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by Anonymous User on Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 09:45:58 AM PDT

I don't know enough about this case to comment on it. However, I will say that if the ACLU is on one side of the argument, there is a pretty good chance that the other side is where I want to be. The ACLU has championed so many dubious causes and taken so many outrageous positions that I trust them even less than I do the Justice Department.

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by bc9424 on Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 10:02:57 AM PDT

Nice to know. Why not just let this Administration finish shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights??? Ed, thanks for the post. I'm glad at least Google had the spine to stand up--I hope they keep it up.

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by Anonymous User on Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 10:12:16 AM PDT

Obviously, you don't know anything about the case either.

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Distrusting the ACLU[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 10:42:04 AM PDT

It is difficult to fathom that so many people fail to grasp the fundamental idea of protecting our Constitutional rights when those rights are exercised by those with whom we disagree. "The ACLU has championed so many dubious causes and taken so many outrageous positions..." "Dubious" and "outrageous" apparently translate to "I disagree." "...that I trust them even less than I do the Justice Department." I trust them to try to protect my free speech rights. I even trust them to defend your free speech rights, even though I disagree with you. That's what they do. That's all they do. Why is that so hard to grasp?

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Re: Distrusting the ACLU[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous User on Sat Jan 21, 2006 at 10:45:59 AM PDT

In my naive youth, I was a supporter of the ACLU because I believed they were the watchdog of the Bill of Rights. I joined the organization, went to local chapter meetings, served on committees, eventually became a board member and finally an officer. Over time, I saw their true colors. At one annual fundraising banquet, the director of the state chapter was the scheduled guest speaker. A conservative co-worker challenged me to ask the director his opinion of the 2nd Amendment. So I did, and to my astonishment he told me THAT amendment had been useful during pioneer times, but was no longer relevant or needed. I realized the ACLU does NOT defend the Constitution; it picks and chooses the Amendments it likes and disdains the ones it doesn't. That was 30 years ago. Their more recent rush to defend terrorists and pedophiles only confirm that they have moved even more to the left than I thought possible.

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Who are you?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by dmittleman on Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 10:45:52 AM PDT

The ACLU would work pretty hard to protect your right to maintain anonymity for the comment you just made.

Nice to see you chose anonymity, but you will side with the people who will work to identify you.

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You give them too much credit.[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#32)
by foxyshadis1 on Mon Jan 23, 2006 at 08:06:35 PM PDT

Actually, the biggest defenders of the internet culture in courts have always been ISPs, with EFF, ACLU, and universities occasionally giving support and occasionally snubbing them. ISPs and/or websites themselves tend to bear many of the costs of defence of free, anonymous speech online.

They also rarely champion rights they aren't interested in, such as the consumer protection issues this blog focuses on. If the ACLU actually cared as much about defending against big business as big brother, we might not have so many anti-consumer laws bought and flagrant violations of others.

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