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Reader Voices: McAfee Marketing

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Wed Jul 30, 2003 at 11:17:30 AM PDT

In a recent blog item, I related one reader's complaint about a McAfee security "test" utility that rated system security solely on the basis of whether it was using McAfee products or not. Only a few readers defended this as a legitimate marketing practice.

"If you are a novice user, then this is an excellent marketing tool that attempts to make users more aware of their computer, their environment, and the risks that face today's modern PC sitting on an increasingly-interconnected world," wrote one reader. "Smarter and more discerning users will know better."


Most readers I heard from, however, felt this was all too typical of marketing practices that make them reluctant to use Network Associates at all. "I still get spammed by McAfee several times a week," said one reader. "They show themselves to be a very low level operator by marketing this way. Some of this was determined to be from third party vendors but McAfee will never get a cent of my IT budget."

"Let's face it -- McAfee is the leader in abusive marketing practices," wrote another reader who recalled when a client had purchased a site for McAfee online virus protection. "Three months before the one-year license came up for renewal ... I received an angry call informing me that every PC had started getting pop-ups requesting a credit card number to renew subscriptions on individual PCs. Further investigation revealed that on top of this, users were getting marketing pop-ups for other McAfee products while their virus signatures were being updated. Needless to say, McAfee got pulled off of every PC and any new PC that is purchased that has McAfee installed has it removed before it is put into service. I will never recommend or use their products again."

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by Anonymous User on Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 10:51:46 AM PDT

I guess I may be one of the few users out there that hasn't had any of these troubles with McAfee. I have used McAfee for years and have never had any of the Spamming troubles or pop-up windows. I have had these problems with Symantec, however. That is why I went to McAfee in the first place. I think that I was one of the original Norton cutomers, before Symantec bought them out. It was after Symantec that things started downhill. I will say this, If I start having the same trouble with McAfee that I had with Symantec, I will have no qualms about finding another vendor.

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McAfee goes way back with this type of behavior[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by RocDoc on Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 08:08:54 PM PDT

For many years I was a computer security analyst for a government contractor. One of my duties was to evaluate the different AV software available for use in protecting PC assets.

It became quite the joke in the government security arena (and in much of the knowledgeable commercial sector) that McAfee was promoting their AV software as the most aggressive and able to catch the most viruses when our tests indicated otherwise.

We discovered in our 1991-1993 time frame testing that McAfee's claims of superior quality was made through their abusive marketing tactics. McAfee claimed the highest rate of detection and repair, using Patricia Hoffman's VSUM Virus Database as their yardstick. Our testing indicated that they made their claims "just this side of legal" because of the McAfee AV program's high rate of false positives, their questionable heuristic search similarities issues, and what one of my colleagues believed may have been a symbiotic relationship between Patricia Hoffman and John McAfee. No change in over a dozen years for this company's abusive marketing tactics.

If you're interested in one example of John McAfee's style of marketing tactics, check out this web page with a timeline of the 1992 Michelangelo virus scare: http://vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=288&page=4 and watch how marketing hype is deflated.

Just a note in passing - our testing through the years 1991 through 1999 (my last year in this arena) indicated that the best overall AV program available was Fridrik Skulason's Protection (F-PROT), known also by many of his partners (Datafellows, F-SECURE) product releases and known today as Frisk International's F-PROT. (If you really want to discover an interesting story, ask Fridrik how he got into the AV software biz - its a great read!)

We also discovered that the best mitigation of virus risk was to use no less than two AV packages - one for daily "auto-protect" protection, followed with monthly scans by the second AV package.

As a consultant today, I personally use Norton AV as my "auto-protect" protection and I follow it up with monthly scans using F-Prot. I quit using McAfee products because of my experience with their poor quality installation and operation issues (meaning I've had to reload many a Windows machine because something was hosed by the McAfee product). Like many others, when I accept a customer using McAfee products, I highly recommend that those products be removed in favor of a competing item in order to minimize stability issues.

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