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No Indemnity From EULAs

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 09:37:46 AM PDT
There's been a lot of talk in recent weeks about indemnification, with various pundits saying that the SCO case demonstrates how lack of indemnity protection is a big failing of Linux. This is peculiar thinking for several reasons, not the least of which is the fact that the default mode for commercial software developers is to offer no indemnification whatsoever.


An indemnity provision protects the customer if a third party claims that the software infringes its intellectual property rights. This usually takes the form of a warranty of non-infringement or "quiet enjoyment" in which the licensor agrees to indemnify the licensee against legal costs and/or damages.

Look in any software license agreement and you are almost sure to find a disclaimer of all such warranties and a provision excluding all damages you can collect from the licensor if the software is found to be infringing. For example, Microsoft's standard EULA says that "there is no warranty or condition of title, quiet enjoyment, quite possession, correspondence to description or non-infringement with regard to the software."

In other words, the commercial software company owes you nothing even if it turns out they stole the software from somebody else, and even if that somebody else sues you. And while refusing to protect you from the risks of their possible infringement, many software license agreements require you to indemnify them against certain risks. A term to be found in some Microsoft EULAs, for example, says you must agree to "indemnify, hold harmless, and defend Microsoft from and against any claims or lawsuits, including attorney's fees, that arise or result from the use or distribution of any Modified Software..."

Of course, similar language is to be found in most sneakwrap agreements, but I'm picking on Microsoft because it has suddenly begun touting minor changes to the indemnification provisions in its Select and Enterprise volume licensing agreements. It's not clear the changes will make all that big a difference in how such contracts are likely be interpreted by a court, but what is clear is why Microsoft is trumpeting the change. Those in Redmond really do view Linux as a serious threat, and in light of the SCO case they've seized upon the indemnification issue as one they can use against it. Like the SCO case itself, this is more of an anti-Linux PR tactic than a real legal move.

That's not to say indemnification isn't important. A warranty of non-infringement and indemnity for any legal costs is one of the first things most IS professionals can and should ask for when negotiating a software contract. But it is something you have to bargain for, and thus a negotiating chip for the vendor. And when the terms aren't negotiable, the default is no indemnification. The legal risk is all on you.

And that risk is growing in the commercial software world, because intellectual property lawsuits are everywhere. Microsoft, for example, faces a patent lawsuit from a company called InterTrust claiming that almost all Microsoft products infringe its digital rights management patents. Now, I happen to believe all software patents (as opposed to copyrights) are bogus, so I'm not rooting against Redmond in this case. But since Microsoft has managed to get so many analysts and journalists to ruminate on the worst case scenarios involving indemnification in the SCO case, let's consider the worst case scenarios here too. What if InterTrust wins? And what if they, like SCO is threatening to do with Linux, then decide to sue all Windows users for infringement? Will Microsoft indemnify us all against that risk? If you have any doubt, see the EULA language above.

The sad fact is that the commercial software world is increasingly focused on building and aggressively defending intellectual property fences. Whatever happens in the SCO case, it's not going to change the fact that the free software approach is the only way for developers and customers alike to completely escape from having to worry about things like warranties of non-infringement. Indemnification is a big problem, but it's one that ultimately belongs completely to the commercial software vendors.

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by oomplah on Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 12:19:19 PM PDT

This makes me laugh.. Society crossed a new line when Intellectual Property lawsuits turned into a line item in a company's profit sheet. But that of course is not the point of this.

What befuddles me, is that if a software company infringed in some other's code, or even someone in the open source community decides to do such... Suddenly how does the un-suspecting "User" get infected with this.

Imagine how far this could go.

Hell, the RIAA is threatening to sue end users for using Kazza.
Have all these people gone mad?

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EULA - Free Software[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 12:20:44 PM PDT

You mention in your article that "Whatever happens in the SCO case, it's not going to change the fact that the free software approach is the only way for developers and customers alike to completely escape from having to worry about things like warranties of non-infringement." What a second. Doesn't Linux fall in this category and is facing problems from SCO on this very topic? Am I missing something?

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Re: EULA - Free Software[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Ed Foster on Fri Aug 01, 2003 at 10:33:44 AM PDT

First off, of course, SCO's threat to sue Linux users has virtually no credibility. SCO would have to sue them for infringing behavior that SCO itself and its Linux users (who they've said they won't sue) also committed in distributing the supposedly purloined code. I'd love to see SCO try to argue that in court, but it's not going to happen.

The bigger picture though is that the GNU license and the free software model mean that, if there were any specific findings of infringement, they would quickly be fixed and everyone could move on. SCO's reluctance to provide any specifics is just all the more reason to suspect their motives.



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by Anonymous User on Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 07:15:24 PM PDT

I have been purchasing mainframe software for many years. I don't think I've ever seen a mainframe software contract that did NOT have an indemnification clause. How did something that is standard for mainframe software come to be almost unheard of in contracts for PC or server software? Where were the lawyers for the large companies that were purchasing this software? The company lawyers who review the mainframe software contracts that I negotiate would never let us sign one without an indemnification clause.

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by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 04, 2003 at 08:02:04 PM PDT

it's generally been the case that companies that can afford to buy mainframes can afford all the lawyers.  

PC servers & networks are inexpensive & available to the masses, i.e. those who cannot afford lawyers.  The big companies still get the indemnification clauses.  For the rest of us, agreements are completely one-sided in favor of the company with the deeper pockets, the software vendor.

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just a quick example[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Mon Aug 04, 2003 at 08:10:06 PM PDT

i've worked in IT for businesses of varying sizes. The ONLY one that got indemnification clauses on everything was a large Fortune company. We got them even on purchases of 1 or 2 licenses of $50 software -- the vendors saw even that small sale as opening the door to a possible bigger one down the road & were willing to talk. I got treated differently when I called a vendor & said I was calling from "companyX" (an extremely well-known name). It was amazing what throwing around their name would get us. CompanyX also screwed vendors by not paying for 90 days, even with net 30 terms. Yes, because they could & they knew vendors wouldn't complain, lest they risk their listing as a "preferred vendor." the other places? We didn't have enough purchasing power to have any leverage. Don't like it? go somewhere else.

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Free is not the answer - good negotiating is[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by vmj on Tue Aug 05, 2003 at 11:50:25 AM PDT

I talk to a lot of folks who negotiate software licenses for large companies and I don't know of any large company that doesn't include a a strong infringement indemnification in the contract...as another poster stated, folks did this in the mainframe days and they continue to do this. I'm not against open source but just because something's free doesn't mean there can't be an infringement claim against it...no easy answers but the open source movement needs to figure out a way to address this issue....

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Oh, I got plenty of nothin' ...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Sat Aug 09, 2003 at 09:30:43 PM PDT

Where will the free software developers get the money to back up an indemnification clause?

When customers pay little or nothing for software, there can be no reasonable expectation that a legal shield has been erected around their actions. When they drop big bucks into it, they have every reason to believe that they are sheltered from harm.

If anything, FOSS comes closer to meeting realistic expectations than the company that sells single user licenses for $300.

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by msa6el on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:19:19 PM PDT

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