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Forced to Play the Rebate Game

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 09:23:26 AM PDT

The problem with rebates isn't just those companies that don't want to pay up. For many readers, the biggest problem is just the fact that they are forced to play the rebate game at all.

In a recent weblog entry, I asked readers for feedback on which vendor of IT products was the champ of deadbeat rebates. While there were plenty of nominations, the surprise was how many readers complained about feeling forced to participate in rebate promotions. Rebates that represent a significant part of the price are now so common in many product categories that you have to play the game in order to get the going rate.


Many customers who would prefer to eschew rebates find themselves instead having to fight to get their check. "Rebates are one of the most pervasive frauds in business today," wrote one reader. "While I've has success hounding some of them, the cost of my time and aggravation exceeds the amount of the rebate -- which is what they're counting on. I'd like to see federal regulation of standards for how rebate claims are handled."

Everyone from individual consumers to IT managers can feel the pressure created by after-rebate prices that aren't as low as they seem. "My boss sees these great (after-rebate) prices advertised in the paper, and so he expects that's what he's going to pay," wrote an IT manager. "If you factor in all the hassles of schlepping down to the store, filling out all the forms, screaming when the rebate check doesn't arrive after months and months, etc., our regular vendors can actually give us a much better deal. But he just sees that price."

Deadbeat rebates are all the more costly because they now often represent money no one wants to lose. "We purchased two seats of AutoCad that had a rebate of $200 each," wrote another reader. "We registered for the rebate online and then mailed the required paperwork per the program. Weeks after the specified payment period, I telephoned the rebate center and was asked to re-submit the paperwork via fax, which I did. After another period of months, I called the rebate center to be told that the program had ended, and no further processing was being done. I talked to supervisors and was transferred directly to AutoDesk, who transferred me back to the rebate center when they found out the subject of my call. This circular process went on for about three cycles before I gave up. It looks like we're out $400."

As I've often said, if the company really wanted you to have the after-rebate price, they'd just give you a discount instead. This becomes even more obvious in the case of rebates offered by on-line retailers. "I ordered some software on Amazon.com," wrote one reader. It includes a $30 rebate that is from Amazon. So, why can't Amazon just deduct it from the price? They know it's me that got it. They know they shipped it to me. They know I qualify. So, why do I have to get the software, print out their rebate and receipt -- which they KNOW I have -- and then send it back?"

As always, readers reported a wide variety of lame excuses and sneaky outs used by the deadbeats. "An (OfficeMax rebate) on an HP LaserJet 1200 was advertised for $100," wrote one reader. "The rebate was prominently listed in the OfficeMax February flyer, and ads for the rebate were prominently displayed over the printer on 10 February, when I bought one. The very fine print on the rebate coupon claimed only three days in January and Feb 1, as the purchase window. Why the signs were left up in the store two weeks later and why 'February's' rebate book prominently listed the rebate -- and why their cash register gave you a rebate slip for that item -- one can only guess."

So who did readers say was the worst offender when it comes to debate rebates? It was a close vote, with Autodesk, Amazon, Canon, Circuit City, CompUSA, Dell, HP, IBM, Maxtor, Microsoft, OfficeMax, Parago/RebatesHQ.com, RebateStatus.com, Roxio, Sony, and Toshiba all receiving multiple votes. Coming in a strong second was our old friend Intuit, mostly on the basis of complaints about TurboTax rebates. (Yes, at the very same time Intuit was alienating so many TurboTax customers with its product activation scheme, it was also annoying them with rebate problems.)

Edging them out all out, though, was Symantec. Most of the problems with Symantec seemed to involve difficultly in communicating with the company and/or rebate fulfillment house RebateStatus.com over missing rebates. "For me, the champ is Symantec," wrote one reader. " Two software suites, neither rebate was honored, for nonsensical reasons. Additionally, they don't answer e-mail . . . they have an (automated system) doing that. They're bye-bye for me, as opposed to buy-buy. When my subscription runs out, it will be the end of the line."

Of course, it should be noted that a number of readers said they use rebates all the time without any significant problem. And some rebate purveyors received praise, mostly notably Sam's Club. Readers reported the WalMart-owned membership warehouse makes it easy to apply for rebates on-line, and will even notify them by e-mail when they are in danger of missing the application deadline for a rebate.

So apparently there is more than one way to play the rebate game. If rebates are a game we must play, let's just hope that Symantec, Intuit, etc. learn to do it the right way.

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I vote for Intuit[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by glenn354 on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 09:35:14 AM PDT

I purchased QB2003 Pro with a $120 upgrade rebate. After not receiving it, I called the toll-free number. It had been disconnected. I called Intuit. They said someone would call. A week later, someone did call and asked me to fax the copies I had kept to him. He promised a return call when they received it. Another two weeks went by with no call, so I faxed them again. And again a week later. No response, but I finally got my $120. This wasn't some $3 rebate off a stack of CDs. It was for me upgrading and being a loyal customer. Well, if I can't get the rebate, Peachtree looks comparable.

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Intuit Rebates[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#31)
by VTSkier on Sun Aug 31, 2003 at 06:50:56 PM PDT

I had a good experience with Intuit this year. Received my TurboTax, E-Filing and State rebates in a matter of weeks. Maybe I'm lucky :)

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No complaints about Apple[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by BEWilson on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 10:10:53 AM PDT

So let me post a compliment for Apple's rebate. I bought a G4 Powerbook and a Canon printer. The rebate covered the cost of the printer. I sent in the appropriate forms and what I thought was the correct pieces off the boxes. Two weeks later, I get a letter indicating that my application was incomplete and that I had 90 days to fix the problem. It gave an 800 number to call with questions. I called the number, and 2 minutes later I'm talking to a human being. He calls up my application and tells me exactly what I'm missing from the rebate application and exactly where to find it on the boxes (which I fortunately still had). I mailed those pieces, along with a copy of the letter to the supplied address. Three weeks later, the check was in my hands.

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Rebates[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 10:13:05 AM PDT

This is a truth in advertising issue. The FTC should step into this scam. If merchants themselves were required to sell an item at the price advertised with rebate and collect the rebate themselves, we would see the rebate game come to a quick end. Lower prices without annoying rebates would be the result.

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What a rebate is[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 10:39:04 AM PDT

For sellers, the point of rebates is not to give the buyer a discount on the price of an item. It's to give the buyer an incentive to buy an over-priced item with the promise of a later return of part of the purchase price. The seller knows that a certain percentage of the buyers will not bother to turn in the paperwork or will forget to do it or will do it incorrectly so the rebate will be refused. The result is a lower total discount on all the items sold and higher sales because of the incentive. Rebates are not going to go away.

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CPG[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#72)
by PushPin on Tue Aug 15, 2006 at 12:41:20 AM PDT

I work for a company call CPG. This is a rebate processing centre. And I can say one thing is that you would not belive all the stuff that goes on there. CPG processes rebates for major major comapnies such as costco, inphonic, homedepot, canon,dell,gateway(e-machines). When you mail in a rebate it gets sent along with thosounds of other rebate submissions. After about 2 weeks of it sitting in a disgusting wearhouse they call in the "homeworkers" to come pick up the mail. CPG hires random people to come in and pick up mail and entre or data process the information. These people are only paid 10 cents an entry and how hard and accurate do u think these people are gonna work to put that information in. Almost 60% of homeworkers quit and just throw away their mail from home. So when a customer calls in to check status we say " Oh thats weird i am not sure why there is no record for you in our system" We then ask the customer to fax in documents if they had kept copies. The fax number is a joke and is hardly ever working. Sometimes CPG will just hold on to as many faxes as possible b4 working on them so we will have work for the next month. I know i am rambling but ia m very frustrated at this company it scams people and they never get their money. Dont people me? Just type the words Inphonic and CPG and Scam on the net and you will see thousands of complaints and class action law suit. Please people dont evere apply for rebates if you are truly needed and counting on the money in return because it is extremely unlikly you will ever reveive it.

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The problem is..[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 11:51:44 AM PDT

Look on ebay and see how many people are reselling stuff that they buy FAR (free after rebate) with rebates. Look on Amazon itself and see how many people are selling the very software that Amazon itself was selling FAR last week (before they sold out). The only semi-reliable way to limit purchases is to require people to submit the paperwork.

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Forced to play the rebate game[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by rudolphm on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 10:39:41 AM PDT

On the plus side of rebate handling, I nominate Costco. The form they print out with the register receipt is fully documented, and they have never failed to send the money. That said, I am fully with those who wish we never had to deal with rebates. They are a fundamentally dishonest marketing ploy.

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costco ...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#40)
by Anonymous User on Tue Sep 16, 2003 at 05:21:14 PM PDT

They even now will take many rebates via an online system - just fillout the web form with data from the reciept and the check is sent. pretty good and easy to use.

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Rebates - success with Staples[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 11:24:23 AM PDT

They do it well - they print out the extra receipt at time of purchase, and you send your materials to a Staples (not manufacturer's) address. You process through the Staples site, receive a confirmatory email from the Staples site, receive a email announcing the success of your rebate process (along with a noce 'The check is sent' message) and receive a check from Staples. I don't know how they coorsinate this with the actual vendors, nor do I care. I just know that I have had great success with their program!

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Staples[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 01:51:00 PM PDT

Thanx for the heads up about Staples. I have wanted to refuse to do business with Office Depot and, particularlyOfficeMax because of their rebate BS/scam, but had no where else to go. Now I can shift my business to Staples.

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It's not Staples you're dealing with[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 11:49:39 AM PDT

This is rather amusing, because you keep saying "A Staples rebate, Staples sent me a check". None of that was Staples. It was RebatesHQ (aka Parago) who has a dedicated site for Staples rebates. The last thing you did with Staples was get the rebate form and receipt. Now, Parago does do a pretty decent job of paying Staples rebates, because Staples obviously pays them promptly so a check can be sent to you in a timely manner. But it's definitely not Staples who is cutting your check.

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thumbs up for staples[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#55)
by Anonymous User on Fri Jan 09, 2004 at 07:02:04 PM PDT

I bought a clearance shelf fax machine from them ... they knocked a bit off the price (originally $1400, end cost $400), and almost a year later, dug out the receipt so I could prove the machine could be repaired under warranty.

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Staples Rebates[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#63)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 22, 2004 at 04:09:55 PM PDT

Well someone must be having good luck with Staples. I have been cheated out of 2 rebates now. This last one was suppose to be for $30 and they are going to send $9? The numbers for the product are right on the slip but they shred them after they process them so its up to me to send it again and odds are I will see nothing AGAIN. I will never buy from Staples again. I have had no problems with Costco, so far. Just remember to photocopy everything in triplicate! I am going to the store and return the phone and if they won't take it file a complaint with my credit card company for fraud on their part. This has become a war!

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I've also had problems with Staples rebates![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#68)
by Anonymous User on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 08:05:18 PM PDT

I bought a 512MB PNY SD card on 2/28/2005. It was eligible for a $10 rebate, and I submitted the rebate request to www.stapleseasyrebates.com the same day. Parago is refusing to pay me the $10, and the reasons they're giving for doing so make no sense and contradict the information about my submission available to me on their own Web site. Of course, they refuse to explain the contradictions. See http://www.mit.edu/~jik/staples-story/ for the whole story, which I'm keeping current with updates as they occur.

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Yes, it is a game, but...[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 12:02:58 PM PDT

It can be enormously profitable, if played correctly and diligently. I printed out my "rebates" budget category last night, and over the last 3-1/2 years, I've submitted 60 rebates with a total value of $1,500. There were only three that I had to do any followup on, and only two of those took more than one phone call to resolve. Even if I'd given those up, I'm still way ahead. If I only count half the rebate amount as true value (ex: $100 item w/$40 rebate that can be had for $80 elsewhere w/o rebate, so my *real* savings is only $20), and figure I spend, say 10 minutes of my time for each one, that's a payback of $80/hour - not bad. Of course, the manufacturers count on the fact that not everyone will send in the rebate, or they won't fill out the forms properly, or they won't get it in on time - that's why it's a game. If they killed the rebates entirely, they'd never be able to offer the same discount - that $40 rebate for the diligent few would turn into a $5 discount for the masses. Some may prefer the latter. I don't care - if the $5 discount is the best price I can find, I'll take it. If there's a $40 rebate, I'll go for it. Now, having said that, I do believe there ARE serious problems with the rebate system as a whole. Manufacturers and retailers SHOULD be held accountable - by what mechanism, I'm not sure. Clearly, there are a lot of folks that aren't receiving their rebates. Unlike gambling, however, if you play the rebate game regularly, over time, you will win.

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Rebate class action suit[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by rodak on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 12:12:25 PM PDT

I got an interesting letter the other day. Four people have brought a class action suit against Circuit City, Best Buy, Staples, etc. claiming they didn't pay out on some Newcom rebates about 6 years ago. There will be a $1.6million settlement fund, of which $900,000 will go to the lawyers, and the rest will go to pay class members, if they win. The payoff for lucky class members? a coupon worth $10 off a $200 purchase at one of the targeted retailers - whoopee. Oh, yeah, the four jerks who filed the suit will get $4,000 each. Now, who are the big winners here? Yep, the lawyers. Good work, guys - Sheesh!

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Best Buy[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by byelen on Fri Aug 15, 2003 at 06:27:30 AM PDT

In the interests of fairness, last year I purchased a HP computer/printer/monitor bundle that came with a $200 rebate from BestBuy. The rebate center disallowed my rebate with no explanation. Having been unable to get any info from the rebate center, I went back to the store. Turns out that the sales clerk gave me misinformation on the monitor model, and I was not entitled to the rebate. The store manager credited the amount I had expected to receive via rebate back to my account, as it was their fault and I should not have to suffer for their mistakes.

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Another good experience with...Tiger Direct![ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by rodak on Fri Aug 15, 2003 at 08:33:47 AM PDT

Congrats! There still are some good guys out there, after all, eh? I had a similar experience with, of all places, Tiger Direct! I bought a tape drive with a $30 rebate that turned out to be expired. It did take a few phone calls, but in the end, they cut me a check for the $30, since it was their fault for advertising the wrong date.

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Bad Business Practice at Tiger Direct[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#42)
by Anonymous User on Fri Sep 19, 2003 at 07:13:41 PM PDT

I bought a camcorder from Tiger Direct through their website. They sent me a confirmation of the transaction. I was happy as I thought I was getting a good deal. The next day when I tried to track my order, their system tells me that my order doesn't exist. When I called them I was told that they posted the wrong price on their website and they will not honour the sale. Isn't this false advertising? I will never buy anything from Tiger Direct. My company will never buy anything from Tiger Direct. I'm going to tell my friends and relatives not to my anything from Tiger Direct.

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Tiger Direct[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#61)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 18, 2004 at 08:21:12 AM PDT

Ive had problems with Tiger to the point of never doing business with them. Long ago I had purchased a bus mouse from them and they sent it without the board. When I called to complain I was told those items are sold separetly.

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Newcom lawsuit[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 11:25:25 AM PDT

I got one of these Newcom class action suit letters too. I did get my Newcom $20 rebate after a year of trying - after getting the state attorney general office and Best Buy headquarters involved so I don't need to be involved in the suit. I agree that this suit is just a windfall for the lawyers. The discount is meaningless since it just gives money right back to the stores who were involved in the mess to begin with.

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Agreed[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#26)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 20, 2003 at 09:51:48 AM PDT

As a lawyer, I agree with you. Such actions distort the law and deceive our sense of justice. As an equipment purchaser, I feel deceived by companies like Tigerdirect.com which now sell a switch for $19 minus a $10 rebate that a few months ago cost a straight $9, and now rebate-inflate apparently the majority of items - to the point of having to send two rebate coupons with assorted documentation for one item to two different rebate administrators hiding in the same POBox. And so much stuff hyper-rebate-inflated, like $49 but advertised as $9 plus asterisk. Looking to change vendors.

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Lawyers[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#32)
by VTSkier on Sun Aug 31, 2003 at 06:52:44 PM PDT

It's always the lawyers who get the settlement. What a racket!

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Circuit City Suit[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#59)
by Anonymous User on Fri Aug 06, 2004 at 08:42:35 AM PDT

I was sent a letter too! Along with the letter was a merchandize store credit card. There was no mention in the letter of how much the credit was for. When I took it to Circuit City, they told me the credit balnce on the card was $0.00 That is why I went to the store. Needless to say, I will not go back again!

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Rebates[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 01:54:48 PM PDT

Thanks for the chance to "vote", Ed, but I vote with my billfold. I'm sure that the couple of thousand a year that I spend on office stuff won't make or break Office Max, but they sure as hell won't see any more of my money due to their rebate BS/scam. I vote with my billfold and encourage others to do the same. AND be sure to let the merchants know about it or it does little good.

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Data mining is the real game[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by ergo on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 02:56:14 PM PDT

I'm surprised so many people focus on the problems of rebate "deadbeats". You ought to worry more about what the rebate houses do with your personal information. Every time you send your name, home address, email address, and phone number, you help update their databases. That information is sold to marketers of all sorts -- spammers, those suppertime telemarketers, bulk mailers, vendors, legitimate manufacturers -- as well as insurance companies and law enforcement agencies from time to time. The value of your current personal information (including the buying habits you reveal through rebate applications) far outweighs any profit losses that retailers and manufacturers incur through rebate offers.

Instant (in-store) rebates, on the other hand, are just a ploy to make you think you're getting something more valuable than the price you're paying. You're a sucker if you believe it!

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Marketing info[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by rodak on Fri Aug 15, 2003 at 08:30:43 AM PDT

You're probably right, but anecdotally, here's my experience as one who's submitted a LOT of rebates: Junk mail: I get virtually none, and the little I do get is rarely even remotedly related to any of the stuff I've done rebates on (mostly technology stuff). Telemarketing: Since signing up for my state's No-Call list 3 years ago, I get virtually no telemarketing calls at all - maybe one every couple of months - seriously!. Side-note - I usually put my work phone number on the rebate forms - if they REALLY need to call me, that's the best place to reach me during the day anyway. Spam: I have my own domain, with unlimited email forwarding (costs me a whopping $50/year, including domain name reg, and a 100MB web site), so the I always put unique, identifiable email address on the form. Example: officemax@mydomain.com. That way, if I DO get spam as a result of a rebate, I know where it came from. To date, I've gotten a total of about 6 spams traceable to a TaxCut rebate from 2001 - that's it! My email provider will "deactivate" any address I ask them to, so even if I do get spammed, it's real easy to turn it off Use of personal info for marketing purposes does sound like a legitimate concern, but in my case, at least, the impact has been virtually nil. ymmv.

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I agree[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 12:10:23 PM PDT

I have not seen much of anything in terms of spam, etc. as a result of rebates. Yeah, Peachtree keeps trying to see me accounting services and upgrades, but I did get a $200 piece of software for free, and the mail is likely as a result of registering (which I had to do to get the rebate). I don't understand people who claim that they're mining this information. BTW, the "instant rebate" wording is just another word for "sale". Maybe people like it better if they tell you that it's an "instant rebate" as opposed to just "$5 off regular price".

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rebates rule![ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 14, 2003 at 08:11:57 PM PDT

since '98 i have done over $3000 in rebates. this year is a banner year -- over $750 so far. in all that time i have missed a total of $20 because i was using a friends name to submit a rebate (yes i cheat sometimes) and he had already done a rebate for the same thing :) i scan all the rebates into paperport ($45 rebate) with my visioneer scanner ($20 rebate) and put it into my handspring ($50 rebate) with an appointment to check online in 2 weeks and call in 8. they forgot an $8 rebate for officemax a week ago. when it didn't show up i emailed rebateshq with the info, they added it and the check will get to me in the same amount of time. my savings has $3000 that it wouldn't have in it now because of rebates and i am smilin all the way to the bank. rebates rule if you do what they say to do. need to do the 3 follows: follow directions, follow up, and follow me back to officemax :) sleepy

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The rebate game[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by paladin on Fri Aug 15, 2003 at 09:15:32 PM PDT

I have to echo an earlier poster's experience--I have *never* failed to receive a rebate for which I applied on time and with the expected documentation. In fact, my experience has been that one of the most egregious offenders mentioned, Circuit City, has been the most rapid to remit my rebate when the necessary forms, receipts, etc. were submitted within the accepted time window. The two slowest have been Roxio and Symantec, but even they came through, although well beyond the time frame in which they said they would. Like the previous author, I have tracked my rebate purchases (I use a HanDBase database I wrote specifically for the purpose) over the last 18 months, and I have received over $800 in rebates, without ever having to contact the issuer by phone, email, or any other method. Not to put too fine a point on it, but you do have to read the *specific* requirements and *comply fully* to receive the rebate. If that's too much trouble, buy at retail. The rest of us will continue to reap the benefits of rebates.

Yes, it is a game. Yes, they fully expect that most people will be too lazy to either submit the rebate on time or to fulfill the necessary requirements. That is how they can afford to give a $50 software package away (with a $20 rebate and a $30 upgrader's rebate, as a Symantec package I recently bought) to those who are willing to take the trouble. If everyone actually complied with all the rebate requirements within the time frame allowed, you would see such offers either drastically reduced or completely eliminated. They're counting on the fact that most of us won't remember/take the time/check their submissions in order to pay for the ones of us who do. It's effective advertising, and it clearly works. Live with it.

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Costco + for rebates[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 11:12:10 AM PDT

The only rebate I have been sucessful in getting was thru costco which did all the work for me. Had a website to expedite the proceedure. Info about it on my receipt. In all very painless.

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You must be doing something wrong[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#21)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 11:54:44 AM PDT

If Costco is truly the ONLY rebate you've gotten, then you must be doing something wrong. Rebates may be bad, and there may be widespread problems, and Costco may be great, but most rebates DO pay.

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Amazon experirence (and suggestion)[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 12:05:42 PM PDT

Amazon often has great rebate deals (just last week they had 26 programs you could get free), I have gotten hundreds of dollars worth of software for free from them, and while Rebatestatus (aka CPG) does mess up their rebate processing from time to time, Amazon's CSRs will take care of problems you may have. Now what I would like to see Amazon do (and maybe putting it out here will encourage people to suggest it en masse) is to go to an online rebate submission system a la the Costco system that everyone loves. Costco and Amazon are both using CPG, so we know that it can be done. With Costco, you have to enter the transaction information on a website and then when they get the receipt information (within a few days) they process it and you get your check about 2 weeks later. Amazon is very good about paying promptly, but there is much too high an error rate in entering the stuff you mail in. Oh, and Amazon typically lets you get rebates on up to 3 of a given item, and only requires you to send a photocopy of the UPC, so it's not like they would need any hardcopy at all. The problem is that their submission rate would likely soar, and it would end up costing them money because of the extra rebates that people would file for, which is the reason they would not go electronic. But Costco (and Sam's Club) are electronic, and they manage to work out ok. Of course, they limit you to one rebate per item per member, so they can restrict it much better than Amazon would be able to. Oh, and the best of all rebates is Rite Aid's monthly program. You enter the receipt info online, at the end of the month you submit it, and 3 weeks later you have your check.

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I vote for Laplink[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by pep on Tue Aug 19, 2003 at 02:58:19 PM PDT

I purchased Laplink Gold from CompUSA and was offered a $150 rebate from Laplink. I filed all the necessary documentation and waited. It never came. I called Laplink and they didn't even answer their phones. I started dialing random extensions and finally got through to someone who told me the person handling the rebates was out sick. Apparently the employees were told not to answer their extensions, because I was unable to get through to them again, until weeks later, when I got the same person who I spoke with initially. Now the story was that the person never came back, but someone new was starting. Yeah, right! Laplink then filed for bankruptcy and was supposedly being sold off to another company who would honor the rebate. It has now been about 10 months and NO REBATE. BTW, I spoke with CompUSA who promised to look into it. Did you hear anything from them, because I certainly didn't.

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Laplink Rebate[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 25, 2003 at 11:24:28 AM PDT

I was in the same boat with this $150 rebate ($70 Upgrade rebate & $80 CompUSA/Laplink rebate) that I sent in back in November 2002. I went thru the same thing with Laplink....calling (was able to determine the extensions to almost everyone in the office, but always got voicemail!) and online inquiring, but only once actually talked to someone. Vicky, who was in Accounting, told me, in February 2003, that they were behind in the rebates checks since the person doing that "left the company due to illness". This was before the declared bankruptcy a month later.....quite clueless for an accounting dept. person. However, I contacted CompUSA in May 2003, they acknowledged the problem, gave me a Case# and promised to follow up on it. By late July, I had a $150 gift card in my hand! This was not the longest it took to collect a rebate (10 months is the record!), but it was the most valuable one I've had for some time. I was not going to let CompUSA get away with an advertised offer that they were not going to make good. Perseverance is the rule when it comes to rebates!

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Rebate Scam[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#33)
by VTSkier on Sun Aug 31, 2003 at 06:57:16 PM PDT

I had a bad experience with laplink too. Tokk over 6 months to get my rebate, but I did get it. I had two rebates with Compusa (wheresmyrebate.com) that took over a year and several phone calls. I had two or three others I never got, wroth about $100. I also waitred nearly a year for 2 symantec rebates (one from them and one from rebatestatus.com) and for a USR router rebate (also rebatestatus.com)

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Laplink Fraudulent Rebates[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#49)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 06:16:13 AM PDT

The same BS with Laplink is not just them. I had bought Laplink in August of 2002 from Office Depot and I Still Have Not gotten my rebates

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RebatesHQ. Post Mark Scam[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by Anonymous User on Wed Aug 20, 2003 at 08:41:47 AM PDT

Play rebates all the time. In the last six weeks, have had RebatesHQ send a post card TWICE - once for a Fellow's (OfficeMax) rebate and once for a Maxtor (Staples?) $80 rebate. Both times, they sent that the post mark was past the allowable date. Both times, the post card arrived BEFORE THE CUTOFF. Clearly, they are just trying to steal money from customers. Of course, later on they'll just wait an additional six weeks before sending the post card, and you won't be able to fight with them... they'll blame the post office. I won't do any rebates that use RebatesHQ again.

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OfficeMax "Easier Rebates" 14 wks late[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 21, 2003 at 08:56:40 AM PDT

I just got the following from OfficeMax in response to a complaint I filed about a rebate (for all of $3!) sitting unpaid at their rebate center for 3 months (after being received and processed, no less). Here is their response. I suggest avoiding any OfficeMax rebates which go to this "Easier" Rebates center. I had been told that complaining could get the rebates expedited but that was not offered. And I can't believe he was able to say this with a straight face. And the worst part is, I have another $40 waiting that I sent in a couple of months later than this one, for memory which didn't even end of working with my picky motherboard.
I do apologize. We have just been informed that the EZ rebate center is about 14 weeks behind in processing their rebates. The rebate center is asking that you please continue to track the rebate on www.easierebate.com. When you see that the rebate has been received please allow 8-12 weeks after that date to receive the rebate. Thank you for choosing officemax.com.


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Vote for Adobe[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#28)
by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 25, 2003 at 08:40:46 AM PDT

I purchased Adobe PhotoElements which came with a $30 rebate from Adobe. I followed the instructions and mailed what they requested. After waiting the 12 weeks plus some extra I called to find out the status of my check. After several people (all of which were very nice) I was politely informed that the rebate outsourcer had no record of my rebate mailing. I then figured okay, I have photocopies of what was mailed, so I asked Adobe how to resend. Their polite answer was that I was out of luck, only rebates submitted on original certificates would be honored. I tried escalating to several managers but received the same song. So the UPSP and their outsourcer can make an honest mistake and lose something. But I as a consumer have no recourse. Besides, what precludes Adobe from routing these rebates to the dumpster to save a little cash and just tell the consumer "sorry, no record of your rebate". Something is dreadfully wrong with this!!!

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Complain to Authorities[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#30)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 28, 2003 at 08:02:46 PM PDT

Write to your state attorney general. File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. Since the rebate goes by mail try the Postal Inspection Service (part of the Post Office). Will any of them succeed? I don't know. (Some State AGs are very activist - they want to be re-elected.) But it only will cost a couple of stamps. CC the president of Adobe (you can find the name and HQ address on the website, particularly if they post the annual report, and Adobe, of all companies, should!). I've had some recent success getting an error fixed by my bank - all the normal channels said there was nothing they could do to fix the past, after a letter to the president, it was (somewhat to my surprise) fixed efficiently and exactly as requested. And they are a lot bigger than Adobe. It certainly can't be changed if you don't tell the people in charge. Be polite, busnesslike, and to the point. Just writing the letter makes me feel better. Good Luck.

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ZoneLabs Rebate Game[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#34)
by Anonymous User on Tue Sep 02, 2003 at 12:48:32 PM PDT

ZoneLabs business model brought me along to where they wanted me. First was the free version of ZoneAlarm; next they got me to upgrade to the "Plus" version. This year I went for the "Pro" version, in part due to a rebate promotion. But that's where it all fell apart. Where's-My-Rebate refused to honor my request. They said I'd purchased the software download on 12/31/1967, outside of the valid period. No amount of phone calls back east could convince them otherwise. So I contacted Customer Support at ZL. They were unable to help because they've vested control of THEIR rebate program totally to Where's-My-Rebate, who have the final say. Well, I had the final say. I returned my ZA Pro for a refund, and took my firewall business to Symantec.

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The rebate game[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#35)
by vesta44 on Wed Sep 03, 2003 at 06:29:01 PM PDT

I work for a rebate processing company, and I've seen more than my share of refused rebates (I get to look at the ones the checkers have said "no go" on, and make sure they're right). Most of the rebates we handle are fairly simple to comply with, if you can read and follow directions. How hard is it to fill out the form (usually only a name and address is required), enclose your dated receipt (how many of those have I seen that the consumer cut the date off?), and the upc barcode? Now, in this day and age, I'm sure most of us know what a upc bar code looks like, but I'll be darned if people will send it in. Most of them seem to think that the rebate form is all they need. They also think that they are sending the rebate to whatever company made whatever product they bought. WRONG! Most rebates don't go to the company, they go to a processing center where we look for rebate forms, upc's, and cash register receipts (or packing slips, or whatever proves you paid for the item). I will admit that some of the order forms, especially those for cell phones, have print so small you need a magnifying glass to read it to see what the requirements are, but all in all, it's not that difficult to qualify for a rebate. In a nutshell, my advice is to READ the rebate form, get ALL the requirements together, and don't throw anything away. Keep copies of everything. Most of what you will need is on the box of the product you bought, whether it be a computer, cell phone, hard drive, whatever. Most of the serial numbers and model numbers are on labels on the box, and to be on the safe side, send the whole label, not a portion of it. You can keep copies of it for your records, but unless the rebate form specifically says you can send a copy, you're safer sending the original. And the company I work for tells us that if the consumer sends a letter stating that they have talked to someone in our rebate center, and that person told them that they would get the rebate, we are to qualify them for the rebate. I have often thought of writing a book to help consumers qualify for rebates, but if they can't read and follow the directions on a simple form, what are the chances they'll do any better reading and following the directions in a book? I'm sorry, but after some of the things I've seen, I don't have a lot of faith in the 10% of consumers who don't get their rebates from us. That's an approximate number, but from my experience, it's only about 10% of all consumers who send rebates that don't qualify for them the first time around.

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Filthy Rotten Thieves[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#48)
by Anonymous User on Wed Oct 08, 2003 at 12:09:21 PM PDT

These rebate companies are just filthy thieves. They know it's not worth it for most individuals to spend the $40 for even the most simple suits and then waste the day in court fighting a team of 50 attorneys trying to get their $30 rebate back. What does that leave us with? No accountability. That's the green light to screw over anyone they like. They keep the originals and leave us with almost nothing to work with even if we did decide to go to court. I'd love to see some class action develope and watch with glee as the millions of people who were screwed over jumped on the band wagon. If you work for one of these companies and are frustrated then I'm glad. You're in a filthy business are paying the price for such a disgraceful career. I don't know how you can look in the mirror.

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Positive rebate comment[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#36)
by jsjohnson1 on Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 04:22:33 PM PDT

I have been refused my share of rebates for the stupidest reasons. However, I would just like to say the Home Depot honored a rebate that I had sent in after expiration. I didn't expect to receive one but I sent it anyway. There's no way of knowing if it was just one that slipped by but I certainly did appreciate the "money in my mailbox". Jeff Johnson
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I nominate DELL ( I wonder why no one else has ? )[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#37)
by marcelol on Mon Sep 15, 2003 at 12:44:09 PM PDT

I nominate DELL for the "biggest rebate scammer in the US of A" award. So you go to their website to buy a computer, and you put in all your personal information, your credit card, etc..etc...just like amazon..but...they offer these MONSTER rebates...which never come....

They make you print out a rebate form from their website ( which itself isn't easy to locate ). Send that in with the service tag information that came with the unit....for crying out loud..don