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The Gripelog Hall of Shame

By Ed Foster, Section Columns
Posted on Thu May 08, 2003 at 11:31:48 AM PDT
This week in my inaugural GripeLog column I introduce the GripeLog Hall of Shame – a list of the vendors that readers complain about most frequently and most vociferously. To see who made the list, and what the most common complaints about them are, read the full story.


Thursday, May 8, 2003 By Ed Foster
THE HALL OF SHAME

It's a bit ironic, but also really rather fortunate, that I begin this column just a few months after my tenth anniversary of writing the Gripe Line column for InfoWorld. I say that because the many responses I had from readers to my anniversary column offered a great deal of enlightenment on just what my readers really value in my musings. So I have much better guidance as to where we should head now than I would otherwise have had.

First and foremost, I learned my readers believe fervently in the power of the negative. Leave it to someone else to say nice things about vendors, they said, just give us the unadulterated gripes. “To me the most important service you offer is warning potential customers of pitfalls, traps, inconsistencies, unfairness and just plain wrongs,” said one reader. “It's an important service and, if possible, I'd prefer that you maintain this focus.”

Many readers suggested ways I might expand the information I provide. “The column gives one point on a curve but doesn't allow one to see what has gone before or the trend in which things are going,” one reader commented. “The ability to find follow-up information is also limited. A web area with frequent updates would provide a far better picture on far more companies, products, services, etc. Your column serves to keep us notified of current ‘hot spots’ but we also need the history and trends to make fully informed decisions.”

Well, fortunately, we now have the opportunity to do just that. The Gripe Line was always something of a blunt instrument, but the weblog format gives the GripeLog considerably more flexibility. It will take time to develop all the things I’d like to do, but one thing I can do right away is provide a baseline summary of the most griped-about vendors.

So without further ado, this week I inaugurate the GripeLog Hall of Shame – a list of the vendors that readers complain about most frequently and most vociferously. Tempting though it was to call it a “Bottom Ten” list, I’ve decided not to have a fixed number of companies in the Hall of Shame. To get on the list and stay on it, the vendor has to generate a consistent stream of gripes. Right now I see eight vendors who meet that criteria, but that number will go up or down as needed. The comments briefly describe the most common gripes about each vendor, and the number in parentheses is where the company would have placed had I done this list about six months ago. In order of bad to worst, readers complain loudest about these vendors:

#8. (5) Network Associates (McAfee) Early obsolescence of anti-virus engines; forced support charges, software download problems

#7. (9) Oracle Expensive but spotty support; hidden charges; indifferent and even arrogant sales staff

#6. (6) Symantec (Norton) Virus updates costs; crippled product versions, unrestrained selling of Norton products by spammers

#5. (4) HP (HP/Compaq computers, printers) Bad OS recovery system; parts problems; printer driver updates

#4. (7) Dell Notebook computer problems and poor support; website sales bugs

#3. (3) Microsoft Security bugs, subjugation of volume licensing customers, overreaching EULA terms

#2. (1) VeriSign (Network Solutions) Tricky tactics denying domain transfers, technical incompetence, squatting on expired domains

#1. (2) Intuit Lack of free support, QuickBooks tax service fees, TurboTax product activation

One obvious surprise is who didn’t make the list: Gateway. Six months ago I would have had them in eighth place, but I’ve heard very little about them recently. It will be interesting to see if Gateway can stay off the list if and when the PC sales pick up. The general sales doldrums hasn’t kept Dell from rapidly sinking to the lower depths, however. If one company deserves to be marked “with a bullet” – or maybe in this case “with a heavy stone” – right now it would be Dell.

The GripeLog Hall of Shame will now be a fixture on my website, and I will update it as needed. Historically I wouldn’t expect there to be an awful lot of change from month to month, so I might update it only quarterly. But if reader input warrants it, I’ll update it more often.

It’s important to understand that the Hall of Shame is not just based on a straight tabulation of votes. Think of it as a pain index – the severity of the problems being reported is as important a factor as the sheer number of people complaining. And I’m still going to have to weigh the vendor’s customer base, the types of markets it’s in, and the historic patterns of gripes I’ve seen.

What that means is this isn’t going to be an unpopularity contest. (I think we all know who’d “win” that anyway). My weblog engine would make it easy to turn this into a poll where you click on the vendor you don’t like, but that’s not the idea. I still need to know the specifics of why you think a certain vendor deserves to be on the list. In other words, you still need to gripe. You can use the “gripe” web form on my site or email me at gripe@gripe2ed.com Let’s get started.

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Intuit Bad Service[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 09, 2003 at 04:13:58 PM PDT

Greetings and Salutations:

(Sorry, let me try again with a little better formatting)

Let me add to the Inuit Bad Service gripes.  First off (as anybody who uses the Quick Books Pro software knows) if you don't pay for the "payroll updates" your software will stop working.  Doesn't matter that the tax tables have not changed from the year before, the software will just stop until you get the payroll update.

So you get on the payroll update plan (because you have to).  You get a payroll update and it costs $199.

An update disk arrives and you get a bill for $199.  Lo and behold the very *next* month you get *another* bill for $199.

Conversation with Customer Service goes as follows:

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CS Rep: Hmmm ... It looks like our computer automatically generated that billing

Customer: How can that happen when I did not authorize that transaction?

CS Rep: Well, we don't need authorization to bill a credit card

Customer: I find that alarming

CS Rep: Well, it's not a big deal.  I'll forward this to the billing department and they'll research it, and if there has been an error we will refund the money.
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Bottom line, you better check your "automatic billing" from Intuit.  What a way to up Intuits "bottom line".

Ken


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Intuit payroll[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 13, 2003 at 01:35:58 PM PDT

They don't really cut off your payroll, the program just stops calculating taxes. I do a tiny payroll and am not going to pay the $199 a year. No way, never. With the subscription turned off, the program nags me every month, but I shove on. Calculate the deductions myself and key them in to the check stub window. The program prints the check, prints the stub and every accumulates year to date numbers. Oh yes, there's a web site, Payroll-taxes.com, that is intended to help folks check the employers calculations, which I use to do the calculations!

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#107)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:57:56 PM PDT

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Intuit payroll[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 13, 2003 at 01:37:42 PM PDT

They don't really cut off your payroll, the program just stops calculating taxes.

I do a tiny payroll and am not going to pay the $199 a year. No way, never.

With the subscription turned off, the program nags me every month, but I shove on. Calculate the deductions myself and key them in to the check stub window. The program prints the check, prints the stub and every accumulates year to date numbers.

Oh yes, there's a web site, Payroll-taxes.com, that is intended to help folks check the employers calculations, which I use to do the calculations!

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Quickbooks payroll shutoff[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous User on Mon May 26, 2003 at 11:11:42 AM PDT

The issue is if you don't pay the annual 'tax subscription' to Intuit the payroll tax calculation feature of Quickbooks shuts off.  Yes I can and do perform the calculation manually.  But why am I, and millions of other users, held hostage for $199 per year to keep licensed software fully functional?  

Personally missing the a year or two of tax table updates would not effect me.

I have thought about other options for accounting systems.  But the problem is the many years of history I have in my Quickbooks data.

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intuit, never responds[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jun 04, 2003 at 06:51:06 PM PDT

re: intuit, and double-billing of the credit card - Suggestion - file a disupte with VISA or MASTER CARD. This triggers an inquiry, from Visa, to the offending biller (i.e., intuit), to justify the charge, after you provide info that the charge is in error. Second, intuit has NO SALES mechanism to provide pre-sales info. I have Quickbooks Pro 99. I won't upgrade until Intuit answers my questions as to whether info on several interresting features is answered. to date, even with letters to investor relations, there is no reply from them.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#105)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:57:46 PM PDT

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class action?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#35)
by Anonymous User on Mon May 24, 2004 at 12:36:09 PM PDT

I was just informed that I cannot get my payroll updates unless I upgrade QB Pro 2002 to a newer version??? Has this happened to anyone else? The payroll updates won't work on the 2002 version. Geez, it's not that old. Intuit double billed me too, and I had to go through my bankcard agent to get the amount removed. Intuit never responded. Do I smell a class action here?

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#119)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 08:41:46 PM PDT

出会い出会い系サイト出会い喫茶出会い掲示板ナンパ出会いカフェ人妻出会い無 009;系サイト優良出会い系攻略 完全無料。アダルトビデオアダルト動画アダルトアニメアダルト画像アダル 488;サイト無料DVDアダルト風俗サンプル無料風俗優良アダルトサイト比較海 806;。人妻画像人妻パラダイス知合い人妻援護会人妻コレクション風 439;告白。熟女画像東京熟女掲示板動画熟女ビデオおまんこオナニーエロ画像エロフラッシュアニメ 456;ロ動画エロゲームエロ漫画無料エロサイト。エッチ画像エッチ動画エッチ小説写真エッチ 450;ニメエッチ0930。セックスアナルセックス画像セックス動画セックスフレンドスワッピングSEX写真セックスボランティセ 483;クス体位東京セックス仕方 SEX。おっぱい画像おっぱい村長おっぱい楽園掲示板お 387;ぱい命おっぱいゲーム。巨乳動画巨乳画像アイドル巨乳 522;示板風俗。セフレ募集セフレ掲示板セフレ画像掲示板セフレの作り方出会い無料素人セフレ。童貞狩りエロ漫画童貞狩り童貞喪失童貞オークション素人童貞逆援不倫パートナー不倫出会い人妻不倫不倫を楽しみたい方にはお薦め 154;妻画像など満載出会いサイトを楽しむならココ無料出会いで一緒に遊ぼう出会いはLOVEアゲインで決まり

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#102)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:33:37 PM PDT

出会い出会い系サイト出会い喫茶出会い掲示板ナンパ出会いカフェ人妻出会い無 009;系サイト優良出会い系攻略 完全無料。アダルトビデオアダルト動画アダルトアニメアダルト画像アダル 488;サイト無料DVDアダルト風俗サンプル無料風俗優良アダルトサイト比較海 806;。人妻画像人妻パラダイス知合い人妻援護会人妻コレクション風 439;告白。熟女画像東京熟女掲示板動画熟女ビデオおまんこオナニーエロ画像エロフラッシュアニメ 456;ロ動画エロゲームエロ漫画無料エロサイト。エッチ画像エッチ動画エッチ小説写真エッチ 450;ニメエッチ0930。セックスアナルセックス画像セックス動画セックスフレンドスワッピングSEX写真セックスボランティセ 483;クス体位東京セックス仕方 SEX。おっぱい画像おっぱい村長おっぱい楽園掲示板お 387;ぱい命おっぱいゲーム。巨乳動画巨乳画像アイドル巨乳 522;示板風俗。セフレ募集セフレ掲示板セフレ画像掲示板セフレの作り方出会い無料素人セフレ。童貞狩りエロ漫画童貞狩り童貞喪失童貞オークション素人童貞逆援不倫パートナー不倫出会い人妻不倫不倫を楽しみたい方にはお薦め 154;妻画像など満載出会いサイトを楽しむならココ無料出会いで一緒に遊ぼう出会いはLOVEアゲインで決まり

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The Hall of Shame[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 13, 2003 at 12:46:01 PM PDT

Do you think the reason that Dell is on the Hall of Shame list for support just might have something to do with the fact that they, along with many other fortune 500 companies, are out sourcing the support services? Out sourcing in of itself is not always a bad thing but outsourcing technical support to India shows in the results that you usually get what you pay for. In the effort to save money by outsourcing it's Support to India, Dell is not doing itself any favors toward increasing sales....

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Same thought[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 13, 2003 at 01:05:06 PM PDT

Every call I have made to off shore support has at the very least resulted in a language issue. To some extent this can't be helped but I also find lack of knowledge. This isn't just a Dell problem. They must be taking sales and the web site off shore too as they are as bad as the support. I used to be impressed. Maybe it's time to give IBM a try.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#110)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:58:16 PM PDT

出会い出会い系サイト出会い喫茶出会い掲示板ナンパ出会いカフェ人妻出会い無 009;系サイト優良出会い系攻略 完全無料。アダルトビデオアダルト動画アダルトアニメアダルト画像アダル 488;サイト無料DVDアダルト風俗サンプル無料風俗優良アダルトサイト比較海 806;。人妻画像人妻パラダイス知合い人妻援護会人妻コレクション風 439;告白。熟女画像東京熟女掲示板動画熟女ビデオおまんこオナニーエロ画像エロフラッシュアニメ 456;ロ動画エロゲームエロ漫画無料エロサイト。エッチ画像エッチ動画エッチ小説写真エッチ 450;ニメエッチ0930。セックスアナルセックス画像セックス動画セックスフレンドスワッピングSEX写真セックスボランティセ 483;クス体位東京セックス仕方 SEX。おっぱい画像おっぱい村長おっぱい楽園掲示板お 387;ぱい命おっぱいゲーム。巨乳動画巨乳画像アイドル巨乳 522;示板風俗。セフレ募集セフレ掲示板セフレ画像掲示板セフレの作り方出会い無料素人セフレ。童貞狩りエロ漫画童貞狩り童貞喪失童貞オークション素人童貞逆援不倫パートナー不倫出会い人妻不倫不倫を楽しみたい方にはお薦め 154;妻画像など満載出会いサイトを楽しむならココ無料出会いで一緒に遊ぼう出会いはLOVEアゲインで決まり

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Dell Heartburn....[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Thu May 15, 2003 at 01:40:33 PM PDT

I had a problem with a Dell machine. During an OS SP installation there was a problem in that the IDE driver was corrupted. I called their support (the machine was still in warranty). I told the "tech" exactly the problem and that I needed x.sys driver. Can they email it to me etc... I was told that I had to do a fresh installation of the whole OS. Yeah Right. I asked if he understood the ramifications of doing so (rebuilding the entire applications database etc). Answer, reinstall the whole OS. I tried to move it up the support ladder and he hung up on me. I did get the driver from a friend, solved the problem and went on my way. Now, about that Dell extended service contract....

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Dell support[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 16, 2003 at 04:49:52 AM PDT

I agree with the comments about offshore support and its quality being subpar. One comment I hear is that it's scripted and damn difficult to get them to vary from it. BTW if you are ever hung up on, call back and Bitch. It does get results. The same is true of support at AOL. Having made many support calls for friends I have however developed a pretty good dot head accent according to those friends. Thankfully no urge for curry has struck me yet. <G> PS Ed please do keep up the good work. I too think InfoWorld erred by canceling your column.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#109)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:58:14 PM PDT

出会い出会い系サイト出会い喫茶出会い掲示板ナンパ出会いカフェ人妻出会い無 009;系サイト優良出会い系攻略 完全無料。アダルトビデオアダルト動画アダルトアニメアダルト画像アダル 488;サイト無料DVDアダルト風俗サンプル無料風俗優良アダルトサイト比較海 806;。人妻画像人妻パラダイス知合い人妻援護会人妻コレクション風 439;告白。熟女画像東京熟女掲示板動画熟女ビデオおまんこオナニーエロ画像エロフラッシュアニメ 456;ロ動画エロゲームエロ漫画無料エロサイト。エッチ画像エッチ動画エッチ小説写真エッチ 450;ニメエッチ0930。セックスアナルセックス画像セックス動画セックスフレンドスワッピングSEX写真セックスボランティセ 483;クス体位東京セックス仕方 SEX。おっぱい画像おっぱい村長おっぱい楽園掲示板お 387;ぱい命おっぱいゲーム。巨乳動画巨乳画像アイドル巨乳 522;示板風俗。セフレ募集セフレ掲示板セフレ画像掲示板セフレの作り方出会い無料素人セフレ。童貞狩りエロ漫画童貞狩り童貞喪失童貞オークション素人童貞逆援不倫パートナー不倫出会い人妻不倫不倫を楽しみたい方にはお薦め 154;妻画像など満載出会いサイトを楽しむならココ無料出会いで一緒に遊ぼう出会いはLOVEアゲインで決まり

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they already have the sale ...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Wed May 21, 2003 at 05:30:41 AM PDT

As a retail customer you are not likely to buy multiple PCs in a short period of time. When it comes to purchasing your next PC in 2,3, or 4 years -- they are banking on their low price to win your business. [Unless they aren;t looking past the next wall street reporting quarter] From their perspective, they have sold you a PC --with minimum margin. Providing support costs money. So, telling you to re-install the OS is quick (ergo cheap)

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Off-shore support[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by psyxme on Wed May 21, 2003 at 08:34:39 AM PDT

I spoke with someone who worked in Dell Support for a while and he said that the average support person only lasts about 3 months. With that level of turn-over, it is no wonder the only solution they can come up with is reinstall the OS. You get what you pay for - we buy and recommend Compaq now

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Out Sourcing Technical Support[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by Anonymous User on Fri Jun 20, 2003 at 01:25:27 PM PDT

I hope you all know that the current regime in the white house is working hard to out source 50% of the federal government. Can you imagine that. Imagine your questions to the IRS at tax time being answered by some foreigner reading a canned script in broken english. Imagine your social security payments being handled in Columbia, or Iraq or Afganistan or ??? Imagine the potential that that might pose for identity theft. Wonder how that will work when we find that much of the work gets shipped overseas? If you think the unemployment rate in the US is high now just wait. It will no doubt make the Dell offshore technical support sound like heaven! ps: I know Ed has been waging one hell of a war against the DMC and UCITA but those travisties won't hold a candle to this government out sourcing.

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Dell Non-Service[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Tue May 20, 2003 at 11:15:26 AM PDT

From start to finish, buying and supporting a Dell is generally a nightmare. The only reason they are so popular is that they are cheap. An earlier posting commented on Dell Support suggesting an OS reinstall to solve a simple issue. That phrase has become a joke in our office. Every time something goes wrong - a failed modem, a blown monitor, a CAT5 cable accidently cut in half - the standard line is "Reinstall the OS, Dude!!" But it is not a joke when that is the best support they can offer.

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Not Any Better at Server Support[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Sat May 24, 2003 at 08:55:05 PM PDT

For the last two years I've worked on an account installing and supporting Dell servers and have had extensive experience using the full range of Dell technical support (in part due the high failure rate of Dell systems and components). For the most part, Dell support for servers and storage systems is just as bad workstation and laptop support. They are at least smart enough to know they can't get away with "Reinstall the OS, Dude" for a server, but have a host of other standard excuses. For example, the Level 1 support won't escalate a problem unless ALL of your BIOS, firmware and Dell Open Manage drivers are at the absolute latest level. Our account uses a strict version control system, so I can't just update drivers without going through a lengthy change control process. Since Level 1 tech support is unable to solve anything but the simplest problems - the same ones I already checked before even calling - we had to "adapt, improvise and overcome" to actually get the service needed. Dell has three levels of support - the basic level where you have to fight through Level 1 support, a silver level where you can bypass Level 1, and a Gold Level where you get a dedicated engineer who follows the issue through resolution. From experience using all three levels over the year, Gold is really the absolute minimum level need to get adequate support. Of course, Gold Level support is a pricey option that adds to the real price of the server. Dell appears to have won a lot of contracts based on price, but to truly compare with firms like Compaq/HP or IBM you really need to add the cost of Dell Gold support to your price checks. Before my current account, I spent three years supporting Compaq servers and Gateway/IBM/Compaq workstations and laptops. I also have experience supporting IBM, HP (pre-merger) and Gateway servers. In most cases, IBM, Compaq, HP and Gateway have provided better support for their server products than desktop/laptop support but Dell is the first company I've had to deal with that had server support equivalent to consumer-level tech support. After a long session in "Dell Hell" trying to get support, we have a catch phrase to capture the experience - "Dude, you've been Delled".

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You've been Delled[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by puck1037 on Tue Jun 03, 2003 at 12:11:43 PM PDT

My company spent over $13.0M on servers for our stores and we've had nothing but problems. It was so bad, Dell gave us our own Tech team to deal with all the server problems. They are really the company from Hell.

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by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 07:10:55 PM PDT

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#104)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:52:58 PM PDT

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Dell the Company from (4 letters 1st one is H)[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jun 03, 2003 at 10:06:46 AM PDT

System is 13 days old. Have made over 40 phone calls and sent 14 emails. Nothing has happened as of today. I finally filed a complaint with the BBB in Texas. I am thinking of returning the system, getting my money back and going elsewhere. The catch is where do you go? Gateway? Anybody have any comments? Nobody cares or gives a hoot about service. Once they have your money, you are nothing to them.

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Delled[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 07:32:45 AM PDT

I think you've got a lemon - get your refund and turn your back on it. I made the mistake of letting myself be talked into buying 4 Dell laptops 2 years ago, despite my own reservations. Dell was the market darling then, you recall. Anyway, 2 years and several thousands of dollars later I have dumped the Dells for IBM Thinkpads. I purchased 3 TPs last fall, and just purchased 4 more. Just in case, I purchased the Thinkpad Protection plan, but I doubt very much that I'll need it. Those babies have been very good to us. Users are a mix of DFUs and technical meddlers, but those IBM's have been 100% reliable. The Rapid Restore utilitiy alone is worth the price.

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by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 06:58:37 PM PDT

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Why not Gateway?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
by Anonymous User on Tue Aug 05, 2003 at 03:14:38 PM PDT

We've had very good luck with Gateway servers, and the one time I had to call tech support, the issue (a BIOS update) was resolved promptly. I know that Gateway is not known as a place for buying servers, but a few of their server products have been written up favorably in InfoWorld. We've been very satisfied with their desktops as well. Give them a try - you may be pleasantly surprised!

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#117)
by maderikapapa on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 07:11:10 PM PDT

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