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The "Yes, You Can Spam" Act of 2003

By Ed Foster, Section The Gripelog
Posted on Mon Nov 24, 2003 at 12:23:56 AM PDT
I've been taking a look at the "CAN-SPAM" Act that Congress now appears set to pass, and it is nothing but trouble. It's clear that only the Direct Marketing Association, Microsoft, AOL and a handful of others had any input into the law, because it's carefully crafted to allow the big marketers free reign. And the loopholes it provides them will be more than big enough to provide aid and comfort for the smallest and sleaziest of spammers as well.


Not only does the Can-Spam Act take an opt-out approach, meaning that each spammer can e-mail you until you ask them to stop, but it allows the spammer to dictate what steps you must take to get off their list. The recipient must opt-out "in a manner specified in the message" that can include replying to an opt-out email address or "other Internet-based mechanism." The spammer can also force the recipient to opt-out via "a list or menu from which the recipient may choose the specific types of commercial electronic mail messages the recipient wants to receive or does not want to receive from the sender" just as along as opting out from all e-mail from that sender is one of the choices.

So in other words, each and every huckster who sends you an e-mail can legally require you to go to a page on their website and endure their pop-up ads while you look for the right opt-out option. Otherwise, they can keep sending their junk. And think what a wonderful opportunity this will provide virus purveyors who want to trick the gullible into running an executable. (Sure, that would be illegal under the Can-Spam Act, but it's already illegal under all sorts of laws with stiffer penalties, and the viruses just keep coming.) And that's not to mention the fact that those of who get a lot of spam could not possibly take the time to read each message for its opt-out instructions, even if we were foolish enough to want to use them.

Enforcement has been the weak spot of many anti-spam laws, but the Can-Spam Act makes a mockery of any possibility that violators will actually suffer. Any real enforcement is left up to the Federal Trade Commission almost exclusively, which has admitted it can only take on a fraction of the cases that current fraud and data protection laws would already allow it to prosecute. The FTC is also saddled with the requirement to report back to Congress on the feasibility of a do-not-spam list or bounty system, both of which you can bet the FTC will not want to touch.

State law enforcement agencies are given some token rights to enforce the new law, but at the price of having tougher state laws - like California's recent opt-in law - rudely preempted. ISPs are given even more limited rights to sue spammers for damages they suffer. And businesses that suffer damage from spam attacks have no recourse under the Can-Spam Act whatsoever. Of course, you can file a complaint with the FTC or other agencies, but with all the criminal attacks that are going unpunished even now, don't hold your breath waiting for help.

The Can-Spam Act really shows its true colors when talking about companies that hire others to spam for them. Only the FTC can enforce the law's provisions against a business that knowingly hires a spammer that will be using false or misleading information in their transmissions. States and ISPs must prove "actual knowledge" on the part of offenders to do anything more than slap them on the wrist. The law also ties itself into complicated knots defining and re-defining the word "procure" just to emphasize that ISPs aren't really allowed to sue the companies that hire spammers.

Another demonstration of who really called the shots on the Act is that it's even weaker than the weak opt-out state laws that require an "ADV" label on unsolicited commercial e-mail. The Can-Spam Act says spam must be identified as an advertisement, but it doesn't mandate how. In fact, it very specifically precludes the FTC from making any regulations in that regard. Obviously, those who are actually responsible for this law don't want to make it easy for any of us to filter out spam.

In fact, it's hard to escape the conclusion that those who are responsible for the Can-Spam Act only want to make sure that they have unfettered right to market via e-mail as they choose. Congress, in either its infinite stupidity or infinite cupidity, has quiet simply sold us down the river. If, as is expected, the Senate gives final approval and President Bush signs it into law, we may well be witnessing the end of Internet e-mail.

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Foxes Guarding Henhouse[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Tourette on Mon Nov 24, 2003 at 05:16:30 AM PDT

If these dim bulbs in the Gov'mint think an "opt out" plan is gonna work out then they must also still believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Yeah, right. The guys who use false headers, throw-away and fake return addresses, open proxies jumbled spelling and punctuation to slip through filters - not to mention "unsubscribe" links to harvest addresses, not remove them - are gonna play by the rules. What a bunch of f---ing idiots.

To more-or-less steal from California's Senator Debra Bowden, putting the Direct Marketing Association, Microsoft, AOL and said "handful of others" in charge of controlling spam is like putting telemarketers in charge of the Do Not Call list.

http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020415,39116094,00.htm


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Holidays[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 01:39:28 PM PDT

"Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy" Aren't they working at the DOJ?

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"Can Spam"[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#26)
by Anonymous User on Tue Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:07 PM PDT

The "Can Spam" Act is antithetically misnamed, to be sure. But what do you expect from an administration that has saddled us with such lying nomenclature as "The USA PATRIOT Act" (hardly about patriotism) and tax "relief" (yep, here are 400 federal dollars so that you can pay the 800 additional dollars the state and local community need to make up for lost services. If this is relief, I'll take the stress). Basically, more Bush-it. Please be courageous enough to post this and leave it up. The truth hurts, but it is the truth.

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All this does is just delays legislation w/teeth[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Mon Nov 24, 2003 at 02:21:20 PM PDT

As much as I hate spam, I'm not overly concerned... The only reason Congress is putting forth such legislation is because its own members have to deal with penis enlargement and Viagra messages in their own Inboxes. When this law goes into effect, these same members will continue to have the same problems along with a set of new ones that appear because of this law. In a year or two, they will be so fed up with the mess they created that they will put together a bill with some real teeth.

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they don't read email[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 01:52:22 PM PDT

now really, what makes you think our leaders actually read their email? They don't even read their own snail mail!

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except..[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 02:01:34 PM PDT

"The only reason Congress is putting forth such legislation is because its own members have to deal with penis enlargement and Viagra messages in their own Inboxes"

The problem is Congress is the ideal target audience for penis enlargement and Viagra messsages...

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What Congress really needs[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 02:29:08 PM PDT

We should give Congress a bunch of messages for spine-stiffeners; I don't think that the people who voted for this piece of #$*&!! could have a functioning backbone, do you?

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.gov addresses[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 02:37:38 PM PDT

What makes you so sure that members of the legislature get spammed? If I were a spammer I'd be certain to clean .gov addresses from the list -- and that goes double for "house.gov" and "senate.gov" addresses.

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I get 'em[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 03:54:00 PM PDT


At my .gov account.

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Heh. That's funny.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 02:39:01 PM PDT

You think Congress is pushing this through because they're annoyed by spam?

I wish I had rose colored glasses.

Congresscritters only get annoyed when they don't get enough lobbying money.

The rest of the people like me who run networks will continue doing what we have done: use technical means to fight spam. Law will never make this work right.

The real people who are losing out are those not technically savvy enough to fight spam on their own, and who live in rural places without an ISP that will try to protect them.

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Re: All this does is just delays legislation[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 03:36:54 PM PDT

"In a year or two, they will be so fed up with the mess they created that they will put together a bill with some real teeth." No, they won't. They will say "I passed a law about spam but the FTC hasn't used the tools we gave them" and go back to planning sound bites on whatever their latest hotbutton issue is. We have the best politicians money can buy. Unfortunately, We the people, just can't outbid the big boys.

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It has real teeth -- for the spammers[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Ed Foster on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 06:12:28 PM PDT

This bill legalizes spam. It means the spam message's "Murk" notice is no longer a lie. Proving a spammer is violating this law will be next to impossible, and the FTC isn't going to bother prosecuting small time violators anyway.

Think about what that means. Although the bill claims neutrality on this point, it almost certainly means ISPs will have to give up enforcing terms of usage that prohibit spamming by their customers. How can they deprive anyone of their email account for doing something that is now clearly legal? Instead, ISPs are much likely to compete in offering the most spam-friendly services. Many have been doing so anyway, and now they will have legal cover.

And I am really concerned about what this will ultimately do to the blacklists run by Spamhaus, Spamcop, etc. If the ISPs no longer prohibit spamming, enforcement of the blacklists will be much dicier. The spammers have always talked about suing them; as a result of this law, they might actually be able to do it.

Ed Foster



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Terms of use[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 07:04:58 AM PDT

Just because something is legaly permissable doesn't mean it can't be contractually prohibited.

Trade secrets, for one thing, couldn't exist otherwise.

One thing we can do is complain, create form letters , attach the offending spam and send them to the FTC, your congress critters, and the sender.  This can be at least partially automated.

The DMA doesn't publish its email address, but their industry news site (www.dmnews.com) does, so they could be added to the list.

If you only do it when you get spam, its free speech, not a mail bomb.

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Spam Me, Spam You.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 10:13:06 PM PDT

I already receive upwards of 2-300 spams in some of my email accounts DAILY! No, they are not common account names. Some ISP's do nothing, you should know. F**k our greedy, mindless governmental bodies. Email, for me, without establishing new accounts almost monthly, is just about useless, NOW. Meltdown is on the way and I say bring it on. Bring it all to a stand-still. Clog every pipe there is and raise my rates and I'll go back to raquetball. Also, am starting to change my thinking on DRM and Activation schemes. Good luck Adobe, MS, Quark, Intuit, et al. Watch me find alternatives.

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Get your own back[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 05:19:15 AM PDT

One thing I did notice (unless I misunderstood) was that spammers will be obliged to give truthful contact details. If this means that they will no longer be able to legally use false email return addresses then it should be possible to just bounce all the spam back to them (lots of times if you can spare the bandwidth) and cripple their mail servers. ...and although I would not advocate it, because we will know where the spam came from, I'm sure some resourceful souls will try DOS'ing them ! R.

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Get your own back[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#13)
by byelen on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 06:32:54 AM PDT

Do you really think that a spam operation running off-shore from the Bahamas, Amsterdam, or any other of a number of places will even care about the law? The only thing they'll gain by it, and providing a "working" feedback address to "opt out" is confirmation of which email addresses are "real".

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But it's not...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 07:40:02 AM PDT

Here in the UK, it's generally acknowledged that 90% of the spam comes from the USA.

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funny here in america all I get from the EU is ...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#28)
by psyduck on Tue Mar 23, 2004 at 11:57:58 AM PDT

funny here in america all I get from the EU is ...

SPAM.

And from Asia - viruses.

The solution to the problem is simply.

Till "WE", the few that understand technology, make it so unprofitable for these ISP to run "free" email accounts. The problem will not be fixed.

There are dozen of ways to do this legally. Suggestion number one: bounce three messages to the senders ISP's for every message recieved. NOT and I repeat, NOT, to the reply address. These three messages should be: 1) the message, 2) you systems warning that spam was recieved and 3) how the ISP can fix the problem. hint: use *nix system, mail scanner (with spam assassin), perl to scan log files and send the bounce mail out.

Lastly, tell me when the Goverment has ever fixed a problem?

Patrick J Matthews

P.S. I can tell the last time the people fixed a goverment issue - 1776



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When the legit address ain't...[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by Reziac on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 09:52:34 AM PDT

Okay, so you bounce back all the spam to that "legit" email address. And it's actually the email address of the poor sod whose machine got zombied and is now sending said spam without his knowledge. How is that going to hurt the spammer?

I just don't see how an industry that RELIES on deception is going to get any more truthful just because they're now semi-legalized, and that includes whether a spam includes a legit point-of-origin ID.
~REZ~
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you do not know the half of it[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 07:30:23 AM PDT

Much of this spam appears to be coming from overseas, but it is not.
MSN, Yahoo, and AOL are selling the use of their IPs to spammers to use. MSN got greedy recently and was going to start charging one spammer 5 Million/month instead of 1M/month. So the spammer approached another very large DSL company and was trying to cut a deal with them for 2M/month for all the bandwidth and use of customers IP address.

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Blame the ISPs[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 07:43:23 AM PDT

This is what I really don't understand. Why on earth do the ISPs and larger carriers allow the spammers, many of who are known by name (see spamhous for details), to connect to the net in the first place. The simple answer is that they get paid for it, but at the same time they complain massively about the bandwidth it soaks up and they (just like everyone else) spends countless time and money trying to keep the spam out !

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Has anyone bought anything from a spam?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 09:51:33 AM PDT

I don't know anyone who ever bought anything off a spam. My theory is that the spammers are really the same people who make the spam filters. First they created spam to create a need for filters and now they really make money by selling the spam filters... not from selling V!agra. What better business model can you create? Artificial demand created with no cost spam. It's an even better profit margin than the anti-virus makers get since the anti-virus makers have to actually hire programmers to write the viruses to artificially create demand for AV software. These guys are all the slickest con artists of all time. You don't even have to find little old ladies on social security to rip off. You can tap the deep pockets of the corporate world instead.

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The support of spammers[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 12:56:38 PM PDT

I think the real business that the spammers are in is selling advertizing. They don't care if it actually works or not, they get paid for sending it out.

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I have to READ the spam?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by psyxme on Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 01:25:07 PM PDT

This law requires me to read the spam carefully to ensure that I opt out correctly. I Don't Care to read the SUBJECTS LINES - I certainly do't want to have to read the actual body of the message OR visit the web site!!!

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They really aren't that stupid: just wrong.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 01:22:04 PM PDT

The "Can Spam" Act is just a continuation of a neo-liberal policy that has been applied ever more widely over the last thirty-odd years. It is simply that the government will do everything in its power to enlarge the operation of the market. This was why NASA abandoned one-time rockets for the Space Shuttle -- to give the private sector a new industrial opportunity. The revolution that turned U.S. health care on its head was similarly motivated and produced, at best, similarly mixed results. Now, we have a massively complex and expensive Medicare "reform" which makes little sense except as an effort to preserve and expand the role of the market in delivering prescription drugs. This ideological mindset -- and not stupidity -- is why the conservatives running Congress act like deer caught in the headlights when it come to controlling something as obviously pernicious, wasteful, and potentially destructive as spam. They believe that markets will save the nation; unfortunately, they are on their way to destroying the nation in order to save it.

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You betcha[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#24)
by Anonymous User on Tue Dec 02, 2003 at 04:05:12 PM PDT

Uh, sure.  You might want to do a little research on some of those points.  NASA, which does use plenty of one shot rockets, and a "rebuildable" (far from "reusable")Shuttle developed back in the '70s, has worked hard to keep commercial interests from taking over its turf.  It is a classic example of what happens when relying on government.  Medicare is a great example of government run health care, and its scope (and tax bite) is being massively expanded.  It is NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, being REDUCED or replaced by a market system.

As for spam, there is an obvious market approach:  Require spammers to pay for the resources they use.  If you use my internet resources without my permission for material I don't want, you should pay me to do so.  I should also be able to bill back to you my wasted time and the cost of any anti-spam tools or increased ISP costs you cause me.  After a few class action suits to recover ISP user costs, there would be a lot less spam.

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CAN SPAM[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#21)
by Anonymous User on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 02:31:09 PM PDT

I work for the Defense Department. DOD IT operators have had so much trouble fine tuning the filters, it has rendered time critical communications via e-mail between DOD principle offices and contractors unreliable. The fall back? The contractors are having to mail the DOD offices any large files via CD in the mail or, as is now ususal, FedEX. Who pays for the unitentional price of SPAM? The taxpayer.

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trouble?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
by Anonymous User on Tue Jan 13, 2004 at 04:09:44 PM PDT

Next generation bayesian filters are up to 99% effective. There are numerous free implementations. Free as in air.

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wfff[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#29)
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QB2003 Pro[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#30)
by Anonymous User on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 02:12:31 PM PDT

I haven't used QB2003 Pro but was thinking of the Peachtree for my accounting needs at IntimateAsian which is my new website.

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