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Attacks on Anti-spam Sites Show Unresponsiveness of Legal System

By Ed Foster, Section Gripes
Posted on Sat Oct 04, 2003 at 01:35:43 PM PDT

Ronald D. Edge, IS Manager and long-time anti-spam activist, contributes these thoughts about the recent demise of two anti-spam sites:

The past few weeks have seen the deaths of several major anti-spam DNSBL blocklists, of particular note, Joe Jared's osirusoft.com, and Ron Guilmette's monkeys.com open proxy abuse sources lists. In both cases, overwhelming, non-stop Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks rendered the sites inoperable. What is most disturbing, though, is the news reported by participants within the anti-spam community who have spoken with both Jared and Guilmette that, when contacted, not only have legal authorities failed to respond and take action, but in Guilmette's case, he could apparently not even get the authorities to understand what the problem was and take a report when he first contacted them.


Note that in both cases, Jared and Guilmette earn their livelihood through their ability to connect to and have an Internet presence. Their efforts on behalf of the anti-spam community were purely voluntary and a pro-bono donation of their time. Yet the DDoS attacks of course did not distinguish, and were of such magnitude that in order to save their businesses and livelihoods, both had to throw in the towel, and admit defeat.
Guilmette had obviously brought the wrath of the hardcore spammers down on himself by exposing the open proxy spam gangs' true locations, from which they were seeking out open proxies elsewhere and relaying their spam runs through them, and by naming the ISPs and providing detailed statistics on the abuse of open proxies by spam being committed from the home ISPs of the spammers. For about two months he had been publishing a more or less weekly 'Top 40' list of ISPs that were, after being informed by him of their presence, knowingly harboring nests of open proxy abusing spammers. Reportedly quite a few major spam gangs suddenly found themselves outed and ousted from the comfort of their home ISP. So he was clearly due an attack by these Internet criminals, and he got it.
What is appalling and inexplicable is the apparent failure of legal authorities to act and track down criminals who have clearly 'owned' literally 1,000's of machines across the Internet, and are using them in well-planned, coordinated, constant, and devastating attacks on the business web sites of American citizens. And the authorities seem simply not to care.
If similar actions were taken against traditional storefronts of brick and mortar, the authorities would be all over it in an instant. Is this just an extension of the fact that the legal system and the police structure have been incredibly slow to catch up with the pace of technology over the past decade? If ever there was a truism, that is one. There are repeated statements floating in the press and in online forums discussing these issues that the F.B.I. won't even show interest unless you can show $50,000.00 in damages up front. Does being basically forced off the Internet and thus unable to conduct business not count for something? Apparently not.
A very bright light needs to be shined on this abject failure of the legal authorities here in the United States to respond to legitimate complaints of criminal activity that has caused the individuals connectivity to the Net to be destroyed. There needs to be some explanation why Jared and Guilmette have been reportedly pretty much told to whistle Dixie, rather than action taken to pursue, identify, and prosecute what is obviously a large, coordinated, and well planned gang of perpetrators of criminal activity, willing to commit massive DDoS attacks targeting specific individuals and sites that go on not just for hours or days, but in the cases sited here, for MONTHS of unrelenting, 24 hour a day attack. Something is clearly not right in this picture.

Let me add one observation to Edge’s comments. A lot of attention has been paid to Congressional attempts to draft “tough” anti-spam laws, but this situation makes it clear just how futile such legislative efforts are likely to be. Laws already exist making denial-of-service attacks a crime, here and in most other countries. If law enforcement can’t be bothered in cases of concentrated criminal activity like this, what chance is there they will go after spammers for not honoring a do-not-spam list?

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Why is this a surprise?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Tue Oct 07, 2003 at 07:21:48 AM PDT

There needs to be some explanation why Jared and Guilmette have been reportedly pretty much told to whistle Dixie, rather than action taken to pursue, identify, and prosecute what is obviously a large, coordinated, and well planned gang of perpetrators of criminal activity, willing to commit massive DDoS attacks targeting specific individuals and sites that go on not just for hours or days, but in the cases sited here, for MONTHS of unrelenting, 24 hour a day attack. Something is clearly not right in this picture.

This guy must be new to America. Here's your explanation, pal: These anti-spam guys get no protection because they can't afford to purchase a congressman or a senator. Large corporations and the rich can and thus are above the law when they do bad things, and can get laws enforced when they stand to become richer for it and/or they can be hurt (financially or otherwise) by those who break them.

Average citizens are left to take the law into their own hands and hope they can mete out some justice without getting caught. In this case that would mean tracking down these DDoSers and disabling their machines somehow, which of course opens up the anti-spammers to all sorts of charges under the anti-hacking laws.

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Government Responsiveness[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Leigh on Wed Oct 08, 2003 at 08:47:54 PM PDT

Hmmph. I'm not surprised authorities failed to act or even understand... dictated by past experience whenever computer technology is involved. A complainant often faces a walled bureaucratic 'Denial of Knowledge'.

When a coordinated computerized 'terrorist attack' finally occurs against the government, CitiBank, the NYSE, or a major defense contractor, we will hear outrage from these same authorities. Or maybe not- Windows users are so inured to viruses, they might not notice the difference.

I have heard of citizens filing private criminal suits when prosecutors failed to act, although it would surely take deep pockets. Perhaps it's time for the IT community to form its own ACLU-type foundation, an organization to take on spammers, DoS instigators, privacy issues, security, the ITAA and H-1B visas, and- in their off hours- Larry Ellison.

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There already is an ACLU type org[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by Anonymous User on Thu Oct 09, 2003 at 12:19:00 PM PDT

Hi all,

There already is an ACLU type organization that takes on privacy issues and such, the EFF. Yah?

What I wonder is why these guys threw in the towel? These lists could have been distributed via downloads from CNET or sourceforge. Put them on the KaZaa network. Ditribute them across hundreds of Web/ftp site mirrors. Keep the anti spam warfare separate from their personal/professional lives.

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#19)
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Same as the lack of traffic law enforcement[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by Jace on Fri Oct 31, 2003 at 12:35:42 AM PDT

Speed Traps are not law enforcement. I'm talking about the DOZENS of vehicles that conduct illegal procedures EVERY time I travel from home to somewhere and there and back.

- Passing "slow" vehicles in no-passing areas (and by slow, I mean ME going 5mph ABOVE the posted speed limit). - Running stop signs (both "rolling stops" and blatent ignoring of the stop sign entirely). - Failing to obey right of way rules at intersections and yield zones. - Using a vehicle as a weapon of intimidation. - Driving on the wrong side of the road. - Running red lights (how many of those after the last second left turners can you count?) - Tailgating (another example where I, already exceeding the posted speed limit by 5MPH or more am intimidated and harassed by the drivers behind me who think I'm an impediment to their travel). - Rampant speeding by 90% of all drivers in all areas (again, speed traps are not law enforcement! They are tools to make money!)

And on and on. I could list a hundred offenses that are not just annoying and obnoxious but dangerous and criminal. Why do these things happen so often and without any punishment? They just aren't "big" enough. There is no money involved the the offenses. There is no death (unless the act leads to such). Etc.

Either law enforcement is so poorly funded that it has to be selective (and selective enforcement does nothing but hurt the law itself in the eyes of the people) or law enforcement agencies just don't care about "the small stuff." This example of the same kind of criminal behavior on the Internet going without punishment is no surprise to me at all. Something will have to change. We're on the road to anarchy. It so often feels that both the Internet and the roadways are already in such a state.
-Jace
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Atack on Anti-Spam sites[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous User on Tue Nov 11, 2003 at 01:58:33 PM PDT

I agree that our Government is bought and paid for with only a few exceptions (ie NYS AG Spitzer) it should also be noted that both lists are Star Chambers reeking of McCarthyism. On more than one occasion I have found legit email being blocked because the mail servers IP address is on the List.
They may mean well, but we still need some sort of due process.
BTW one server had been hijacked to relay spam, but besides from the intrusion they were punished for being a victim.

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Joe Jared's Many Legal Problems[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 12:25:41 PM PDT

Stephen Joseph Jared aka "Joe Jared", a self-proclaimed anarchist, has an NCIC Arrest Record and now has a lien recorded against him - filed by the California State Franchise Tax Board - County of Orange .. Docket # 2005-00843018 .. available on-line at the County Recorder's Office under "Grantor/Grantee" search - Filed 10-20-05. He admits that he was not taking his psychiatric meds at the time (for Bipolar Illness) and was self-medicating with Alcohol & Drugs. He allegedly became sober sometime around 2004, entering Alcoholics Anonymous. He's currently paying off $30K in legal defense fees (begging on-line for others to contribute to his "cause"), & had to move to Ohio in summer 2006 because he could no longer even afford to rent the house he was living at in California, due to all the debt. (He was evicted from the previous apartment, where he started his anti-spamming blacklists). Yet, he STILL has an attitude problem, after all that. Why hasn't he said anything about Pallorium's appeal, filed 09-30-05, nearly a year ago? Rambam seems to have lost interest as well. Rambam probably knows Jared is broke. Maybe Rambam is the one who contacted the Tax Man. Who knows?

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Pallorium fights Stephen Joe Jared Osirusoft 2006[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 09:05:52 PM PDT

Pallorium, Inc. v. Stephen Jared [Osirusoft] Ohio October 13, 2006 Appeal in Santa Ana, California [DOC] Fourth Appellate District, Division ThreeFile Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML G036124 Pallorium, Inc. v. Stephen Jared. www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/calendars/documents/GCALOCT06.DOC ... (City of Santa Ana, CA)

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yes[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#20)
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Osirusoft NO BUSINESS LICENSE Joe Jared CA[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 05:39:36 PM PDT

Joe Jared NO BUSINESS LICENSE OSIRUSOFT in CA... The MAN who BLACKLISTED THE WORLD in 2003 has been operating without a Business License in 2005/2006 in Orange County, California. Visit OCGOV.com Clerk-Recorders Office County of Orange - Fictitious Business Names Jared, Stephen Osirusoft Research & Engineering Registration # 20006825551 03-10-2000 to 03-10-2005 [EXPIRED] TAX LIEN ATTACHED ON 10-20-05 Visit OCGOV.com Clerk-Recorders Office County of Orange - Grantor / Grantee Search Jared, Stephen J.

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OCTOBER 2006 PALLORIUM VS. JOE JARED APPEAL[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous User on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 10:39:38 PM PDT

October 13, 2006 - APPEAL Fourth Appellate District, Division Three 925 N. Spurgeon Street Santa Ana, California 92701 (714) 558-6777 September 8, 2006 The following matters have been ordered on calendar, to be heard in the courtroom of this court, located at 925 N. Spurgeon Street, Santa Ana, California for the time and date so indicated. If you intend to argue any authorities not cited in your brief, you must so advise the court in writing and all other parties before oral argument. All counsel must check in no later than 9:00 a.m. for the morning calendar and no later than 1:00 p.m. for the afternoon calendar. The calendars will be called at 9:30 a.m. for the morning and 1:30 p.m. for the afternoon. FRIDAY, OCTOBER 13, 2006 at 9:00 a.m. G036124 Pallorium, Inc. v. Stephen Jared

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Joe Jared Update 2008 Bellefontaine, Ohio[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous User on Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 06:50:28 PM PDT

OCGOV.COM currently lists 3 TAX LIENS under Joe Jared's legal name of Stephen Joseph Jared, Social Security Number 550-45-8***. The tax years/amounts are as follows: 2003- $10,895.56 / 2004- $5,148.08 / 2005- $ 6,641.91. A grand total of $ 22,685.55 owed out of the State of California. He moved to Columbus,Ohio in 2006, less than a year after the first lien was issued. The second lien lists his Columbus, Ohio address. The third lien lists his current address of: 401 E. Patterson Ave., Bellefontaine, OH. No word whether he obtained business licenses after he failed to renew the one that expired in California. OCGOV.COM currently lists Joe Jared's previous criminal record. He's been on probation for the past three years. See Superior Court- Criminal Case 04CM10349 - Guilty of Inflicting Corporal Injury on Spouse. Domestic Violence. Violation Date 12-28-2004. His other cases can be viewed under "Superior Court" - Criminal, Family, or Civil. "Jared, Stephen J."

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by msa6el on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 02:50:28 PM PDT

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