INFOWORLD GRIPE LINE BY ED FOSTER Bookmark this page

 
Display: Sort:
Bill Gates and PC history | 27 comments (27 topical) | Post A Comment
What about Gary Kildall?[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#16)
by rodak on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 11:00:26 AM PDT

I think he should at least be awarded "Honorable Mention" for Bill Gates' success.  At least, the way I heard it, IBM approached Gary first about using CP/M as an OS for the PC, and he ignored them, so they went to talk to Bill.  I wonder how different the computer industry might be today if Gary had said "ok".

[ Reply to This ]


Not necessarily any better[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous User on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:36:49 PM PDT

Gary Kildall was no saint, so we all would have been swearing at Gary instead of Bill. Actually there already was plenty of swearing at Gary by CP/M users at the time. And it was easier to port CP/M-80 applications to MS-DOS than it was to CP/M-86, so it probably would have slowed the adaptation of the IBM PC. On the other hand, that might have encouraged the adoption of Macs!

[ Parent | Reply to This ]


Ed's wrong -- Not OS/2, but Mac OS[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#22)
by Anonymous User on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 12:54:56 PM PDT

And that brings us to Ed's point: "This of course ignores the fact that the graphics interface Microsoft was telling its competitors to use was OS/2, long after it had committed to Windows."

But if you give Gates the benefit of the doubt, what he actually seems to be referring to was not OS/2, but the original Apple Mac OS. There's this famous memo that Bill Gates wrote in 1985 to Bill Sculley at Apple, suggesting that they open up the OS to other OEMs to make it an industry standard. Apple, of course, decided to stick with its "One true computer company to rule them all" paradigm, and the rest is history.

In 1985, Windows 1.0 was floundering (came out a year late -- so what else is new), and Microsoft was really ramping up its Mac development efforts. Remember that Word and Excel were originally Mac products, and didn't get ported to Windows until after Windows 2.0. Bill Gates is right -- history could've been totally different.

If Apple had listened to him back in 1985, then Microsoft would be a pure-applications company today, with negligible OS market share. And Apple would have 95% of the market for OSes, with negligible hardware sales. Motorola would rule the roost with all the PowerPC Mac clones, and Intel would be a niche chip company. And Slashdotters would be saying things like "Apple suxx0r! Leopard sucks compared to Linux!" because it'd be crashing all the time as it attempted to cope with hundreds of OEMs and gazillions of hardware conflicts and poor drivers. Makes you think about these pivotal moments in history, doesn't it?



[ Parent | Reply to This ]


Wilcox foxtrot tango?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#25)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:12:30 PM PDT

And Slashdotters would be saying things like "Apple suxx0r! Leopard sucks compared to Linux!" because it'd be crashing all the time as it attempted to cope with hundreds of OEMs and gazillions of hardware conflicts and poor drivers.

The last time I checked, Linux also runs on or has support for a lot of hardware from hundreds of OEMs. If Linux can do so without crashing all the time, then so could MacOS and so could Windoze if their vendors really tried.


[ Parent | Reply to This ]



Hardware support matrix[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#26)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jul 14, 2008 at 02:56:16 PM PDT

Linux supports lots of hardware, but not always fully. An audio driver may have stereo but not 5.1 surround. A video driver may only partially accelerate. I'm sure Apple and Microsoft could achieve the same thing if they had to. But neither does, because they aren't willing to live with the limitations. They go to opposite extremes with this -- Apple supports a very limited set of hardware, and Microsoft pushes most of the hardware support onto the hardware makers. Oops, I meant Linsuxxx, not Linux. Appl$, not Apple. And, of course, as you wrote, Windoze, instead of Windows. Phew. Glad that's out of the way.

[ Parent | Reply to This ]


Re: FUD[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#27)
by Anonymous User on Mon Jul 14, 2008 at 05:20:59 PM PDT

Nice FUD you have there. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it, like, say, if I were to debunk it.

cough*Ubuntu*cough*lots of hardware supported fully*coughahem

[ Parent | Reply to This ]



Bill Gates and PC history | 27 comments (27 topical) | Post A Comment
Display: Sort:

Menu
· create account
· faq
· search

Login
Make a new account
Username:
Password:

 HOME  NEWS  COLUMNS  BLOGS  PODCASTS  TECHNOLOGIES  TEST CENTER  EVENTS  CAREERS  IT EXEC-CONNECT   About Awards Contact Us 

Copyright © 2006, Reprints, Permissions, Licensing, IDG Network, Privacy Policy.
All Rights reserved. InfoWorld is a leading publisher of technology information and product reviews on topics including viruses,
phishing, worms, firewalls, security, servers, storage, networking, wireless, databases, and web services.

ComputerWorld :: LinuxWorld :: Network World :: CIO :: PC World :: Darwin :: CMO :: CSO
IT Careers :: JavaWorld :: Macworld :: Mac Central :: Playlist :: GamePro :: GameStar :: Gamerhelp
ITWorld Canada :: Computerwoche :: Techworld UK :: tecChannel :: IDG.se :: IDG.no :: IDG.pl

create account | faq | search