organized, already with a good reputation, has the resources to get the word out there and the legal clout to stand up to the first deep-pockets company that doesn't want its customers to see how badly they're being shafted.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 08:13:30 PM PDT

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DRM or registration policies[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 09:57:58 AM PDT

Maybe the question needs addressing: 'Does the EULA, or the fact that the registered software requires no unlock key codes, DRM or intrusive registration policies -- affect your purchase? to: Would software activation, based on your hardware, and subject to occasional authentication, affect your purchasing decision?

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EULA[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by schda on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 10:27:58 AM PDT

Maybe he should consider going into a software field that is not so crowded with vendor and so few users. Beyond that, I can't imagine that users do not care. I know the value of time, so if I can get away from the activation hassles, the difficult to reach tech support, and the marketing arrogance; I am ready to buy and at a cost above the going rate for similar kinds of software. For example, if someone has software that would replace my QuickBooks and TurboTax, tell me where I sign! (I care enough that I did my taxes the old-fashioned way -- on paper -- this past year.)

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The 96%[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 10:40:43 AM PDT

I can believe that response. In the organization that I work for (a State Government Agency), software procurement is done on large agencywide contracts. It's very difficult for an individual employee to influence software procurement decisions at all, let alone on something as esoteric (to procurement officers) as EULA terms. If I were to raise a stink, the first thing I would be told is 1) I shouldn't be pirating software anyway (a non sequitur, but that's what they'd say) and 2) There's no staff support for a change from (say, Microsoft Word [TM]) to (say Open Office) over a EULA agreement.

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more[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 10:42:17 AM PDT

I think the reason 96% said NO is that most people have not actually been inconvenienced by EULA terms since they don't personally run afoul of them. If more people had EULA terms invoked against them, they would be more attuned to this issue. Much of the 96% is due to simple ignorance or indifference.

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Amen, brother.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 11:25:59 AM PDT

"Nobody" cares till it happens to them.  I've been burned (once) and I've burned back (twice).  One product from a Swedish software company with an activation code failed to reinstall after a hard disk crash and new equipment.  It took me three weeks to get a response from the company for a new code.  And that only happened after my Internet search turned up an American financial partner in this company who interceded for me.    I have since taken every opportunity to warn people in forums for this product that they are taking a risk when purchasing this software.  (The company sent me a non-activation-dependent version ... to shut me up?)  Another software publisher attempted to initiate activation codes in a new version, but thru the efforts of myself and other users, screaming our bloody heads off in the software forums, the publisher backed down and removed the activation scheme.  I recently purchased a new program that I discovered (after the purchase) also used activation codes.  Their scheme is one of the best I've seen, but still subject to the same problems that can arise in unusual circumstances.  But, since there is no really acceptable software alternative for this product, I'm stuck with it.  It's an excellent product, but I doubt if I'll be upgrading it when new versions are released.  And, finally, I'm done with Photoshop.  Now that Adobe plans to institute activation codes, I'll just be sticking with my current version from here on out.  So, maybe most people don't care until they've been burned, but, then, when they do decide to care, if they care enough, they can sometimes turn the tide in their favor.

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The 4%[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 11:32:15 AM PDT

Sometimes it is the 4% that matter most. As was mentioned above a lot of good business is gotten due to word of mouth. I get customers who call all the time asking me to recommend a product, or talk about some kind of product. Now I may never buy his product, because I don't need it, but if I tell the people who call me about his product, and the reason I do is because of the EULA and the activation, they may not care, they are in the 96%, but I do and my recommendation earns him business, and better than that, repeat business.

Us consultant who are in the 4% and "give a rip" can influence the other 96% that don't care, so it is worth his while to advertise this, and "Keep up the good work." With his help maybe we can start influencing some of the bigger software houses.

Thank you for having a fair license. Now I know who to recommend when I need audio software.

Maybe what we need is a place to advertise products with a fair license so I can find this software when a customer asks.

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Not sure which side I would have been...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Mason on Fri Oct 08, 2004 at 12:53:37 PM PDT

I don't trust, believe, or even read most EULAs.  How many people do?  Why bother?  Here's what you get:  "We're right, you're wrong.  We can change our terms at any time.  We might include spyware, but you'll need to be a lawyer to figure it out from this!  Hee Hee!"

I would (and do) go out of my way to buy software free of DRM and Product Activation, regardless of what the EULA says.  Serial numbers are about the only level of protection I'll tolerate, as long as the software doesn't phone home to validate.  (Better hope you don't have to reinstall CuteFTP more than a few times)...

I welcome the effort to highlight companies like Code-It, and would be likely to buy from them if they provide something I need.

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Results affected by market?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Sat Oct 09, 2004 at 10:59:15 PM PDT

Baker's software is under $20, so he isn't selling to corporations. For business software I write, the license agreement can be very important. Some customers want to negotiate their own terms when they're spending more than $40k. My LA is mostly copied from Borland and Aldus, which were pretty general and haven't needed to be updated in a decade. Borland advertised a "plain language" license agreement, and Aldus let you install your software on another computer so you could take your work home.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 08:13:15 PM PDT

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EULA Workaround[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:57:00 PM PDT

I applaud Mr. Baker's efforts to devise a fair EULA, and I would certainly go out of my way to patronize a publisher who strives to treat its customers fairly. In my experience, Mr. Baker is certainly in a small minority of publishers who are actively interested in doing so. Unfortunately, most of the software I regularly use is published by the well-known vendors, who include typically onerous terms in their EULAs. Rather than purchase a product whose license terms are unknown and unknowable until the retailer has received my money, I protect myself ahead of the purchase. I always purchase using a credit card, and I endorse the receipt in the following manner: "Acceptance of consumer's payment binds retailer and publisher to all terms of Consumer's Software Sales Agreement," and then sign the receipt. When the charge shows up on my credit card statement, I have confirmation that a binding contract has been freely entered into by all interested parties. I don't open the software until I have such confirmation. A key provision of my CSSA is that any future attempts to restrict my usage of the software must be presented in writing and signed by both parties. Consequently, the publisher's EULA can never have any force and effect since the publisher (and/or its agent acting on its behalf) has already agreed to waive its provisions prior to its activation. Of course, my CSSA is at least as onerous towards the retailers and publishers than most of their EULAs are towards consumers. In fact, my CSSA contains an indemnification clause that would cover all my costs of any actions they might bring against me (regardless of whether they are successful), in addition to imposing punitive damages for even attempting to enforce their EULA. To date, no retailer or software publisher has challenged me regarding this endorsement, nor has any party ever even requested a copy of its terms. I haven't found occasion to attempt to enforce it yet, but I'm certainly looking forward to the legal tussle that would result. I'm not a lawyer, but it honestly escapes me how any publisher's undisclosed shrinkwrap EULA could be held to be enforceable. If this doesn't meet the definition of a contract of adhesion, I don't know what would.

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While EULA's fighting goes on, this sneaks in[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by seeRpea on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 05:48:05 PM PDT

INDUCE is dead, but it seems it was just floated in order to take everyones eyes off the real ball. Check out HR 4077 the "Piracy Deterrence in Education". Aside from making the Oak the official tree of the USA (I'm not kidding), it serverly changes copyright law and the governmental enforcing private claims.

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EULA'S AND COPY PROTECTION[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 09:23:16 AM PDT

I am a network administrator and it is my job to work by the book! If I need 2 copies of any software I buy them. I haste having to waist my time going to some website to register and get a code so I can use what I paid for.

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Also a matter of defining policies[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Sat Oct 16, 2004 at 06:00:47 PM PDT

As a lawyer who drafts software licenses and sees the viewpoints of buyers and sellers, I commend the decency of offering a straight-forward license. Borland used to be proud of its no-nonsense license, and rightly so. It made a difference.

Often, licensing is an afterthought in the software development process, and those managing the marketing of the software lack a clear definition of the objectives and policies that a seller wants to pursue. The legal field is not exactly crowded with experts in that area, so the inclination of many is to advise sellers to tighten all terms, like a noose around the buyers' necks.

I am not convinced that license certifications really help. In the opensource area, the certification option leads to stifling new license developments. Considering that opensource licensing has been around only for some 15 years, that is amazing. Like software development, license development means working within a fast moving environment. The speed at which lawmakers generate new parameters exceeds the speed at which developers can create new languages.

CK

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